2012-03-09, 08:43 | Link #1101 | |
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Moving out of town is no small feat either, especially in 90's Japan when the economy is fairly weak. Most people wouldn't be able to afford it and would have trouble finding a new job. And we shouldn't forget that while the deaths seem very close to us, because we know all those people, it's probably not as close to the whole population of Yomiyama. How many people have died during the last year in your town? I assume more than 10 or 20. And probably some percentage of that will have been accidents, murder, suicide, illness in young age...in a town which has probably at least 5000 fixed inhabitants ~20 deaths per year are nothing too strange. Would you petition for a school to close down because you heard that the brother of a student in the class that your child could maybe attend in 3 years died under mysterious circumstances 5 years ago? |
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2012-03-09, 11:49 | Link #1102 | |
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Well maybe japan wouldn't but both Germany and Austria would definitely close said school for at least 3 weeks if a student died on school grounds. I still remember our school having a black flag hanging over it for at least a week when a student died(at home) due to CO2 poisoning. I can very much imagine how they would close a school if things like this would coincidentally happen within a few months over several years. Another option would be indeed shutting down the class and increasing the size of other classes at the same time. I do however live in the capital so its easier for me to imagine possible solutions.
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2012-03-09, 12:43 | Link #1103 | ||
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Maybe it would also depend who that student was. I think it really depends on what kind of case it was, but the only time schools were actually closed were cases when a student went on a rampage and killed several people...but that is because there would be several traumatized victims and maybe even the danger of copycats. Quote:
Additionaly, yes, we are talking about a smalltown that seems to have only 2 middle schools...closing one of them down is a serious deal. |
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2012-03-09, 13:09 | Link #1104 | |
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Even if its just for the sake of not creating a political issue. And no, classes with 75 students are out of question (college and University excluded) When i was in high school the targeted class size was a maximum of 30 students, increased by a few if absolutely necessary. My idea of how they would do it is actually distributing the students around all available classes in available schools in an acceptable distance. Or opening up new classes in other schools combined with above. But yes,, ccompletely shutting down a school is almost impossible nowadays. Shutting down a single class though (namely 3-3) though is a lot easier. especially since the students can return after the end of the year.
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2012-03-09, 14:38 | Link #1105 | ||
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The novel might be a lot clearer on how inconsistent the phenomenon is but the anime as well has at least hinted that there are years when nothing happens at all, years when the countermeassures apparently worked and years when it happened late because the countermeassures were wrong. Spoiler for phenomenon progress:
Out of 26 years we only have about 10 years where apparently something happened, that is less than a 50/50 percentage. So there's no concrete point on which you could argue for a local schoolsystem to be restructured so heavily. Even if there were a little over a hundred deaths in the last 26 years, as we have seen already there is a high probability that at least 50% of them (if nor more were relatives). While that might appear strange, it is not a logical argument to say, "My brother died in a car crash, close down this school or more people will die!". Quote:
And shutting down only the 3-3 just won't work I'm afraid, because it was already established that renaming or relocating doesn't work...and in that case the next higher class would simply be the "3rd class in the 3rd year of middle school". |
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2012-03-09, 18:20 | Link #1106 |
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I guess that's why the class is still there. I had initially thought about just skipping the counting from 3-3 to straight to 3-4 but that was when I forgot that renaming/relocating was already stated not to have worked. So many facts and clues, I need to reorganize them into a book or something.
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2012-03-09, 18:34 | Link #1107 | |
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Splitting the class and never opening 3- 3 is an entirely different thing though. (I also think relocating refered to it being relocated to another room)
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2012-03-09, 20:58 | Link #1108 |
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Yes, but not having that class would require there to be also no class that is above in numeration to 3-3, or simply there could only be 3 classes. But as was discussed quite often there are 3-1 to 3-5 and not opening the 3-3 would simply make the 3-4 into the 3rd class in the 3rd year of middle school. You could basically call the place "happy-time-never-die-fun-land" and it wouldn't change what it is.
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2012-03-09, 21:16 | Link #1109 | |
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The calamity is bound to class 3-3; if you can actively skip that class by trick X it would no longer be 3-3. maybe there is a misunderstanding about my 'plan' 3-3 --> distributed over other schools and classes; No class 3-3 in affected school Term ends Distributed students come back after having passed the class elsewhere, now being put in 3-4 So no renaming of classes or changing locations.
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2012-03-09, 21:40 | Link #1110 |
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Or they can simply finish the current 3-3 class, then newly registered students are enrolled into all other classes, leaving class 3-3 still there but empty. If the class still exists, just without occupants, shouldn't the curse be avoided?
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2012-03-09, 22:17 | Link #1111 | |
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Also the 3rd year is the last year of middle school, after that they go to high school and for the entry applications it's pretty important how and how good you finished your education so far. Something radical like changing school has to be explained and "there is a curse" is not actually a good idea. The children talk about it as well. They want to get it behind them and just graduate from middle school and attend a good high school. The question here is again, is an empty class actually a class? Just by calling it differently, does it change reality?! Calling an empty class room "class 3-3" doesn't make it the 3rd class in the 3rd year of middle school...it's simply the one make belief class that they chose to call 3-3. |
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2012-03-10, 00:58 | Link #1113 |
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Okay, then that makes a big difference. Pretty much unavoidable then, I suppose. For some reason, it got stuck in my head that the calamity is bound to the actual classroom. >_<
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2012-03-10, 06:07 | Link #1114 |
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From official site
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And so, after the events of Ep10, it's clear why its kanji title is "Pitch Black".
Meanwhile, the title of the next episode, 惨劇, literally means "tragedy". I think it's hard not to see why. |
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2012-03-13, 12:04 | Link #1120 |
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sa547, you should change image host since imagebucket is giving a "too many views" kind of message. Please switch to imgur or something, otherwise the charts will disappear after a few days. You need to repost episode 9's chart either because I didn't save a copy of it. Thanks.
So I assume that ep.10's chart is just gonna be the same of episode 9, as we don't know for sure who died at the end. I thought that we'd need to change the relation between Misaki and Fujioka, from cousins to twins, but I see that no mention of it was made in the chart to begin with. This week I'll also include haguruma's class roster. I would have preferred a slightly different version (or at least having both versions, the registry order and the seats order), but if not possible the provided one is ok, and doesn't need changes from ep.9 to ep.10 either since for us anime watchers the person who has died is episode 10 is still uncertain.
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