(L) Re:Creators

[RDNexus]

You think only the authors have a say on such things?
Each character, it's story, and so on, has tons of different licenses adhered to it.
It'd take a ton of money and bureaucracy to get such a setting running nicely.

Don't underestimate the power of money and greed

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

You're right. Some of the dialogue from the character characters* was really cheesy and over-the-top in its attempt to sound smart and sophisticated and all high-falutin' philosophical. But then, isn't that a common flaw in many anime shows?

And that's exactly the point the of that last joke of the episode. She said it was a "dajare", which don't just mean pun, it's more like intentionally pretentious expression without much meaning. Now that's backfiring on every pretentious dialogues

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

If Re:Creators' premise was to unfold in real life, I have my doubts Gen Urobuchi would survive a week. It's actually kinda funny to think of Akemi Homura, Sayaka Miki, Slaine Troyard, and various Psycho-Pass characters all threatening to kill him for his horrible misdeeds, ha ha!

Please, I think he can do better than that. Remember, he created Kaizuka Inaho as well. All those characters he created, he already knows their weaknesses, both physical and mental. I wouldn't be surprised if he could talk them into a mental breakdown.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

This show's premise offers a lot of potential, a lot of potential for wild fun and also some potential to be truly thought-provoking. But it also offers a lot of potential pitfalls and it's going to be interesting to see if Re:Creators can avoid most or all of those pitfalls.

The writing team consists of Rei Hiroe & Ei Aoki, isn't it? Hmm.... Rei is Black Lagoon mangaka and Ei is the director for both F/Z & A.Z. Both of them are capable of greatness. Let's hope they bring their A-game and well-cooperation for this show so that it doesn't end up like Aldnoah. *ugh*

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by xrick

You think only the authors have a say on such things?
Each character, it's story, and so on, has tons of different licenses adhered to it.
It'd take a ton of money and bureaucracy to get such a setting running nicely.

Don't underestimate the power of money and greed

guess i shouldnt hold my breath until naruto vs ichigo will happen

[SPARTAN 119]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

If Re:Creators' premise was to unfold in real life, I have my doubts Gen Urobuchi would survive a week. It's actually kinda funny to think of Akemi Homura, Sayaka Miki, Slaine Troyard, and various Psycho-Pass characters all threatening to kill him for his horrible misdeeds, ha ha!

And yet, As I posted below, Urobuchi's American counterpart in character slaughter, Game of Thrones author George R.R. Martin would probably be OK in this scenario, as the character who want to kill him are at a medieval technology level and he lives in America, a place where you can literally buy a gun at Wal-Mart.

Originally Posted by SPARTAN 119

Another silly "Re:Creators with real characters and authors moment:

Spoiler for Meanwhile, in America....:

News Anchor: Police in Santa Fe, New Mexico responded to the home of Game of Thrones creator George R.R. Martin today to find Martin armed with an AR-15 assault rifle, standing over the bodies of over 150 of his heavily outgunned creations. Police spokesmen have stated that "Knowing Martin, I'm not all that surprised".

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Please, I think he can do better than that. Remember, he created Kaizuka Inaho as well. All those characters he created, he already knows their weaknesses, both physical and mental. I wouldn't be surprised if he could talk them into a mental breakdown.

That, or knowing Urobuchi's level of trollishness, assuming the first character to manifest is not one of his own, he would probably immediately retcon all his series by making an official statement that all his characters' powers will cease functioning and any weapon they pick up will misfire or otherwise malfunction any time they are in our world. So Homura shows up in our world, only to be unable to transform and if she does somehow get a gun, it will always jam.

In fact, if the authors in Re:Creators have any sense, they'll all do that.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

If Re:Creators' premise was to unfold in real life, I have my doubts Gen Urobuchi would survive a week. It's actually kinda funny to think of Akemi Homura, Sayaka Miki, Slaine Troyard, and various Psycho-Pass characters all threatening to kill him for his horrible misdeeds, ha ha!

It wouldn't even have to be that infamous an author. Most stories are about throwing some horrible problem at characters and seeing them cope.

The only ones who would be grateful to to their authors are some porn characters.

