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Perfect 10 | 35 | 63.64% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 15 | 27.27% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 2 | 3.64% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 5.45% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2015-05-24, 23:17 | Link #101 | |
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2015-05-24, 23:53 | Link #104 |
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Because magi are inherently secretive, Shirou would've made damn sure no one learned of his research. Which, for EMIYA, likely happened when he was constantly on the move, keeping out of the reach of the Mages' Association.
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2015-05-25, 01:03 | Link #109 | |
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So nobody should be able to use them other than them. And don't use the bloody wiki other than the interviews and material in the reference section.
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2015-05-25, 01:13 | Link #110 | |
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a) Fairly secretive of it. The only ones who know he has a reality marble are either dead, or his best friends. b) All over the globe saving the world c) Very good at fighting and killing. |
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2015-05-25, 01:19 | Link #111 |
Goat Herder
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EMIYA was still a human being, though, and had all of the weaknesses and failings of a human being. And he is far from the best magus in the Type-Moon universe--they could send an Enforcer or three like Bazett after him and he'd be wrecked easily unless he got his Reality Marble deployed--which, if they're coming after him, they would be aware of and likely wouldn't allow him to do.
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2015-05-25, 01:23 | Link #112 | |
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Of course, the likelihood of a totally different people calling his/her reality marble unlimited blade works is probably slim, but they should still be able to produce a similar-looking world. |
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2015-05-25, 01:44 | Link #113 |
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It's not nearly as clear cut a case as having a "similar" mental state to produce a similar Reality Marble. Humans who can produce them on their own (Iskander is kind of an exception) are almost alien in mindset, effectively running off of a different OS than the world, Gaia, is, and effectively have their own unique world within them. Reality Marbles are representative of it, and every aspect of it has significance to the wielder, even if those aspects are merely cosmetic. Shirou and EMIYA's altered perspectives are a product of specific circumstances and events. They are a result of their shared distortion (wanting to save people regardless of their own selves), their experiences in life (like the Fuyuki fire, EMIYA's conflicts, so on and so forth), and their shared aligned Origin and element of "Sword", which itself is a result of Avalon's implantation in them at such a young age.
Shirou and EMIYA's Reality Marbles are indeed different in certain cosmetic aspects, which is representative of the difference between them. They are similar, however, because Shirou and EMIYA are similar. While they feel alien to each other, resulting in the differences, you must keep in mind that Shirou and EMIYA's mindsets and personalities are still alien to literally everyone else around them. Very, very, VERY few humans could ever manifest Reality Marbles, which are more common amongst creatures like demons, aliens, and Dead Apostles, themselves products of beings that originated from an actual alien.
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2015-05-25, 01:58 | Link #114 |
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Do note that I wasn't saying that just anybody can do it. What I'm saying is that if anyone else has a similar mindset and is capable of producing a reality marble, then the reality marble that is the representation of such a mindset should also be similar, and any differences would be as a result of whatever differences there are between the two people, like between Shirou and Archer.
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2015-05-25, 01:58 | Link #115 |
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Being Lancer is suffering. Being Lancer is also F***ING AWESOME. Damn, that was a hell of a way to go.
Also, I finally understand the origin of the word GAR on an emotional level. Both Archer and Shirou are making me very confused sexually.
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2015-05-25, 07:05 | Link #116 | |
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The wiki's not wrong here. People just misinterpret it. And, as I say every time someone complains that the wiki is bad, fix it or make something better. |
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2015-05-25, 08:39 | Link #117 |
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Shirou is a very special case because, as GDB said, his origin was forcefully changed to "Sword." Theoretically, it's possible that if someone similar enough to Shirou in personality also had their origin forcefully changed to "Sword," they could produce something similar to UBW.
But you have to remember EMIYA's UBW was a product of both his ideals and his life. Shirou's UBW was heavily influenced by his encounter with Archer, in addition to the above, and that created an entirely different Field. So the circumstances that would lead to the creation of the Reality Marble would be very precise, even the tiniest in changes could lead to incredibly dramatic changes to it. There's also no guarantee that the person would have an affinity for Projection like Shirou did. They could end up developing an ability similar to Berserker in F/Z, allowing them to unlock the potential of anything sword-like. They could become proficient in actually producing Holy and Demonic swords, not just projecting them. They could have their body slowly change to become more sword-like, similar to Shirou in HF. Really anything is possible. So to sum up, it is theoretically possible someone could develop a Reality Marble similar to UBW, at least in effect, but the chances are vanishingly small, and obviously even if it happened there would be huge differences depending on the individual in question. |
2015-05-25, 09:00 | Link #118 | |
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2015-05-25, 11:13 | Link #119 | |
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That being said, even with the above experience there's still the hurdle for "obtaining" a reality marble, which there is no known method. You either have it, or you don't. It is like rolling a 7 on a regular dice. Last edited by iamandragon; 2015-05-25 at 11:33. |
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