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GundamFan0083 · 2011-01-08, 14:30

Mexico has a busy morning too it would seem.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=12571028

Asuras · 2011-01-08, 14:31

Jesus 'effing christ. This world is a sick joke.

flying ^ · 2011-01-08, 14:31

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Originally Posted by GundamFan0083

Mexico has a busy morning too it would seem.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=12571028

busy saturday morning indeed

wait...

14 decapitated bodies?
geez i doubt the taliban are as bad as those mex. cartels

Kamui4356 · 2011-01-08, 14:40

Now they're saying Giffords is not dead. I'm not going to believe anything one way or another on that until there's an official press release on her condition.

Anh_Minh · 2011-01-08, 14:49

Maybe she's in a condition similar to Terry Schiavo. And nobody can agree if that constitutes "dead" or not...

Xellos-_^ · 2011-01-08, 14:50

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Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Maybe she's in a condition similar to Terry Schiavo. And nobody can agree if that constitutes "dead" or not...

too early to make that determination

solomon · 2011-01-08, 14:59

On the Giffords case;

The three cable news networks and my local news radio WTOP in D.C. have reported word from hospital that she is alive and in critical condition.

Culprit is a 21 year old male according to CNN.

synaesthetic · 2011-01-08, 15:08

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Originally Posted by Asuras

I swear to god, Right to Bear Arms is such a stupid right.

By saying this, you are ascribing a higher state of humanity to government employees, law enforcement officers and military soldiers.

They are human just like us. They should not have more or less rights than us, and that includes the ownership of weapons.

Opposing the right to bear arms is tantamount to claiming that unless you work for the government, you're too stupid and/or dangerous to own a weapon. And I take offense at that; I owned several weapons for many years and I never went on a killing spree. And I've read many incidents of corrupt cops, soldiers gone bonkers, all manner of the "higher lifeform government employee" going off their rocker just like an average Joe.

Madmen will always exist, and if you take away their guns, they'll just kill with something else.

Leave those of us who like to put holes in paper men alone.

solomon · 2011-01-08, 15:12

Preliminarious Wordage of Cautionitude

Lets not get into one of those political dog fights on the thread.

solomon · 2011-01-08, 15:20

um...Hello?

Asuras · 2011-01-08, 15:21

You do realize not everyone reads over posts while simultaneously writing their own, right? It's not like I was typing and periodically checking back. The only info I needed was quoted, so there was no reason to check back in.

I can delete it, ya?

Kamui4356 · 2011-01-08, 16:03

Official press statement from the hospital. Giffords is alive, following commands, and the surgeon is optimistic. Unfortunately, among the dead is a young child.

flying ^ · 2011-01-08, 16:08

ok someone took this map a bit too seriously

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/235408/SAR...TARGET-MAP.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2993681_n.jpg

Asuras · 2011-01-08, 16:09

Many others are in critical condition however.

You honestly thought it was a joke? Things like that are sinister, disgusting, I felt bad just looking at it. The Tea Party is no party, they're maniacs.

flying ^ · 2011-01-08, 16:36

here's the shooter's youtube channel and he's got interesting clips
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../0/7uRjwPWaxiY
his favorite clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1lsLU-kUw
he is/was obsessed with grammar control, brainwashing, terrorism,
currency, revolution, and so on.

GDB · 2011-01-08, 16:41

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Originally Posted by synaesthetic

Opposing the right to bear arms is tantamount to claiming that unless you work for the government, you're too stupid and/or dangerous to own a weapon.

It could also mean that you don't believe it's a "right", but rather a "privilege" that one must earn by proving they know how to handle it properly, as opposed to just allowing anyone to have one. It's not like there's a Right to Bear Wheels or anything. You have to prove you know how to drive, since if you don't conduct yourself properly, people can die. Same thing here.

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Leave those of us who like to put holes in paper men alone.

If Japan has taught us anything, it's that people are people, whether they're drawn or not!

Frenchie · 2011-01-08, 18:02

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It could also mean that you don't believe it's a "right", but rather a "privilege" that one must earn by proving they know how to handle it properly, as opposed to just allowing anyone to have one. It's not like there's a Right to Bear Wheels or anything. You have to prove you know how to drive, since if you don't conduct yourself properly, people can die. Same thing here.

Articulate and to the point. I had no idea Arizona allowed pretty much anyone to walk out of a gun store locked and loaded. I have no words for how stupid that is.

*Insert song: Proud to Be An American by Lee Greenwood*

As for the congresswoman, my sympathies goes to her, her constituents that were shot at and no words come to me for the little 9 year old who died in the tragedy.

