2012-07-01, 10:49 | Link #1041 |
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That is true, but I don't know whether that's due to Kamachi losing interest in her as a character or he just doesn't know how to use her outside of the romance plot with Kamijou, although I should mention that NT3 was a strong return to form for her as you alluded to, so maybe NT5 will be similar.
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2012-07-01, 11:24 | Link #1042 | |
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If you mean main characters yeah, but when it comes to MAIN PROTAGONISTS they are:
- Touma Kamijou. - Accelerator. - Shiage Hamazura. Yeah, the last guy will have a more important role in the series and have a big involvement in the deep darkness of the Science Side. Quote:
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2012-07-01, 12:36 | Link #1044 | |
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But Misaka has the popularity, although it doesn't mean shes as important as Index. You can take Misaka's existence out of the series and it would still be able to hold together(although it would still be pretty fucked up on part of the science side because of Aliester's plan with the sisters and Accelerator would probably not be where he is) However if you take Index out, shit freaking crumbles. Touma just continues his life as a Level 0 Esper.
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2012-07-01, 17:15 | Link #1047 |
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Although it makes sense, but sometimes I think Kamachi worry about the popularity of Mikoto and perhaps unintentionally belittling it ends. I felt this when I read volumes 1 and 2 of the NT, that although she has amazing abilities, it's not irreplaceable or really special.
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2012-07-01, 22:13 | Link #1048 | |
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It's the curse of popularity, there has been demand for more Mikoto every year even when she was at the center stage. Mikoto can't be the star every time but due to her popularity she will be brought up whenever possible because fans want more Mikoto - espeially her interactions with Touma. Letting her sit on the sidelines every once and awhile is good since it prevents her from being too overused, thus making people hate her, and it will make her return to the spotlight all the greater and help spur a surge in sales.
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Making another level 5 Esper that's a electromaster isn't the same as Mikoto. That's like saying you can replace Touma with just another Level 0 Esper or Index with another loli, it just wouldn't work and the series wouldn't be what it is today without those 3. |
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2012-07-01, 22:27 | Link #1050 |
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Well not everyone can be in the darkness and a lot of characters have made it their mission to keep her out of the darkness. Even Touma does and he promised to protect her and the world around her, letting her learn the truth about the darkness of Academy City, magic, ect and what's really happening in the world at large would shatter her "world" as she knows it. Which sorta explains why Touma refused to tell Mikoto the truth about the pole, and was very clear when he was trying to protect her which lead to her getting the wrong idea that he was trying to be romantic/overprotective, when he was after you know who since he didn't want her to know about magic. Or why the Aztec dude wants to protect Mikoto, even though he can't be with her, and does it from the shadows without her knowledge on what's really going on.
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2012-07-01, 23:15 | Link #1051 | |
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Even though we wouldn't have Misaka we would still have Volume 1 Volume 2 maybe Volume 3 Volume 4 Volume 5(some) Volume 6 Volume 7 Volume 9 & 10 Volume 11 maybe half of Volume 13 Covering the anime Now without Index we would just have Volume 3, 5, 8 and half of 13 Because Touma has been only involved in those incidents because Necessarious will take Index away if Touma doesn't do what they say.
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2012-07-01, 23:19 | Link #1052 |
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No she is just as important as Index. Without Touma, Index, and Mikoto there would be no Index series. They're all needed, without one than Index wouldn't be what it is today and would have ended a long time ago. Especially since Mikoto and Mikoto x Touma has a huge popular following that no other character or pairing comes close to reaching(Other than Touma and Index at that time) unless you count Accelerator/Last Order and they can't exist without Mikoto either. You can't replace any of them with just a generic level 5(We have seen enough already, none can fill the shoes of Mikoto), level 0(We have plenty already, none can fill the shoes of Touma), or loli(We have more than enough Loli's, none can fill the shoes of Index). They're all too important to the Index verse and too many things rely on them simply existing and the actions they take which causes a ripple effect to another event which leads to another.
You also failed to mention that all the characters that rely on Mikoto wouldn't exist if she was cut thus all their stories and the character introduced in their stories wouldn't exist either thus there are a lot more volumes that would be cut than the ones you metioned(If it even goes that far missing such a major and important character). Just like how without Index there would be very little, other than happenstance, to get Touma brought into the magic side of the world or the many plots and characters that rely on Index bringing Touma into that side of the world or her simply existing. It isn't just a simple "Hey, just remove her from the story. It only effects things about her", when in fact it's "Hey, if we remove her than we would have to not only remove her stories and all references to her but all the characters and stories that rely on her stories and her existing". It's a ripple effect. Touma, Index, and Mikoto are Rome, all roads will eventually lead back to them. They're that important to the story, without them many things wouldn't be possible and Index wouldn't have come as far as it has without them. Than there are the games that rely heavily on Touma, Index, and Mikoto.... Last edited by Destined_Fate; 2012-07-01 at 23:32. |
2012-07-01, 23:40 | Link #1053 |
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I don't think that's what Kenju of the Right is trying to get at. Even if Mikoto is gone, the Index series wouldn't be as heavily affected as say if Index herself was gone. Sure there would definitely be some notable things missing but in terms of sheer impact to the plot, Index holds the greater cake here.
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2012-07-01, 23:41 | Link #1054 | |
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2012-07-01, 23:43 | Link #1055 |
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I'd like to think that the world in the toaru series is extensive enough so that anyone can become a 'protagonist'. I mean, the story doesn't really revolve around these characters. More like, each character has their own perspective on what's happening.
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2012-07-02, 01:42 | Link #1059 | |
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What spoilers exactly? -.- Geeze, everything being discuessed is in the anime and all references to the Manga/LN are purposely being kept vague so that you aren't being spoiled. I'm starting to wonder if you've read the posts or are just screaming spoilers for the sake of it.
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Without Index the magic side would be lost and without Mikoto the scient side would be lost. Touma can only do so much with either side without Index or Mikoto helping to bridge that side over so that he can cross over to it. |
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2012-07-02, 02:41 | Link #1060 | |
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The way this discussion is going I think would fit better in Mikoto's character thread or the light novel thread. |
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