2014-04-09, 11:33 | Link #1101 |
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I think james0246 hit it in the head.
It's not about being the most gifted swordfighter but about surviving/winning long enough to build a reputation. Bronn is probably not the best swordfighter in the seven realms but his streetsmarts and cunning allowed him to win against the knight of the Vale, back in season 2. Also, Jaime may have great skill, but after days of captivity he was clearly not at his peak when Brienne pwned him. |
2014-04-09, 21:07 | Link #1105 | ||
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Anyway, the fight didn't look like a stalemate to me at all. It started out well, but before long it became pretty easy for Brienne and she even started defending Jaime's attacks nonchalantly, single-handed, holding what looked like a two-handed sword. With that said, I really missed alot of information when I first watched it. What I didn't notice before as the fight went on, was the camera specifically focusing on Jaime holding out his sword toward Brienne and dropping it --which she noticed and grinned. His attacks soon thereafter were followed by him wheezing, gasping, and dragging the sword on the ground, unable to hold it up. I obviously didn't pay as close attention to this fight before, but I'd definitely agree that he apparently lost due to his poor health, as he was doing pretty well in the beginning. The punches and kicks to the gut from Brienne clad in armor probably took a substantial toll on him as well. Either way though, Brienne is obviously a pretty skilled swordsman in her own right, and apparently has freakish strength. Quote:
Him being a tournament fighter explains his enthusiastic attitude towards duels and swords for me now. Now I can place his and Ned's mocking each other back in season 1 in better context; especially Ned saying "handsome armor, not a scratch on it", and "I don't fight in tournaments because when I fight a man for real, I don't want him to know what I can do". Can someone explain without spoilers why Ned and Jaime disliked each other? I remember Jaime's side of the story as he explained it to Brienne, but I don't fully understand why Ned condemns him for those events, if what Jaime says is the truth. Last edited by Artful Dodger; 2014-04-09 at 21:21. |
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2014-04-09, 23:57 | Link #1106 | |
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I think the point I am more trying to make is how martial strength is often considered completely irrelevant to the real power plays going on in the series. |
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2014-04-11, 11:59 | Link #1107 |
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Anyone else think Jaime and giant woman miiiight get close? ( I forgot her name D: )
Certainly better person for him than his.............-shiver- Also, I think he looked bad ass when he was scruffy.
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2014-04-12, 09:23 | Link #1109 | |
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...re-watching that duel between Loras and Brienne, it's even more evident. Loras is smacking her around with a two handed axe, and the bitch just won't go down. Frankly you have to get someone like the Hound before you can start expecting Brienne to lose out when it comes to physical strength. edit: Honestly if anyone gets cut short it might be Loras. The guy isn't a brute, but he IS an incredibly skilled swordsmen...who has the incredibly shitty luck to constantly find himself getting pitted in fights against other highly skilled warriors, who are significantly to MASSIVELY stronger than him.
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2014-04-13, 17:30 | Link #1116 | |
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Was the fight between Jaime and Ned in the series close to what happened in the book? Does the book describe it as close a fight as it was depicted in the show? |
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2014-04-13, 19:01 | Link #1117 |
Behold! We are the Nine!
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There is no duel in the book.
If i remember correctly, Jaime didn't fight at all. He only ordered his men to attack Ned's group. In short, it's Ned and three of his guards vs lots of Lannister soldiers. |
2014-04-14, 00:17 | Link #1120 |
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Can't be a spoiler if the episode is already out
Anyway it's poison pie, the emphasis on the pie after the cutting, and him constantly saying that the pie is "dry". Now the question is, who poisoned the pie? Our former knight turned jester is obviously involved somehow, but who's the ringleader? I'm willing to bet it's our new queen~
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