Saint Seiya - The Lost Canvas

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Well... what made an Athena Exclamation so "taboo"

Spoiler for Athena Exclamation:

is the fact that it can be used by 3 Saints again one enemy... what is supposed to be coward, unfair, disgraceful. So... a mere door is not an enemy and in a way I understand why Shion or Sasha did not really hesitate. They just need raw power to destroy the door.
But yeah, that was a retarded way to introduce a technique that hold a such dramatic mean in the original Story for just a door.

Alba,

Spoiler for about Sasha beeing as dump as Saori:

I don't really agree with you about Sasha. She was about to end this war by herself and may have succeed if Pandora (whose dress is showing more and more skin) did not appear. She took the initiative and chose to strike.
Never Saori has acted like that. Still, that hair incident showed how naive she can be.... And it is a way for Shiori to show how she is reading religiously what Kurumada sama is doing since he is copying his newest ideas (That and Suikyo ).

[Albafica]

About Athena Exclamation, well I think the reputation of a knight is important. There are something like that in Samurai code no?
Sure Saints could use Athena Exclamation for every ennemy until Hades come ...
But I don't think this attack would work against Hades, he's too strong! At the begining of the manga, he could kill everyone no?

For Sasha/Saori:

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Well Saori wanted to end the war against hades too when she went to hell no? And She "killed" herself with Saga's dagger! In a certain way, Saori did a lot of things, but she's so boring. She used her blood to liberate Shun (the same technique used by Sasha against Alone in last chapters). She fought Hades with her cloth and killed him.

But what I really want to see is an awesome fight with Athena (with her cloth)! In Lost Canvas, Sasha didn't do much more than Saori in my opinion. But I think it's impossible; Shiori can't do something original (she take Suikyo, Athena cuts her hair, Athena's blood...). Well I think Sasha will do something at the end, with her cloth but why at the end! Hadès doesn't wait the end to kill some people , that bastard killed Hakurei!

Another thing, which is very annoying in Lost canvas, is the fanservice with females characters. She's a female autor, why she must make female character weak (except Violate perhaps...) and it seems they are only here for fan service (Sasha, Seraphina, Pandora, Yuzuriha, Violate for example). FMA autor doesn't need to make these sort of things...
A bit fanservice is OK but in last chapter, I think there are too much of this !?!? which can destroy some characters in my opinion... I hope the final battle of Yuzuriha will not be a "nude fight"...

A fanart of Lost Canvas by Afo2006:

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Well, don't forget that Sasha is Halone's sister. So thinking and trying to seal Hades' soul and trying to bring her brother back is not "that" fool...

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and she was about to succeed twice. And twice Pandora got in the way. She'd better deal with that b**ch in the first place actually.

Now she knows that there's no turning back and that Halone can't be brought back anymore. I think she will kill her brother herself. And I'm curious about what will happen to her next. We had already seen the birth and the raise of a new Athena, but never her last days. Maybe Teshi will make her story last enough to get that answer in Kurumada-sama's Next Dimension since she is unable to get fresh ideas by herself.

About females in Saint Seiya :

Spoiler for Lost Canvas and Episode G:

I had the same feeling about Episode G. At first I though that at last we would get strong female warriors with the Titanides. And yeah seeing Themis kicking two Saints at the same time in a very badassly way was very, very joyful.
BUT... it did not last long. If I quite understand what happened to her next (it was a very beautiful moment), Okada put her female Titans out of the way using a ridiculous plot device.
So Rhea, Theia, Thetys, Phoebe : game over... (so far ?)

Even Gaia supposed to be the real big boss of the story seems to be no more than a puppet in Pontos's hands (most evil vilain seen in Saint Seiya history).
Quite leaving me in despair, actually.

But in a way Okada twisted the "donzelle in distress" cliché since Lithos not only manage to escape by herself but... she managed to drag Cronos with her.
And Aiolos' former "girlfriend" may dig out the key to own Pontos. I mean, if Saga sent her back to Egypt, he my though that the answer is there and that she can discover it.

Violate was a very beautiful character. It's a shame that Shiori took THAT long to give to her specters a real will more than "I obey to Hades, I a vilain, that's all". In a way Aiakos was a very interesting one too.

[justavisitor]

Originally Posted by Blablabla

Spoiler for as usual:

and she was about to succeed twice. And twice Pandora got in the way. She'd better deal with that b**ch in the first place actually.

Now she knows that there's no turning back and that Halone can't be brought back anymore. I think she will kill her brother herself. And I'm curious about what will happen to her next. We had already seen the birth and the raise of a new Athena, but never her last days. Maybe Teshi will make her story last enough to get that answer in Kurumada-sama's Next Dimension since she is unable to get fresh ideas by herself.

The ending that I want in Lost Canvas:

Spoiler for Why do I need a spoiler?? Anyway::

Athena and the main hero live happily ever after!!! Others (Aries and Dohko) may think that both are dead, but actually, they become a couple and live elsewhere peacefully!!! Come on make it happen!!!

