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[Edit]Page claim for... That picture of Nanoha and Fate french kissing
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2009-01-24, 12:45 | Link #12042 |
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Thanks for the help Satashi and TSS
Event and Scroll of Vatican Knights 2 chapter 3 had been alredy fixed, currently working on chapter 4 to post it later
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2009-01-24, 12:52 | Link #12043 | |
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*or at least said; my knowledge of British English tends to die out around the 1950s. ...for Rick's purposes, though, that example should be pretty much ignored... |
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2009-01-24, 13:12 | Link #12044 |
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English is a stupid language. It's one of the few that don't have male-female specific spelling for words, and also it's, I think, only one that doesn't have a set formula for words.
like, in English you can say: The hat is red or The red hat but in other languages it's specifically either adj. after noun or noun after adj. You can't go either way.
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2009-01-24, 13:27 | Link #12045 |
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The two are used differently. The first is a complete sentence, the second is merely a noun phrase.
The second can be the subject of a sentence. eg. The red hat hung on a hook. You can't do that with the first. EDIT: What kind of gender specific words would you be referring to? We do have gender specific nouns, for example actor/actress. English does have set formulae for words. It has multiple formulae for each class of suffix or prefix, not to mention the rule-breaking irregulars. Last edited by Jimmy C; 2009-01-24 at 13:41. |
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And I don't know what you mean set formula as we do. Quote:
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2009-01-24, 14:45 | Link #12047 | |
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for gender specific, I was referring to words in spanish that end with "o" are generally masculine and "A" is feminine.
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2009-01-24, 15:06 | Link #12048 |
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There's quite a difference between your sentence and Jimmy_C's, the subject is different. The red hat is no longer the subject. Instead the hat that is hung on the rack is. The focus of Jimmy_C's sentence is the fact that the red hat is hung on the rack. The focus of yours is the redness of the hat. As fiction writers intention plays deeply into our choice of how to form sentences with every sentence we must ask ourselves what are we trying to tell the readers? Is the hat red or is the red hat hung?
http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/ar...e-position.htm http://www.perfectyourenglish.com/ar...e-position.htm Adjectives are interesting beasts indeed. You can't have a Beautiful she. But she can be beautiful. Spoiler for cause I was bored:
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2009-01-24, 15:11 | Link #12049 | |
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2009-01-24, 15:13 | Link #12050 | |
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2009-01-24, 15:27 | Link #12051 | |
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Since TSS explained this comprehensively, I'll skip it. I'd just want to point out that TSS didn't mention that the minimum you need to make this sentence grammatically correct is to put "that" before "hung", although he put it in his reply. Having "that" turns "hung on the rack" into a subclause of "the hat", so you can have another verb after that (your "is").
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This would have been better to use. Your sister can be older and can be an older sister but grammatically she can't be elder than you only your elder sister. |
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2009-01-24, 15:45 | Link #12053 | |
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Take Dutch, for example. The term 'neighbor' is translated into 'Buurman' literally translating to neighborman, and 'Buurvrouw' or neighborwomen. 'buurjongen' and 'buurmeisje' are used for younger neighbors, boy and girl respectively. Basic nouns are different, but also alter depending on their use in a sentence. Taking the red hat example: "The hat is red" translates to "De hoed is rood." 'rood' being translation for red. However, "A red hat" translates to "Een rode hoed." 'rood' here translates to 'rode' as it becomes part of the subject. |
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2009-01-24, 15:52 | Link #12054 | |
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People talk about the difficulty of English but there are points where English is mercifully simple. |
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2009-01-24, 15:58 | Link #12055 | |
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"I before E except after C." Neighbor, weight, science. AKA "Yeah we screwed up this language so we'll just keep adding things onto it and hope it all works out." Did you know that peas, like the food you eat, used to be singular and plural like "sheep" and "fish"? When America got the standard "s= plural", they created the word "Pea"
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2009-01-24, 16:05 | Link #12056 | |
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2009-01-24, 16:43 | Link #12057 |
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No doubts there. I'm curious what people have difficulty with when learning the language... I grew up reading English books, watching unsubbed or English subbed TV, and internet, so I kind of learned English naturally. I never really had a problem, or can't recall a problem, that you'd normally run into when learning a language myself.
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2009-01-24, 18:40 | Link #12058 | |
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English isn't my first language, and it might be inappropriate to compare it with eastern languages due to the difference in origin, but in my own experience, English does have a crud load of exceptions relatively speaking. For the avoidance of doubt, when I say 'exception' I don't mean 'flexibility' in creating a sentence in different ways. |
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