[Botan_TM]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

The only ones who would be grateful to to their authors are some porn characters.

And Sakamoto though.

[Laevatein]

Here's a more positive portrayal of a character meeting their creator. Of course, I doubt Spidey would be so happy to meet some of the people who came aftterward (*cough*JoeQuesada*cough*)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N9TIvIEnpA

[Laevatein]

Originally Posted by Laevatein

Here's a more positive portrayal of a character meeting their creator. Of course, I doubt Spidey would be so happy to meet some of the people who came aftterward (*cough*JoeQuesada*cough*)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N9TIvIEnpA

Of course, at least Dan DiDio got what was coming to him:

[nojay]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Most stories are about throwing some horrible problem at characters and seeing them cope.

Adventures are bad things happening to people you don't know personally a long way from where you're reading about/watching them.

The beginning was an interesting variation on a theme with Train-san acting as a stunt double for Truck-kun in this particular version of an isekai (parallel worlds) storyline. If the MC gets his sister back as a reward for collecting all the plot coupons I will be very cross.

[Key Board]

I know this show has been compared to Fate Stay Night
but half of Fate Stay Night was the Masters
It wasn't just a story about Servants

I do hope these fictional characters meet their creators and establish some kind of dynamic with them
If it's just a story about one Average Japanese Student™ and every single cute girls character that allies to him, that would be wasted potential

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

It wouldn't even have to be that infamous an author. Most stories are about throwing some horrible problem at characters and seeing them cope.

Good point. I went with Gen Urobuchi since he's arguably the most clear-cut example of an anime author who "throws horrible problems at characters" (but another notable name would likely be Yoshiyuki Tomino, especially in a version of Re;Creators that skewed mecha-heavy).

Just to be clear to Jimmy C and SPARTAN 119, my Urobuchi observation was a largely lighthearted one. I never really intended it as a super-serious point. Besides, I never said that I didn't think Urobuchi had a chance of surviving - Just that I had some doubts he would survive. Perhaps he could talk his way through the situation. In fact, it would be funny if Urobuchi won over his fictional creations by praising them up. He could say that he put them through horrible ordeals so they would be the most popular and inspirational of heroes. And such an argument would in fact be supported by the tremendous lasting popularity of Fate/Zero and Madoka Magica, and some of Urobuchi's other (partial) works to varying degrees.

All of the above being said, it definitely makes sense that some anime characters might not be that fond of their creators.

Originally Posted by Laevatein

Of course, at least Dan DiDio got what was coming to him:

Ha ha! Superboy Prime. One of the funnier DC villains for sure. It would be amusing if somebody in Re:Creators was to have or develop an ability comparable to Superboy Prime's Retcon Punch!

Originally Posted by Key Board

I do hope these fictional characters meet their creators and establish some kind of dynamic with them

I hope this happens to at least some degree. I hope it happens with at least a couple of the fictional characters.

[SPARTAN 119]

Don't worry, I wasn't being entirely serious either, if my "meanwhile in America" interlude didn't make that obvious.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

The only ones who would be grateful to to their authors are some porn characters.

When it comes to anime porn (aka. hentai), not really. Do you know how many hentai stories contain various kinds of rape to its (main or non-main) female characters? A lot

[blitz1/2]

Oh my gosh! I would LOVE to be in this series, with the various imouto fics that I planned! COME TO ME MY HAREM!!

[Jimmy C]

The key word being "planned" For every story that is actually written (or drawn, or recorded, you get the idea) ten thousand never get beyond the planning stage or even reach that far. It would be interesting to see if Re:Creators addresses that.
It might not, if "summoning" the characters requires interacting with the story material in some way. Stories that were never realized don't have anything for the summoner to interact with.

[bakato]

Does anyone else think Souta looks like a bespectacled, girlish Inaho? Especially, when he has that blank expression on his face.

[Anh_Minh]

Another question would be how they deal with multiple versions of a story. And retcons.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Another question would be how they deal with multiple versions of a story. And retcons.

It seems they are summoned by the white hair girl, if her words are to be believed. Then it depends on which branch did she summon, much like there are different versions of Shiro in Fate. By the flow of event it looks like she've summoned the anime version of Seletia.