(L) Strike The Blood (ストライク・ザ・ブラッド) [Light Novel]

[haseo0408]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Vatler's a pure blood 'descendant' of the First Progenitor.

Then thast crazy bastard Vatler is actually the son of the Forgotten War Lord!? You got to be kidding me! If Kojou decides to kill off the bastard to get rid of him the first Progenitor will be his eternal enemy.

Well good news for Yukina, she can be with Kojou and considering he´s a Progenitor it´s extremely difficult she can be kill indirectly.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by haseo0408

Then thast crazy bastard Vatler is actually the son of the Forgotten War Lord!? You got to be kidding me! If Kojou decides to kill off the bastard to get rid of him the first Progenitor will be his eternal enemy.

Well good news for Yukina, she can be with Kojou and considering he´s a Progenitor it´s extremely difficult she can be kill indirectly.

Just re-read the terminology. There's basically two ways to make a genuine vampire. One is if you are the pure blood descendant of one(unless your parent is a progenitor). The other way is if the progenitor decides you are worthy enough and 'shares his blood' with you and make you his 'descendant'. That method isn't quite explained and seems to contradict the author's statement that you cannot make a human a genuine vampire which was repeatedly stressed.It's not clear which method led to the creation of Vatler.

Also, Vatler may not be the son of the Forgotten War Lord, just one of his descendants(e.g. great grandson).

[haseo0408]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Just re-read the terminology. There's basically two ways to make a genuine vampire. One is if you are the pure blood descendant of one(unless your parent is a progenitor). The other way is if the progenitor decides you are worthy enough and 'shares his blood' with you and make you his 'descendant'. That method isn't quite explained.It's not clear which method led to the creation of Vatler.

Also, Vatler may not be the son of the Forgotten War Lord, just one of his descendants(e.g. great grandson).

So the condition of vampire is inherited by their descendants, so Vatler might be son, grandson or so on. Really ineresting, thank you Moe-san; following this logic Astarte is a Blood Folower of Kojou, right?.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by haseo0408

So the condition of vampire is inherited by their descendants, so Vatler might be son, grandson or so on. Really ineresting, thank you Moe-san; following this logic Astarte is a Blood Folower of Kojou, right?.

Pretty much. Astarte isn't a Blood Follower. If she is one, she would be more OP than now. Blood followers(Blood servants more correctly) 'inherit' some of the skills of their masters.She would be OP as if she were to inherit the skill of the Fourth Progenitor.

[Ougon]

Originally Posted by "Ougon no Kemono

Could elaborate on the whole vampire system? What's the difference between a blood servant and becoming a full-fledged vampire? Requirements?

Blood servant/Blood relative refers to someone who became vampire through the blood of a parent vampire.

The strongest type of blood relatives are second generation vampires who received blood directly from a Shinso.

Normal vampires are descendants of blood relatives.

So yeah, Blood servants are classified as vampires too.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Ougon no Kemono

So yeah, Blood servants are classified as vampires too.

But Kojou explicitly says that Blood Servants are pseudo-vampires, fake vampires. He says that they are technically 'still human'.

Spoiler for vol 8:

He was classified as a Blood Servant too even though he received a bone implantation from Avrora.

[Ougon]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

But Kojou explicitly says that Blood Servants are pseudo-vampires, fake vampires.

Spoiler for vol 8:

He's classified as a Blood Servant too even though he received a bone implantation from Avrora.

"Wiseman" are the most power vampires, only surpassed by Shinsos.

"Wiseman" refers to a blood servant who received blood directly from a Shinso.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Ougon no Kemono

"Wiseman" are the most power vampires, only surpassed by Shinsos.

"Wiseman" refers to a blood servant who received blood directly from a Shinso.

Problem is that Kojou never referred himself as a

Spoiler for vol 8:

Wiseman when he received a bone from Avrora, neither was the arms dealer who received a bone from No.1. They referred to themselves as blood followers.

And that Kojou always feared that Yukina would turn into a blood follower(pseudo-vampire), not a Wiseman(which are classified as genuine vampires) whenever he bites her (which carries the possibility of him transmitting his blood into her).And no, it's not necessarily the use of blood. Implantation of any body part of a vampire can turn one into a human into a blood follower.

[Ougon]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Problem is that Kojou never referred himself as a

Spoiler for vol 8:

Wiseman when he received a bone from Avrora, neither was the arms dealer who received a bone from No.1. They referred to themselves as blood followers.

And that Kojou always feared that Yukina would turn into a blood follower(pseudo-vampire), not a Wiseman(which are classified as genuine vampires) whenever he bites her (which carries the possibility of him transmitting his blood into her).And no, it's not necessarily the use of blood. Implantation of any body part of a vampire can turn one into a human into a blood follower.

Your actually implying I said something contrary..

The more common noun known for "Wiseman" is "Second Generation Vampire".

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Ougon no Kemono

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Your actually implying I said something contrary..

The more common noun known for "Wiseman" is "Second Generation Vampire".

Sorry if you didn't mean it, but I thought you were trying to correct me by saying that

Spoiler for vol 8:

Kojou never became a Wiseman because Avrora donated her bone, not her blood.

[ryanstrike]

So far, does La Folia appear?

[BW95]

Thanks for the update, Ougon no Kemono!

[haseo0408]

There is an ilustration in volume 7. I think that´s the Night Lord of Blazing Light arc, where Vatler is fighting a girl but he has this unsual expresion in his face, if I didn´t know better I say he´s scared. Who the hell is that girl? There´s only three people that I think could actually sacre that crazy bastard.

[Yye1]

I cant wait to read the rest of volume 7

[BW95]

Originally Posted by haseo0408

There is an ilustration in volume 7. I think that´s the Night Lord of Blazing Light arc, where Vatler is fighting a girl but he has this unsual expresion in his face, if I didn´t know better I say he´s scared. Who the hell is that girl? There´s only three people that I think could actually sacre that crazy bastard.

Jada aka Chaos Bride.

[haseo0408]

Originally Posted by BW95

Jada aka Chaos Bride.

That´s the Third Progenitor!? No wonder he looks scared, from what I heard she kick his isane ass without breaking a sweat.

[BW95]

Originally Posted by haseo0408

That´s the Third Progenitor!? No wonder he looks scared, from what I heard she kick his isane ass without breaking a sweat.

I think she just sealed him, but that was the moment where he realized that being the closest thing to a primogenitor didn't mean squat when facing the real thing.

[haseo0408]

Originally Posted by BW95

I think she just sealed him, but that was the moment where he realized that being the closest thing to a primogenitor didn't mean squat when facing the real thing.

Watching his miseral face of deafeat is going to be one of my favorite of volume 7 and even more so if the series gets a second season in the future.

[Ougon]

Speaking of the third, do you guys prefer Jada or Giada for her name. (Both are pronounced the same way)

[haseo0408]

Originally Posted by Ougon no Kemono

Speaking of the third, do you guys prefer Jada or Giada for her name. (Both are pronounced the same way)

I prefer Jada, sounds just right for her. Speaking her, she´s the ruler of America, right?.