2010-06-28, 14:46 | Link #11983 |
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You'd be surprised. It takes a very large volume of a mass-produced plushie for it to be ubiquitous enough for everyone to remember seeing them. I have about twenty examples of mass-produced plushies that would be completely unknown for anyone outside the 300km range.
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2010-06-28, 14:50 | Link #11984 |
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I think that the person who knows where the gold is now and the person who wrote the numbers could be the same person. But, Kinzo could have written the notice in the tunnel to the gold and someone could have merely found his paint since then. Or perhaps he appointed someone to guard the gold in case of his death. I would say the chance the person knows where the gold is and put up the same account is one in the same is 70%.
I was thinking 0715=Battler and 1129=his sin or the date it was committed. I doubt that the number is just to an account, then the person would likely just be trying to alert people to how Kinzo's money was made. Unless, Nanjo is a fake trying to get the gold because Kinzo never paid him his money, aka the money in those safety deposit boxes. However, that would likely have nothing to do with Battler's sin. |
2010-06-28, 14:52 | Link #11985 | |
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IMO though the number writer should know about the safety deposit boxes that's a given. EDIT: Okonogi had a theory that Kinzo gave the answer to the riddle and the ring to Eva because he thought she would be a better choice for the head. I wonder if that actually has any merit. Or if it's a hint. Or if it's just him rambling.
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2010-06-28, 15:14 | Link #11986 |
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Well, for one we know with red that Kinzo could not have done this with his own hands, but it may be a hint that the answer to the riddle actually became a bargaining chip of sorts.
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2010-06-28, 15:20 | Link #11987 | |
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2010-06-28, 15:22 | Link #11988 | |
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2010-06-28, 15:24 | Link #11989 |
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Or I don't remember it, my memory is far from perfect. Giving a link to a previous post of yours so that it can be included in the discussion would be a bit more productive, if you ask me.
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2010-06-28, 15:36 | Link #11991 | |
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Back when I described this trick, I thought of the room swapping in hopes that it may allow us to somehow bypass the chain repairing trick. It doesn't. But it neatly explains how the red paint may instantly appear on a door without anybody lying.
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2010-06-28, 16:21 | Link #11993 | |
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How about this, we rearrange the number numerically to get 01112579. 0+1=1+1=2+5=7+9=16? Maybe 16 is a hint? If I count the order of from family head as 1 and down, counting Kinzo as family head, 16 would be Kanon. |
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2010-06-28, 16:32 | Link #11995 | |
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0+1=1+1=2+5=7+9=16 That way each number only appears once. But we may have something here. |
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2010-06-28, 16:37 | Link #11996 |
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yet... if the author of that red scribble intended to make someone think about rearranging the numbers in such way so to end with "16" which then should make them think about an unofficial ranking system where Kanon is 16th, and that should make them think that Kanon is the culprit or something...
seriously this author must have been incredibly optimistic....
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2010-06-28, 16:45 | Link #11997 |
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To rearrange something numerically does not take a genius. Then detecting a pattern like that one seems simple enough. Saying the 15 family members are the first 15 and Nanjo is above the servants as a guest, that would leave Kanon as 16. Otherwise, we would have Gohda as sixteen if you don't count Nanjo. If you don't count Kinzo then Kumasawa is 16.
This is far from perfect, but to me this some sense. And let's say the scribbler is optimistic, I would say Shanon is quite optimistic herself. |
2010-06-28, 16:47 | Link #11998 | |
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If someone put cash in those boxes, they very pointedly did not want anyone aware of the "transaction" to the recipient or his or her heirs.
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2010-06-28, 17:03 | Link #11999 |
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Not to get off topic, but I just noticed something. One thing we've been saying is that Maria dies when the epitaph is solved. Well I just noticed that from episode 4 Maria is given an umbrella by Kinzo and there is no mention of her receiving a letter from Beatrice,and the same thing happens with Erika in episode 5 (minus the umbrella) so there is no letter from EP4 and on. Rosa has died in the first twilight consistently since that first happened in episode 4. It probably doesn't make sense in the same way Maria's death does since it's not compatible with episode 1. But if you don't include episode 1 this seems like a valid first twilight condition for Rosa.
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2010-06-28, 17:07 | Link #12000 |
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Well, Maria's piece seemed to originally spread the legend of the witch. So, it would make sense that she is kept alive. However, if she is ever picked to 'die' by Beatrice then it would be a faked death.
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