Character Discussion - Kallen

[Sports72Xtrm]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

No, he killed her for her sake, not for the sake of his plan. He never even took responsibility. Britannia claimed they killed her after the fact.

That's a lie. He did it to look good for the Japanese. To keep the OotBK. Britannia if they did claim that was not what the whole Japanese saw on live TV. they saw Lelouch pulling the trigger.

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

That's a lie. He did it to look good for the Japanese. To keep the OotBK. Britannia if they did claim that was not what the whole Japanese saw on live TV. they saw Lelouch pulling the trigger.

No it is not a lie. She was not killed on live TV. She was killed outside the stadium. Show me where he once claims in public to have killed her.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

No it is not a lie. She was not killed on live TV. She was killed outside the stadium. Show me where he once claims in public to have killed her.

morbosfist is right: The most Zero said was that Euphie was an evil schemer.

[Sports72Xtrm]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

No it is not a lie. She was not killed on live TV. She was killed outside the stadium. Show me where he once claims in public to have killed her.

As you can tell from the background Diethard broadcasted the whole thing on National T.V.



This is Lelouch acting like the big hero for terminating the Massacre princess and blaming Britannia.

[Tokkan]

Look at the screens behind Diethard and you'll find nothing that goes outside the stadium.

Also note, as far as the Japanese knew Euphemia had been mortally wounded, not killed. They were makings yells of "Go die back in Britannia" and "Go to hell Euphemia!".

[linkinstreet]

Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

morbosfist is right: The most Zero said was that Euphie was an evil schemer.

IIRC during that episode he have no intention to kill her in the first place. I mean he was already going to stop being Zero because of her.
The same happened when Nunally became governor. He don't want to fight the ones that he think can make a difference

[youngde]

Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

Do you know why Kallen wears her hair differently between her Britannian and Japanese selves?


It's because Kallen's hair is originally somewhat curly.

One of the 'Bokura no Hibi' (No. 15, I think) implies that she does it to help conceal her identity and that 'it doesn't feel right' to have her hair in 'Lively Persona' mode when she's acting sickly.

It also suggests that her hair naturally sticks out like that, and it doesn't stay down when the air is dry.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Originally Posted by linkinstreet

IIRC during that episode he have no intention to kill her in the first place. I mean he was already going to stop being Zero because of her.
The same happened when Nunally became governor. He don't want to fight the ones that he think can make a difference

I'm splitting the entities of Lelouch and Zero.

Originally Posted by youngde

One of the 'Bokura no Hibi' (No. 15, I think) implies that she does it to help conceal her identity and that 'it doesn't feel right' to have her hair in 'Lively Persona' mode when she's acting sickly.

It also suggests that her hair naturally sticks out like that, and it doesn't stay down when the air is dry.

Yes, it's the 15th hour.

Related picture:

[Sports72Xtrm]

Originally Posted by Tokkan

Look at the screens behind Diethard and you'll find nothing that goes outside the stadium.

Point is Lelouch took all the credit for stopping her and it also said that Diethard did a little editing. So everyone basically saw Zero stopping the massacre princess.

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

As you can tell from the background Diethard broadcasted the whole thing on National T.V.

This is Lelouch acting like the big hero for terminating the Massacre princess and blaming Britannia.

Thank you for proving absolutely nothing. Now again, show me a scene where Euphemia's death (specifically) is broadcast or mentioned by Zero.

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

Point is Lelouch took all the credit for stopping her and it also said that Diethard did a little editing. S

But nothing about killing her.

[Dandylion]

Originally Posted by Sprite_Coke

Same can be said about Nunnally in current situation.

The only difference is that Euphie would have done it in a peaceful matter where as Nunnally is doing it by firing nukes, see the difference

[linkinstreet]

Originally Posted by Dandylion

The only difference is that Euphie would have done it in a peaceful matter where as Nunnally is doing it by firing nukes, see the difference

MUST PUSH BOTTANS!!
And why are we talking about other ppl in Kallen's thread? I blame trolling here

[Sports72Xtrm]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

Thank you for proving absolutely nothing. Now again, show me a scene where Euphemia's death (specifically) is broadcast or mentioned by Zero.

But nothing about killing her.

But my point is he murdered Euphie to rally the Japanese. What does it matter if they saw Zero actually pull the trigger? And you know that she actually died so what are we debating about? What does this have to do with my main point that it's the same thing in that he killed her to further his goal?

[Sprite_Coke]

Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

I'm splitting the entities of Lelouch and Zero.




Yes, it's the 15th hour.

Related picture:

You love that picture don't ya? lol
I've seen you post it more than once

[Skellington2612]

Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

I'm splitting the entities of Lelouch and Zero.




Yes, it's the 15th hour.

Related picture:

I personally love her straight hair, but I liked the one she has in the picture drama, but I like her more with her hair up in a ponytail like the one she has in the Lost Colors discs....

[Tokkan]

We diverged from why Suzaku killing Kallen would be a big no no to Lelouch.

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

But my point is he murdered Euphie to rally the Japanese. What does it matter if they saw Zero actually pull the trigger? And you know that actually died so what are we debating about? What does this have to do with my main point that it's the same thing in that he killed her to further his goal?

I said if before, I'll say it again. As far as the Japanese knew, she had been mortally wounded and not killed. I mean, HELLO, they were yelling out "Go to hell Euphemia, go die in Britannia". That's the only reason the Britannians could pull their execution story out of their asses.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

But my point is he murdered Euphie to rally the Japanese. What does it matter if they saw Zero actually pull the trigger? And you know that actually died so what are we debating about? What does this have to do with my main point that it's the same thing in that he killed her to further his goal?

You're point is incorrect. Lelouch killed Euphie to stop her rampage, and then used the high feelings against Britannia to his advantage.


All in all, if Lelouch could have found a way to stop her without killing, he would have done so, and still rally the Japanese.

Originally Posted by Sprite_Coke

You love that picture don't ya? lol
I've seen you post it more than once

It's only the second time.

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Sports72Xtrm

But my point is he murdered Euphie to rally the Japanese. What does it matter if they saw Zero actually pull the trigger? And you know that she actually died so what are we debating about? What does this have to do with my main point that it's the same thing in that he killed her to further his goal?

It's relevant to your point because Euphy's death had nothing to do with rallying the Japanese. It was neither mentioned by Zero nor broadcast by Diethard. No one knew she had died. The massacre is what rallied the Japanese people, hence your argument that her death furthered his cause is wrong. He could have knocked her out and let the Britannian's pick her up.

[linkinstreet]

Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

It's only the second time.

You sir owe us more Kallen pics
ALL HAIL THE KALULU EMPEROR!

[Skellington2612]

Originally Posted by Kang Seung Jae

You're point is incorrect. Lelouch killed Euphie to stop her rampage, and then used the high feelings against Britannia to his advantage.


All in all, if Lelouch could have found a way to stop her without killing, he would have done so, and still rally the Japanese.




It's only the second time.

I don´t know about that, after having killing japanese, if she was un-geassed she´d feel terrible, and still carry the guilt of having killed japanese even if it was one or a few, she was guilty in front of other people...