2008-03-02, 07:39 | Link #1102 |
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Accurate im not sure, but there are some similarity of his/her pairings. In gundum-verse i can see how Sniper concluded these pairings, and ive tried some brain storming to contradict some, but i couldnt think of anything that would stand out better.
Your always going to get someone trying to find character relation from previous series, this has been happening since i was an early teenager. (aprox 11-12 years ago) An good example is setsuna from Gundum00.. already people have compared him to Hero the main character of Gundum wing. But like anything else not everyone would agree with someone elses pairing.. |
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This is becoming off topic... Its hard to say.. Cliche characters have already been done and used and killed to death. Some style of characters emos,angst have been ovely used in the past decade. Sure it doesnt help that Gundam specificly UC have been around in the early days of anime that one could easily say that x show copied y show and mixed in z characters to make a xyz result. Unfortunatly especially for older generation of viewers thay may see a resemblence of old cast molded into new cast mixed with some extra flavour to not make an identicle clone. In this case seed fans who have not seen UC shows are blessed in the sense that they have no idea or little understanding what the big fuss is all about. Until they caught up in the big debate UC vs CE arguments. But to answer your question again, no im not sure on accuracy, but sure there are resemblence in Eidolon Sniper pairings but it doesnt make them absolute accurate. |
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2008-03-02, 10:12 | Link #1106 | ||
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2008-03-02, 12:26 | Link #1108 | ||
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SEED and Destiny did quite well into bringing in a whole new generation of younger fans, but mostly, from what I know from other CE fans that I have encountered, they only care much for the "easy looking character designs", the "flashy mech designs", and the "ensuing love story of whether so and so will end up with so and so", bringing bad name to CE fans who are serious enough to look well beyond that. It brings understandable irritation from a fan who truly loved Gundam for all its other aspects, especially the love story part, in the essence that Fukuda created a "monster" - it has now become more of how will the old cast loves be dealt with by the upcoming supposed movie or 3rd series, and has also created for himself a quicksand trap for probably setting up the old cast members as virtually stereotyped and wouldn't need to be touched unless they would change for the better more (like concluding their love stories for instance with a marriage or something). Essentially the entire war on ideals premise was borrowed primarily from Wing, with some hints of UC and other AU (if there is any) here and there. They also had their own love stories as well, but it didn't actually derail the entire story to just have fans pining for more so and so screentime of couple A and B together. >.>;; Quote:
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2008-03-02, 12:58 | Link #1110 |
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I think you're still not answering the question or adding on to your argument, 4Tran. Also, while we LOL at the "seeming ridiculousness" of Gundam's take on wars, some premise of it is actually taking place right now if it comes to that. Earth VS colonies = sound like racism, do they not? Terrorism, blind belief in one's leader, the slow but steady spiral into another world war (the arms race), ideologies...the list goes on and on. It was just "fictionalized" in order for younger fans to understand what the heck is going on in today's world. SEED/Destiny is one such example.
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2008-03-03, 02:02 | Link #1112 |
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Well, you only seem to just go around the question - whether or not SEED/Destiny is a parallel of MSG/ Zeta. Sometimes you even contradict yourself. >.>;; I actually have no idea what you're trying to say anymore.
Earth and the colonies....come on, one of the major reasons that is why there have been wars in Gundam shows is because of this very same difference - those people born in earth and those people born in the colonies. It has always come to a point that says that "we must wage war on the colonies/earth for they are different and have done evil things to us in the past because of this said difference" to some point or another. Acts like being evil to another person just because he or she is different - either race, gender, or skin color - happens in the real world nowadays. While fans tend to watch Gundams because of their popularity, or cult following or whatever, they are at the same time getting educated not knowing that they are getting educated. I for one, have had no idea what pacifism was until Relena introduced me to it. >.>;; and yes, I was young and was just trying to expand my a anime knowledge beyond Sailormoon (and I learned about several Greek legends through Sailormoon as well :P ). They're rather stylized retellings of what happens in the world today, so they are not literally by the book literal kind of explanation or situation. Trying to explain pacifism to a teenager would not make sense if he just had a book to read upon it, right? People learn and understand and take note and retain knowledge much better if they see, hear, experience things that they do not especially comprehend - that is why there are bedtime fairy tale stories, etc. While not necessarily saying outright that they are preaching something, the said preaching is woven into how the story is presented - through characters and situations that a child could identify with, and could easily learn from. It's the same with anime nowadays, or most of it anyway. Anyway, this is really getting off topic, which comes to the initial question of this entire thread, the possibility of a 3rd GS series or a movie in the works. I think I have explained myself as to why I think it may not be feasible, after what had happened in SE IV. The only possible "redemption" the CE would have would most likely to retcon the entire story from the beginning, in order to iron out all plotholes. What do you think?
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2008-03-03, 02:47 | Link #1113 |
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I don't think so. I can imagine some small rebellion with a very powerful mecha, though. And I can imagine a "kill'em all" spree of Fukuda, if he has courage enough to carry it out nicely and dramatically. The way he never did in Destiny. In this case, I'm taliing about the movie.
If we're talking about yet another entire 50-episode series, then I think we should just jump forward a decade or so. I've mentioned once my imaginary story about the new group of Celestial Being-like terrorists that roam the divided lands of Earth Federation, spreading fear with its Mobile Suits, including a new Gundam. The new anti-terrorist team is formed in Orb to help out fixing the chaos. With only one Gundam at the lead to face the powerful mecha of the enemy. Kagalli would probably be the main recurring old character, with the rest having their cameos. Maybe the conflict would later spread to space and lead to the assasination of Lacus. Kira could end up pulling out "kamikaze move" and sacrificing himself to give the new main protagonist a chance to save the world (like destroying some barrier generator that supplies some deadly ultimate weapon or smth). |
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But the powerful mecha was also disregarded - Destroy Gundam - by the time it suddenly became a grunt suit to the likes of Shinn's Destiny and Rey's Legend (when if truth be told they were almost created at the same time...>.>;; ). "Rebellion" happened with the Zala fanatics who tried to colony drop the earth and were on a suicide mission - I think none of them survived, they would just rather get killed than be gotten by the enemies. DSSD? I haven't actually watched Stargazer, but the Stargazer Gundam has potential - or maybe not.
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If the rumors are true, Sunrise wouldn't let the husband and wife team handle the movie, not with their talent to create a monster too powerful to contain. It would be interesting if another director were to helm the movie and tries to make do with the bare material that could be left to develop - such as Talia's son - in order to create a movie based on that. I even loved the Astray shorts!
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New series, new models. Simple. |
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Yup. My idea was just one of many which one could really develop from the current geopolitical situation in CE. |
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I don't know all of the kanji and sort of rushed through it, but I'd sort of guess that it's more of a disclaimer (sort of like one of those "all of the characters and story in this movie are fiction. Any resemblance to people, living or dead, is purely coincidence" messages). I can do a full translation later I suppose...
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