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ok someone took this map a bit too seriously

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/235408/SAR...TARGET-MAP.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2993681_n.jpg

With guys like Beck, Rush and Palin and the incendiary diarrhea they spew from every orifice, do you honestly think that extremism isn't encouraged? Congresswoman Giffords office was basically broken into and destroyed after she made clear her support for the Affordable Care Act. This guy that walked up to her and shot her isn't an isolated case.

Kamui4356 · 2011-01-08, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Frenchie

Articulate and to the point. I had no idea Arizona allowed pretty much anyone to walk out of a gun store locked and loaded. I have no words for how stupid that is.

Also, you don't need a concealed carry permit. Arizona has rather permissive gun laws.

Asuras · 2011-01-08, 18:23

If an Arizona cop pulls me over and says, "Papers," and I say, "Scissors," do I win?

ganbaru · 2011-01-08, 18:24

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Originally Posted by Frenchie

Articulate and to the point. I had no idea Arizona allowed pretty much anyone to walk out of a gun store locked and loaded. I have no words for how stupid that is.

*Insert song: Proud to Be An American by Lee Greenwood*

I don't feel like argumenting agains the right to bear gun, using such even for a argument isn't much of my taste but would be appropriate.

And before someone start the refrain '' and if Average Joe of the public also had a gun ? '' lets's think again. Average Joe's reaction wouldn't had been fast enough to stop the shooter firsts shot and would probably been far less precise than he would be at a firing range... increasing the probability than Average Joe's gun could increase the number of injuried/dead

2011-01-08, 14:30	Link #11181
GundamFan0083 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: classified	Mexico has a busy morning too it would seem. http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=12571028 __________________

2011-01-08, 14:31	Link #11182
Asuras Dictadere~! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: On the front lines, fighting for inderpendence.	Jesus 'effing christ. This world is a sick joke. __________________

2011-01-08, 14:40	Link #11184
Kamui4356 Aria Company Join Date: Nov 2003	Now they're saying Giffords is not dead. I'm not going to believe anything one way or another on that until there's an official press release on her condition. __________________

2011-01-08, 15:21	Link #11191
Asuras Dictadere~! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: On the front lines, fighting for inderpendence.	You do realize not everyone reads over posts while simultaneously writing their own, right? It's not like I was typing and periodically checking back. The only info I needed was quoted, so there was no reason to check back in. I can delete it, ya? __________________

2011-01-08, 16:03	Link #11192
Kamui4356 Aria Company Join Date: Nov 2003	Official press statement from the hospital. Giffords is alive, following commands, and the surgeon is optimistic. Unfortunately, among the dead is a young child. __________________

2011-01-08, 14:49	Link #11185
Anh_Minh I disagree with you all. Join Date: Dec 2005	Maybe she's in a condition similar to Terry Schiavo. And nobody can agree if that constitutes "dead" or not...

2011-01-08, 14:59	Link #11187
solomon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suburban DC	On the Giffords case; The three cable news networks and my local news radio WTOP in D.C. have reported word from hospital that she is alive and in critical condition. Culprit is a 21 year old male according to CNN.

2011-01-08, 15:12	Link #11189
solomon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suburban DC	Preliminarious Wordage of Cautionitude Lets not get into one of those political dog fights on the thread.

2011-01-08, 15:20	Link #11190
solomon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suburban DC	um...Hello?

2011-01-08, 16:08	Link #11193
flying ^ Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010	ok someone took this map a bit too seriously http://i.huffpost.com/gen/235408/SAR...TARGET-MAP.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2993681_n.jpg Last edited by flying ^; 2011-01-08 at 18:45.

2011-01-08, 16:09	Link #11194
Asuras Dictadere~! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: On the front lines, fighting for inderpendence.	Many others are in critical condition however. You honestly thought it was a joke? Things like that are sinister, disgusting, I felt bad just looking at it. The Tea Party is no party, they're maniacs. __________________

2011-01-08, 16:36	Link #11195
flying ^ Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010	here's the shooter's youtube channel and he's got interesting clips http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitu.../0/7uRjwPWaxiY his favorite clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1lsLU-kUw he is/was obsessed with grammar control, brainwashing, terrorism, currency, revolution, and so on.

2011-01-08, 18:23	Link #11199
Asuras Dictadere~! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: On the front lines, fighting for inderpendence.	If an Arizona cop pulls me over and says, "Papers," and I say, "Scissors," do I win? __________________