2015-09-11, 06:37 | Link #1161 |
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Well yeah, but even Archer need several years to reach the badass level. The UBW!Shirou need to steal Archer's own experience and HF!Shirou got Archer's arm. Here it look like he had no mentor like Rin, no Archer, he didn't have a single ally. DOn't tell me he just got a power up simply from making a wish to Miyu?
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2015-09-11, 10:22 | Link #1163 | |
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Ilya's Shirou is pretty much comic relief.
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2015-09-11, 17:16 | Link #1164 | |
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He's probably instructed not to show any magic in front of Illya. He has zero clue his little sister knows more magic now than he does. |
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2015-09-11, 17:39 | Link #1165 | |
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And because he was cursed by the Grail, he couldn't pass the Einzbern's field to save Ilya. Kotomine was also the one who killed Irisviel/knocked out her human consciousness and hastened her merging with the tainted grail. Had Kotomine not participated, it's possible Kiritsugu could have chosen to reject the Grail and save his family right as he noticed her deteriorating condition. |
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2015-09-11, 22:47 | Link #1167 |
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Agreed. However many Grail Wars, if any, happened in Illya's 'verse before Kerry and Iri decided to put it all down the tubes, whatever they did was done before or at the start of their Fourth War (Zero) analogue. Considering Iri is still Iri, the Grail was almost certainly never summoned.
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2015-09-12, 05:45 | Link #1168 |
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I wonder if a Heroic Spirit can be summoned the other world. I would explain why Gilgamesh exists. If it can, Saber would be the best choice.
Look forward to how the story progresses. I bet after the storytelling; training will happen. I'm still interest in Rin as she reacted to Matou existing in the other would. There will probably be a short arc to her. |
2015-09-13, 09:22 | Link #1169 | |
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Also, I wonder what Mama Iri would do to Rin once Illya returns from this world. The theme of Miyu wishing to be a true sister to Shirou, is an interesting parallel to Luvia regarding Miyu as her own precious sister. I wonder whether Luvia realizes that irony- or whether it's a catalyst for Luvia to be even more aggressive in pursuing Shirou, on the warped reasoning that marrying another Shirou would make Miyu's wish come true. Finally, I think that if Zeltretch ever recalls Luvia and Rin to the Clock Tower, that Miyu and Illya would follow. For Miyu, it would be for the sake of Luvia. For Illya, I think it would be the sake of being with Miyu longer. Also, there's the issue of the Archer Card being the basis of Kuro, and the fact that technically, Miyu and Illya Klaeidosticks are Mystic Codes belonging to Zeltretch (who I am sure is very aware that Miyu and Illya are keys of sorts, to the Root). |
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2015-09-13, 23:03 | Link #1170 | |
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Plus how does Thor work? He isn't a heroic spirit per se but a god. Which leads to the theory the Ainsworth are not using the Throne of Heroes at all. The cube could be the Moon Cell which is also called in Fate Extra as the Holy Grail. |
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2015-09-18, 20:49 | Link #1171 |
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I would be fun if there was a Gil VS Saber fight at the end of the series arc. If Avalon is within Illya, it would interesting.
I think there will be a training arc after Shirou's storytelling. I just thought of something funny. If Illya was ever taught by Merlin, he would do every half-taught and would cause constant bickering with Illya. Last edited by tuckersister; 2015-09-19 at 07:57. |
2015-09-20, 18:37 | Link #1172 |
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It occurs to me that Mimi's little brother may end up like Nanaki having a grudge on Illya, Kuro and Suzuka for turning her sweet sister to a fujoshi like with Rin and Luvia giving Nanami a frog phobia.
I'm imagining him calling Illya and Kuro corrupting incestuous white and black twin lesbians and Suzuka as a four eyed rotten girl. |
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fate/kaleid liner, magical girl spinoff |
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