[Arturia Pendragon]

So far I think Sasha is more of an interesting character, she is not ALWAYS in need to be rescued... unlike Saori. She just made my blood boil at times.. that Saori.
Right now i am just having so many expectations on Defteros, I guess he waited for so long to show up just so he could fight the strongest warriors. It would be nice that what he does connects as to why Saga, in the modern era, is evil.

[Albafica]

Yeah, Sasha is not alway in need to be rescued, but why more interesting? Ok, Sasha is cute but that's all in my opinion! She didn't do anything more than Saori in Hades war, for now .

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Sasha is Alone's sister, ok; but it's only an excuse for Shiori, in my opinion! She can make some fight with Sasha! Well Sasha came and freed Sysiphe for example, but Saori did a "lot of things" too! I hate this character, but we can't say that she didn't do anything too: she saved Shun with her blood, she fought Hades and killed him, she committed suicide with Saga's dagger to come in Hell which is brave.

For now, I can't say Sasha is better than Saori. I prefer Sasha for sure, she looks cute; but I hope Shiori will give more time to Sasha! Why not a real fight with Sasha against specters or anything else? Hades came and killed Hakurei for example...
Females characters looks so weak... And with last chapters, it seems to be the same again: Athena's powers are sealed :/. Well you can say Violate was strong, but she lost against the genius , that's why I'm a bit sceptical... And like every female characters of Lost Canvas, Violate's fight had fan service (surplice broke so we can saw that she's a girl...). Violate's death was beautiful, and her relationship/link with Eaque was cool. I really want to know the story of Suikyo, but I think Shiori doesn't know how he became Suikyo because Kurumada doesn't do Suikyo's background yet... I love Eaque, he looks so cool, I hope he will help Saints and kill some specters (Kagaho/Rada ).

In my opinion, Shiori wait the end and Sasha will do something when she received her cloth like Saori, too bad....Except if Kurumada had a good idea in Next Dimension and give an idea for Shiori .

For the end, I really want to see why this war was called "the deadliest in Athena's battles history", so I don't want an happy end! But for sure, Shiori will do this... She could change the story and make Sasha/Tenma/Yuzuriha/Yato survive, it will not surpise me....

Oh and I wait DEUTEROXXXXX too . GALAXIAN EXPLOSION!!



Athena deserves more, in my opinion. She looks cool here, very serious...

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Seems that Deuteros has to wait a little longer... first spoilers are telling that the Tiger is to enter.

Spoiler for 145:

facing the pricks whose asses will be kicked by Shiryu 2 centuries later ? C'mon Teshi !
Anyway some Pandwhore action to be expected too

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Spoiler about chapter 145 (DEUTEROXXXXX ):

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We can see Deuterox, he looks cool . He said that Kagaho saved Dokho when he was pierced by Hades. It's him who took dokho to Kanon island.

Pandora seems mad lol. I like her back but why she became like that (I prefer the Pandora from Kurumada's manga).

Radamanthys is in berserk mode. We can see Valentine, Sylphide, Queen, Gordon.
And finally, it seems we will see a fight with Dokho .

Well, I wait a traduction , but it can be a "good" chapter...

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Pandwhore................... :facepalm:

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Well, I won't call it a fight actually. Remember that Shiryu stroke them with an unique blow that he learned from Dôko himself. It's more like a warming up that will be leading to the so expected round 2 between the Tiger and the Kagaoh. At last some serious bitching awesome fight that has been missing since... Rasgado vs Kagaoh

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Chapter 145 with traduction: I think Pornodora is OK here, because in last chapters, there are too much fan service on her (WHY! She was cool in firsts chapters). We saw her back, and there are no focus on her boobs .
I hope Shiori will do a good story for Pornodora like it was in Kurumada's manga.

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Basilisk have a good design in Lost Canvas .
It seems the berserk mode of Radamanthys is due to Hades blood. Well I always hate the return of Radamanthys. Shiori saw there are no more awesome specter like Minos/Eaque/Radamanthys, so Rada must come back; and Kardia's death seems so useless . Well, now Rada have a mega boost power up .

It seems we will see a final battle Dokho vs Kagaho. So Shion will kill somebody important? (perhaps news specters?)
Radamanthys vs Shion would be interesting and new, but I'm sure Shiori will do a Rada vs Deuteroxxx and a Shion vs Myu :/. Well it's not bad too...

About the fight Dokho vs Queen/Gordon, yeah he will do his attack and it will be finish fast . Very origina, Shiori!

I don't agree with you about awesome fight, i love Saga/Manigoldo vs Thanatos, Hakurei vs Hypnos, Radamanthys vs Kardia (well now i hate this fight because Rada is back!).

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This was not a "fight".... but a fuc***g epic threesome.
As for Shion...

Spoiler for 145 and further ?:

well, he's gonna strike the whole guardians crew until MKII Rhadamanthes who will face Deuteroxx. So in a way, forcing the path leading to the Boss. May be he will deal with Pr0ndora allowing Sasha and Tenma to focus on Alone. Not that bad, actually.

As for Pr0ndora I dunno if we need explanations. I mean she seems to be more or less Persephone, aka Hades' wife in the traditional Greek mythology. Explaining why she is SO devoted to him (in opposition, Pandora only cared about the part of her brother she saw in Shun (and she betrayed him after he left Shun's body).

