2008-03-27, 05:17 | Link #1221 |
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Very very nice series. It reminds me a lot of twelve kingdoms anime.
I like the happy ending. If one of them died, I would really feel sad. Even if one of those 7 elite hunters died, I would feel sad. So if any of them is miserable, this ending won't give me the happy ending that I wanted. I felt bad for the prince though when he died since he didn't get any character development or that much screen time. |
2008-03-28, 13:41 | Link #1225 |
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In the linked conversation, Sirabella mentions that the deal with CN was already negotiated before MediaBlasters picked up the license.
In Japan, Seirei no Moribito ran on Saturday mornings where it could reach an audience of children and perhaps their parents. If I were trying to reach that same mixed audience in the US, an early-evening slot would be ideal, but those times are filled with the usual CN kids fare that parents probably never pay attention to. If it ends up on [adult swim], it won't look much like the shows they carry now. I'll be curious to see how it does with an audience more accustomed to watching explosions that watching people live in a cave. Of course, airing in [adult swim] pretty much guarantees that Seirei won't have the potential to broaden the audience. I wanted to see this show appear on something like HBO or perhaps even Oxygen, channels with broader audiences and a higher cachet of quality than Cartoon Network. I thought SnM was one of the first shows I've seen that stood some chance of introducing anime to a more mainstream American audience. Showing it on CN almost guarantees it'll be written off as just another "cartoon."
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2008-03-28, 22:57 | Link #1226 | |
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I wish the Scifi channel, or IFC had picked this up instead. Over the last year of two I have come to hate those idiots that run the program scheduling at CN.
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2008-03-28, 23:00 | Link #1227 |
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I'd have voted for IFC, too. It's not really a "sci-fi" show.
I just wish some of the womens' networks in the US like Oxygen or Lifetime would recognize the potential of the feminist animes. There's a whole bunch of shows like Seirei that might resonate with younger women.
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2008-03-29, 08:19 | Link #1228 |
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I contest that Seirei no Moribito was a feminist anime.
At no point in time were they sending a message that women in general were better than/worse than/equal to men. They weren't making ANY point about women in general, only Barsa in particular. And Barsa is so different from any woman in the series that some might even make another conclusion altogether: she is strong because she is special in her own way, not because she is a woman. She is an exception, not a rule. |
2008-03-29, 08:59 | Link #1229 | |
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She is not an exception but an example when females are placed into extreme positions. |
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2008-03-29, 09:32 | Link #1230 |
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Barsa persevered when put under the test of upholding an oath to a stranger.
Jiguro persevered when put under the test of conflicting friendships. Thus, their perseverance was an example of the effects of upbrining and personal character, not of gender. Barsa has a strong character because she was brought up in this manner, not because she is female. In fact, her womanhood plays no role here. Contrast Barsa with timid Saya, or weepy Empress. Are their characters sending any messages about womanhood? They've been under no less severe stress than Barsa, yet their reactions to it were quite different. Thus, I am telling you that Seirei no Moribito isn't trying to say anything about women and womanhood, but rather about particular characters and how their upbringing and personality have affected them in the time of crisis. |
2008-03-29, 09:41 | Link #1231 | |
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I agree on it is not about gender but I do not think Balsa was an exception but was placed into extreme conditions which many female may follow her path if placed into the same situation. |
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2008-03-29, 09:43 | Link #1232 |
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You are drawing extreme conclusions from simple events. Balsa isn't portrait as any exception of extreme positions she just shows it can be so. The show points at some point how women (in general) can't be as strong as men because of the difference in muscle mass and structure, which is a fair explanation.
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2008-03-29, 09:46 | Link #1233 | |
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2008-03-29, 09:54 | Link #1234 | |
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If that is not an extreme position I do not know what is. |
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2008-03-29, 10:09 | Link #1236 | |
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Also, Tanda repeatedly notes that Balsa is very much a tomboy and decidedly not feminine. Warriors of any kind tend not to be women, so I would argue that Balsa isn't exactly a representative for women. Though I suppose that could very well be a part of the gender typing message of the show.
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2008-03-29, 15:55 | Link #1237 |
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While I don't think that Seirei no Moribito is that much of a feminist anime, I do think that it somewhat subverts gender positions that are usually common or expected within the family. In the anime, Balsa arguably raises Chagum more like a father in a typical story would have, showing the him world and protecting him from harm, whereas Tanda plays the role of the nurturing mother.
That scene of Balsa acting out a father-to-son custom of handing over a sword is still pretty clear in my mind, and I think it's pretty interesting. However, MrProphet's point is also true for the anime. Balsa is the exception of the series, not the norm due to her circumstances. (Or perhaps, is that the point?) Beyond Balsa's life, the whole setting is still a very patriarchal one. |
2008-03-29, 19:47 | Link #1238 | |
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2008-04-07, 14:41 | Link #1240 | |
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