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View Poll Results: Penguin Drum - Episode 14 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 24 | 36.36% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 29 | 43.94% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 10 | 15.15% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 3.03% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.52% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-10-16, 19:50 | Link #101 | |
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Am I the only one left who think they are creepy? Seriously, what are they here for? Why are only the Takakuras and Natsume(s) able to see them? Why did San-chan disappeared when Himari died?
We really don't know anything about what they are yet. But we know they've been sent by Sanetoshi. The guy who is planning on destroying them. How suspicious is that? Quote:
I too hope for some yuri development and/or action (please no rape!) in MawaPen, but I'm waiting next week to know if episode 14 was intended to deceive (troll ?) yuri fanboys/fangirls, or not.
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2011-10-16, 21:15 | Link #102 |
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Seeing as they were at a hotsprings, I'd find it hard to believe Ringo wouldn't have noticed a penis when they were stripping down.
I'm still on the side that says she's simply gay, or has some type of scar (ie: on her genitals) possibly related to Tabuki's scars (I don't think it's going out on a limb to speculate she and Tabuki were very close if only due to their shared obsession over Momoka). But, really, Yuri could be Kanba's mom in disguise and I wouldn't be surprised. I think this show has made me reach that dark place where nothing can shock me anymore.
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2011-10-16, 22:00 | Link #103 | ||
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2011-10-16, 22:25 | Link #104 |
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I never said you did approve of the rape factor (and I am sure no one on here does) but I am just saying not liking Yuri/Ringo might have nothing to do with disliking Yuri but disliking the rape aspect of the relationship.
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2011-10-17, 00:09 | Link #105 | |
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Tha said, I wouldn't mind yuri in Penguidrum (provided it isn't rape!). I'm a yuri fan after all.
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2011-10-17, 00:23 | Link #106 |
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Well, regardless of what secret Yuri is hiding about her body, the last scene of this episode is visually indistinguishable from yuri (rape yuri, but yuri nonetheless ).
It may well end up not being actual yuri, but hey, if it looks like a duck, and if it sounds like a duck, then for some viewers it can have the same impact as seeing a duck, even if it is a swan or a goose. I do agree, though, that being a fan of yuri is not the same as being a fan of futanari. It honestly annoys me a bit how much I come across futanari when I search various image sites for yuri.
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2011-10-17, 00:39 | Link #107 | |
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Imagine Tabuki with a screw on his head, instant soul eater.
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2011-10-17, 02:46 | Link #108 | |
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lol, what's with all the italics for yuri and futanari? It's kinda distracting, like subliminal messaging. I don't think we need to emphasize the words that much.
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Incidentally, has anybody else here watched Heartcatch Precure? Yuri x Momoka are an actual pair of older girls and close friends over there, and I personally am quite a fan. The coincidence of names is rather uncanny that I might be tempted to think it a reference. |
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2011-10-17, 03:42 | Link #109 | |
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On the other hand, whether Yuri can be considered a lesbian (which is not necessarily the same as yuri) if she's indeed a hermaphrodite is not for me to decide, I think. Lesbian is a self-identification label after all, and I don't even call proper yuri characters lesbian unless they call themselves this way (or the Japanese equivalents) in-universe.
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2011-10-17, 03:48 | Link #110 | ||
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2011-10-17, 05:20 | Link #111 |
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On the final screen of this anime .. i don't even know what is this feeling i am having now. You knows, like a self conflict where i morally think it should not happen. But somehow the potential development from the event will shake the story so much that I am curious how Ikuhara will handle it... Still i don't want it to happen. But then... maybe...