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About Pornodora, well I liked her story in Kurumada's manga, so I hope she will have a good background (for saint seiya...of course ). She was kawaii in her flashback *__*, and her death is beautiful in my opinion. There are a lot of character who don't need explanations but I think it's interesting to have some flashback about the character.

For Shion (I hate him and Shiori! )

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I hope those guardians are awesome (and original)... If not, Shion will have boring battle.

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Well... hight range specters but below the Judges... not may be quite powerful.

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Expect to see a "Myu vs Shion". But as far as I remember, Mu did kick the Fairy's ass pretty hard and easily... so cake for Shion, I think.

I am more expecting a real battle from Rune actually. The Hokuto no Ken "You are already dead but you don't know it yet" that Kanon did on him didn't give respect to his rank and power. Maybe he will be the one to take Regulus down digging out a very deep and frightening secret.

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About future fights:

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I hope we will not see a Myu vs Aries again... Ho about Shion, I want to know: Can he use Starlight Extinction or not?
I think it's an original technique from Mu, but I'm not sure (this attack is awesome).

About Rune vs Kanon, I think it was a great "battle" . I love when Gold saints oneshot a specter like that, it's so cool: "Kanon the roxxor appears!" .
But I think, Rune will have a good role in Lost Canvas.

Hurry! I want to see Deuteroxxx!

"Pfff too easy, I oneshoted Rune and I'm so cool"

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Well, since he told Mu everything he knows, I think that he masters the Starlight Extinction as well.

Why he did not use it until now ? Maybe because that technique is quite something. It can be seen like the death of a massive star. First it unleashes great power, then becomes a "black hole" swallowing everything around. We have a good look of that part in EpG when Mu countered Titan Japet's "alternative space" attack with the Starlight Extinction (one of the coolest move I have ever seen in Saint Seiya...).

So with Athena around each time Shion had to strike (when he saved her and Tenma from Raimi, when he had to take the "renegade" Silver Saints and last week in that boat) I can't see him using such frightening technique.

"Pfff too easy, I oneshoted Rune and I'm so cool"

Ikki and Kanon having a "pfft look how I am cool with my eyes closed. I am Mister Badass" contest was quite something. Ridiculous but so funny.
None of the goldies seen in Lost Canvas has that kind of arrogance.

[Mau669]

What can i say, i love the lost canvas, the art is new and refreshing. I dont like the fact that the gold saints die so easily against the spectres but i guess this makes the spectres look stronger which kinda failed in the current series.

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Die 'so easily' ?! Oh com'on...

Spoiler for until 145:

- Albafica took down Minos with him and I think that he was more "vulnerable" since he tried to protect the Rodrigo village while fighting.
- Rasgado had an incredible fight against Kagaoh and defeated him (THIS is the fight I am waiting to see animated), he died while protecting Tenma even if he was still deeply wounded.
- El Cid stroke 4 gods. He got a little help from Syphus to build his finish blow but he still stood against them alone.
- Mani and Hakurei got Thanatos
- Degel sealed Poseidon's incarnation
- Syphus... Aiakos down, owned Pharaoh and, seriously wounded and with no heart left, managed to unleash an Athena Exclamation

Actually the only one who seems to have "failed" was Kardia since Rhadamanthes managed to get back to Hades... alive. But I dunno why, I'm quite expecting him to comeback....

Are left Genius, Shion and Dôko (who are to survive) and... Deuteroxx (can somebody really think that this guy is going to die easily ?)

So I don't agree with you. In the opposite Shiori is doing everything she can to make her so beloved Gold Saints as heroic and great as possible.

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In the video game of Saint Seiya Hades, Shion have Starlight Extinction/Stardust Revolution/Crystal Wall/Teleportation; but I don't know if it's a proof...
In the manga/anime, Mu have Crystal net too...
I always though that Stardust Revolution was the ultimate attack from Aries. Shion never used Starlight Extinction in Hades sanctuary...

About Kanon, I love these moments where characters from Saint Seiya close their eyes and say "pfff, you think you can kill me with this pathetic technique?" . Too bad, there aren't moments like that in Lost Canvas!
I hope Deuteroxx will be like that... but he doesn't seem to be arrogant but a bit mad (like Manigoldo).

And yeah, gold saints die fast... (except El Cid Capricorn, if he could die more faster, it would be a good arc ).

[Mau669]

lol youre right i guess what i shouldve said is that they died to quickly, the spectres are stronger in this version tho.
Im still waiting for dohko to do something memorable, he hasnt really done anything impressive yet

[Albafica]

Well, Dokho did nothing yet, Shion too :/. It seems we will see a fight between Kagaho and Dokho (they are "binded" since the begining of Lost Canvas), so we will see the memorable fight for Dokho, I think.

But Shion? Who will be his ennemy? Perhaps another new specter? Rune? :/

Shion and Dokho are so boring in Lost Canvas, especially Shion. They do nothing! And Shion's dialogues are so pathetic, too much "yeah Athena is good, you are mean oin oin"... Where is the charismatic character from Saint Seiya Hades!

I hate Shiori!!!