2012-10-19, 09:01 | Link #1121 |
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it makes byakuya sound like a wuss, the whole character development of byakuya we use to is totally changed, the man who highly put his pride and honor first is like totally changed in this 1 chapter, which totally come to ask, is this byakuya we come to know all this years hmmmm
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2012-10-19, 15:35 | Link #1123 | |
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2012-10-19, 20:02 | Link #1124 |
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Meh... I got to thinking after I read the chapter... Is this, like, an official assaignment? The Sotaicho is dead, and a captain who is also the head of one of the four great noble families makes a last request of Ichigo - "protect Soul Society". Will push Ichi's buttons, anyway
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2012-10-20, 00:59 | Link #1125 | ||
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I certainly didn't ask for a moderator to do that neither. I don't mind people having different opinions, that doesn't mean that I can't state my opinion about their arguments. A hypotesis is something you make when you are going to start an investigation. People here just merely make suppositions, and that's fine. Been said that, I found silly to make a supposition, then take that supposition as a fact, and then criticise the author for something that he didn't even wrote. |
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2012-10-20, 01:05 | Link #1126 | |
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2012-10-20, 02:00 | Link #1127 | |
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Anyway, this is getting off topic. I really don’t care all that much what your opinion is but don’t try to degrade my intelligence. I understood what mix message you were trying to get across with your last post but to me all I heard was, “The best opinion is no opinion at all.” The people of this forum will most likely be negative the majority of the time because of how hard Kubo trolls his readers, but we continue to read because we like Bleach. We can be upset and angry at something and still like it. We vent on the forums because we care about this series. If you can’t understand that than maybe you're at the wrong forum.
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2012-10-20, 17:27 | Link #1129 | |
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I also thought it was really fitting for his character. It showed that when it comes down to it, he cares more about protecting Soul Society than honor or nobility. Of course, if he lives, he deny all that.
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2012-10-21, 00:27 | Link #1131 | |
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Well, Juha Bach said that they were going to retreat, I don't know if that entails the nameless Quincies wrecking up the place. I kind of doubt it, but then it wouldn't make sense to have all of your putties continuing the fight when the "Zero Squad" is supposed to appear. Then again, we're talking about a villain who has killed his own followers, so I think anything goes.
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2012-10-21, 05:57 | Link #1132 | |
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he's slightly above a fodder shinigami being named right before being cut down i suppose |
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2012-10-21, 18:32 | Link #1134 |
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^ Well, technically, Ichigo shouldn't have a bankai to begin with since he has broken off his ties with Zangetsu when he went Mugetsu. (i.e., what we see right now is not a standard Bankai that a Shinigami usually has, so we are not sure if his Bankai is qualified for theft by those Quincy.)
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2012-10-21, 19:10 | Link #1136 | |
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Ichigo was indeed confirmed to have retained and reawakened shiniagmi powers during the fullbring arc. So it remains within the realm of possibility that Zangetsu didn't go anywhere (since he's the manifestation of those very powers). When Zangetsu stated that using FGT would cut ties with him, he may have only been referring to the consequent loss of Ichigo's reiatsu and shinigami powers having not known at the time that Ichigo would eventually reawaken that latent energy. What I'm basically suggesting is that either Zangetsu may have been wrong (when you consider the circumstances under which he made those statements), or we may have drawn two different interpretations of Zangetu's words and what they mean for Ichigo's powers. I know I've stated this before, but I think it remains equally possible that Ichigo's bankai can't be stolen for the same reason why no one but Juha Bach could steal Yamamoto's bankai--There isn't anyone who's spiritual energy is powerful enough to accomplish the task. |
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2012-10-21, 22:59 | Link #1139 | |
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Instead, a question I would pose is why hasn't Ichigo yet to notice or state anything weird about using getsuga tenshou & bankai without being able to feel Zangetsu's presence--assuming Zangetsu really is gone forever? And how could a hollow-based power (such as fullbring) be able to manifest shinigami-based abilities? Thanks to Kubo's interviews, we also know that Ichigo has now resumed his substitute related duties (such as performing konso's). So if we assume that Ichigo is using pseudo shinigami abilities born from hollow powers, could his zanpakuto still send lost souls off to Soul Society or purify the souls of hollows? Last edited by sayde; 2012-10-21 at 23:31. |
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2012-10-22, 02:42 | Link #1140 | |
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Also, I’ve always been under the impression that Ichigo got Zangetsu’s powers back when he did the fullbringer training. (That was the deal, wasn’t it? I know it was all some sort of backwards trick that failed, but please, correct me if I’m wrong.) He just hasn’t got in touch with this new version of Zangetsu because he hasn't been in a situation dire enough (or we will flashback to the cage). And yes, I do think Zangetsu will get another face lift. Why? I’m not entirely sure. Probably because of the fullbringer training, but I’m not really questioning the fact how Ichigo is using the sword--I thought that was the reason why we had the last arc.
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