2013-08-30, 17:09 | Link #1064 |
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Agreed. I dropped bleach but ti still bothers me that it should had stayed anime ghostbusters as opposed to being that shonen. Kubo didn't have to focus on every Soul Society and cahracters at the cost of the core (Renji, Chao, Orihime and Uryuu) cast but it is a Japanese manga for Japanese fans so I cannot judge it. The Japanese Bleach fans really like the Soul Society characters so they get more focus.
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2013-11-06, 14:45 | Link #1065 |
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I think one big problem is that Kubo is afraid of focusing on human relationships. I mean the death of Ichigo's mother could have been worse if we had actually seen her talking with Isshin. I think the only reason we had that flashback was to explain Ichigo's true zanpakuto was the hollow. Ichigo and Rukia had a strong bond early in the series but now the friendzone is super strong. Ichigo's current comrades are shinigamis he barely talks to.
While I know many complain the female characters have it really bad I think Hitman Reborn treated them far worse. (no, seriously, try liking a female character there) |
2013-11-08, 17:09 | Link #1066 | |
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Ichigo, Renji, Orohime, Rukia, Chad, Uryuu = Young Justice that takes care of lower to mid level threats Gotei 13 = Justice League that takes care of bigger threats |
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2013-11-10, 21:51 | Link #1068 |
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I don't read too much shonen manga....but I swear to god that this is the only series that I've read that the mangaka continues to crap on EVERYONE in the cast just to amp up certain characters. And the only series in which the creator pretty much throws the main cast aside to focus more on the supporting cast.
I wish SJ would just cancel this already.
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2013-12-18, 22:53 | Link #1071 | |
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Ichigo is the 3rd worst protag that I have read in shonen. I did have a discussion with 2 other people before about this one of them is very much in fanboyism with the Ichigo character unfortunately.
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Deal with menos like gillians to adjuchas level. While the captains deal with vastro lorde level threats. I have thguht of this since after the ss arc. Good to know I'm not the only one.
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Agreed. Btw aren't you the same person on that other forum? One that shall not be named?
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2015-11-07, 23:23 | Link #1076 |
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Whatever Happened to Bleach?:
"Bleach, on the other hand, is a full-blown has-been, a shell of its former self that subsists on the memory of its glory days. It is well past its expiration date, yet it continues to grind on, sluggishly approaching its conclusion on a seemingly parabolic trajectory. The manga's volume sales have dwindled, the anime was cancelled several years ago, and many former fans have just flat-out given up on it. How did things come to this?" See: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feat...-bleach/.95031 The article contains an interesting analysis of what went wrong with this series. |
2015-11-09, 22:49 | Link #1077 |
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^that's a pretty harsh article. I agree with it but it's kind of depressing lol. They could have at least mentioned the Isshin flashback or some of the random good parts in this current arc. They also ignored the TBTP arc when discussing the arrancar saga.
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2015-11-10, 10:31 | Link #1078 |
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I am probably the only one who stopped reading and watching Bleach as I got annoyed with Ichigo. To me he's the most boring one of all others. Just spam him with defeat-training-super power up each time like a typical, boring shonen manga. Make him as if he's trying hard to appear cool all the time. All the mary-sue elements as well.
i have only read the few chapters again recently as Ichigo and his gang are not the current main focus. Yay for nanao and shunsui.
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2015-11-10, 12:59 | Link #1080 |
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I actually really enjoyed the original cast of Ichigo, Ishida, Inoue and Chad, even in their school life time. Ichigo was intriguing because, unlike so (sooooo) many other protagonists, he's not a complete idiot who acts first and thinks later, he doesn't have a huge dream or any kind of great responsibility (like becoming #1 in his world, the boss of an organization, god, etc.) and almost all of his fights were to save one of his friends (Rukia, Orihime, Chad and now Ishida). While it's true that they've done next to nothing, Orihime is a very weak character, so it wasn't surprising that she did nothing against Aizen. Chad's arc was a true disappointment though... (remember back before HM when Ichigo blocked his direct and Chad was all "you can't ignore me nao!" well, GG)
IMO BLEACH stopped being as good as it used to be when the HM arc kicked off - the whole vizard story gave the finger to the previously established power levels, just in order to make the arrancar look stronger by comparison. One of my favorite fights of that arc was Kira vs Abirama Redder. They were both relatively weak, but it felt true to the mood of a war, with Kira mercilessly beheading his opponent while establishing his own character at the same time. As for the current arc...the quincy are all boring as shit. Zero division was okay (just okay), Ichigo's new powers raise a whole ton of questions, even while answering some that people have had for a long time, and the biggest flop of the arc is the Soul King entity: doesn't talk, doesn't quite live, doesn't think...shouldn't exist. |
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