Yuri is one of the character that I like through, so i still believe that the coming development will save her form being hared. I means.... I used to hate Kanba after the first episode. He then redeemed himself. I also really hate Ringo and her attitude back then. She was now part of my favorite character. Even Natsume somehow showed her caring side.And most of the Utena's cast too. Yuri was not a cool woman that she showed herself to be, but the beginning of this ep showed that she is also having her own pain and conflict that it's too soon to judge her now. Why did she tell Ringo on her feeling toward Shouma? Why didn't she steal Momoka diary sooner (during the bird watching ep perhaps, even when she willing to go extra far to tear it off with her motorcycle) Now on Yuri's gender and the whole futarini or yuri issue , to Nina.Wolken and Kazu-kun and others interested in the topic, what i think is: Spoiler for In case other ppl are uncomfortable with the issues:
The question now is, who is Momoka's reincarnation. Ringo? Mario? Himari? Btw, If someone gonna save Ringo, i will bet on Tabuki more than Natsume (who seems to be on Kanba's train till recently)
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2011-10-17, 07:01 | Link #112 | |
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Just because someone has ONE different part of the body sdoesn't mean that they instantly became that person/thing. If I were to have, I duno... a tail! I still would consider myself a human because I don't have claws, fure, feet like monkey and etc. Everything is of a human except the tail so I am human for biggest part! That's exactly how I see hermaphrodites unless they are totally denying it. Though I can't see Yuri denying the fact that she is a female. So for me she is like 70-80% female and 30-20% male. So basicly it is 70-80% yuri and 30-20% futunari, that's how I see it. And I'm talking specificly about hermaphrodites and not about random doujinshi where girls all of a sudden grow dicks. For me these two things are totally different.
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2011-10-17, 07:47 | Link #113 | |||
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Or is something, some kind of miracle supposed to occur once you've complete everything written in it? I'm incline to believe Yuri and Ringo only care about the diary and follow what's inside because Momoka wrote it. Ringo already gave up but Yuri is trying to get as close (way too close Yuri, way too close!) as possible to Momoka by accomplishing what is in the diary. But both Ringo and Yuri seem to ignore what the real purpose/power of the diary is. Masako and PoC in the other hand want the diary to create some kind of miracle. Not clear yet clear what that is for PoC, but in Masako's case that would be saving Mario's life. Mario who, like Himari, survived so far thanks to Sanetoshi's apple (see the flashback in ep 09) and then capsules. So, what if the diary was of the same nature than Sanetoshi's capsules, but much stronger? In episode 12, we see Sanetoshi collecting one apple which he transform into a capsule (to make it easier to ingest?). But when he collect it, the doctor's body disappears at the same time . Could it be that those capsules require human sacrifice? Or at least, when their time is up (as symbolized by the apple) Sanetoshi collects their bodies and turn them into elixir. I've no idea how but I doubt the process is important. Then could it be that when Momoka died, her body too transformed? Not in elixir, but in the diary? And now Momoka's diary = Momoka's body. I've noted the elixir and the diary are of the same color and Mamoka's body was never found. Only her diary remained after the terrorist attack... Now the biggest problem is that the diary has been torn in half . Hopefully there is a way to put it back together or any re-apparition of Momoka would be damn ugly Quote:
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Edit: on the last point, we would better wait next week to be sure there is anything to actually debate.
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2011-10-17, 08:00 | Link #115 |
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Because of episode 13 and Sanetoshi's speech in the library. Also :
Simply wanted to add that if the Diary is Momoka's body, PoC being Momoka's soul, it makes perfect sens she tries to get it back .
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2011-10-17, 08:29 | Link #116 | |
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Yeah, with that visual, it's almost certainly true that PoC = Momoka.
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2011-10-17, 11:34 | Link #117 | |
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When you think about it, poor Ringo, are screwed up by her three seniors, Tabuki, Momoka and Yuri. The first two do in in her head, the last one gonna do it literally If you do not find it funny,my apologise. Don't neg rep me, i nearly get that 4th green thingy ( m_ _)m PS: what kind of drug did Yuri spiked Ringo btw, she was not quite unconscious, just pant hard and show no resistance.
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2011-10-17, 12:31 | Link #119 | |
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2011-10-17, 15:17 | Link #120 | |
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http://www.womenshealth.gov/publicat...rape-drugs.cfm
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