(L) Shokugeki no Soma [Manga]

[ninjastarforcex]

this arc is beyond boring man

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by GDB

Because this is manga and not real life. Central is just an obstacle for the main characters to overcome, not an all powerful evil force with proper motivations and plans.

So you like this arc? Or maybe just because this is manga, not a real life so we shouldn't talk how unrealistic and foolish their plans were?

[NAJ P. Jackson]

Watch as the Author rushes this arc because SnS fell in rank as fans got bored. He really should refrain from making over-the-top villains/plot. It hurts the story.

[Nvis]

Erina-sensei so awesome!

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Sixth

So you like this arc? Or maybe because this is manga, not a real life so we shouldn't talk how unrealistic and foolish their plans were?

God no. But it's been made abundantly clear that Central could have done many things to get rid of the "rebels" that they choose not to do, because this is a story that can't have those things happen. It's the same as when Souma would wager getting expelled early on. You knew it wouldn't happen because he's the main character. Same thing here.

Hell, if Central really wanted to get rid of the rebels... just get rid of them. It's a private school, so admittance isn't a right. Just refund their money and any boarding/travel expenses and boom, they're gone. But again, that's not how a shounen series works.

[DragonOsman]

^Exactly. If they really did what they really can do kick them out of Tootsuki, there wouldn't be a plot left in this manga. We need to keep this mind. It's plot-induced-stupidity, yes, but it's something we'll have to think of as a necessary evil.

Anyway, yeah, I just read chapter a bit before making this post. I have to say that I'm really forward to the looks on all these Central lackeys' faces when the rebels foil all of their so-called "plans" and pass the exams entirely. And speaking of plans, the one who came with the plan used this chapter was the examiner from the first test. That old hag.

I loved that Souma called Central's plans "children's mischief". Well said, Souma, well said.

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by NAJ P. Jackson

Watch as the Author rushes this arc because SnS fell in rank as fans got bored. He really should refrain from making over-the-top villains/plot. It hurts the story.

Bad time to say that when the manga has been ranking top 5 this Summer. This week it got 1st place.

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, I did think it was something like that. We shouldn't make assumptions about what Japan thinks of this, since the Japanese people seem to have slightly different tastes compared to the Western readership.

[Homura7]

Or rather, they aren't taken this as seriously as many in this thread are. Maybe they even like it and all. In fact, though Central are a buch of clowns in my eyes, I'm glad the story started to focus on more than just cooking matches, and in turn said developments served to finally start developing Erina's character and her relationship with Souma.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

^Exactly. If they really did what they really can do kick them out of Tootsuki, there wouldn't be a plot left in this manga. We need to keep this mind. It's plot-induced-stupidity, yes, but it's something we'll have to think of as a necessary evil.

Well, there is always have some kind of artificial rule implemented in the story/fiction to prevent the bad guys from completely removing the main character and his friends efficiently which I can't find in this manga.

For example:
Azami: I want to expel the rebels immediately for disagree with me.
Advisor: You can't.
Azami: Why?
Advisor: Those rebels were actually favorite students of the education minister (because they cook delicious food for him in previous arcs). Expelling them without a valid reason might cause unfavourable commotion for our side. Worst case, you may be the one who get suspended as the headmaster of this school if the investigation was held by the minister.
Azami: I see, so does this means I can't get rid of these rebels directly except failing them in the exam?
Advisor: ...Yes...

Current Shokugeki No Soma:
Azami: I want to expel the rebels immediately for disagree with me.
Advisor: Ok, want me to send the expulsion letters directly to them?
Azami: LOL No, we can't do that. We can only expel them by making them fail the exam.
Advisor: No, seriously, we can just send the letters to them NOW.
Azami: Nope. We can hide the ingredients from them, so they cannot cook.
Advisor: Must we stoop this low?

[GDB]

To be fair, it works both ways. Azami's crew is being silly with their antics, but Souma's crew is being silly with thinking they actually have any means by which to take down the Azami institution. While this long arc has been great for character development, it's been one of the most poorly written plots I've seen in a long time.

[Log]

Are we seriously going to spend more chapters on these retarded attempts to kick out Souma and co. Ugh what's even the point of the past chapter.

Originally Posted by Alpha Knight

Bad time to say that when the manga has been ranking top 5 this Summer. This week it got 1st place.

Japanese people love Erina which is a major reason for the raise in rankings.

Originally Posted by Sixth

Well, there is always have some kind of artificial rule implemented in the story/fiction to prevent the bad guys from completely removing the main character and his friends efficiently which I can't find in this manga.

For example:
Azami: I want to expel the rebels immediately for disagree with me.
Advisor: You can't.
Azami: Why?
Advisor: Those rebels were actually favorite students of the education minister (because they cook delicious food for him in previous arcs). Expelling them without a valid reason might cause unfavourable commotion for our side. Worst case, you may be the one who get suspended as the headmaster of this school if the investigation was held by the minister.
Azami: I see, so does this means I can't get rid of these rebels directly except failing them in the exam?
Advisor: ...Yes...

Current Shokugeki No Soma:
Azami: I want to expel the rebels immediately for disagree with me.
Advisor: Ok, want me to send the expulsion letters directly to them?
Azami: LOL No, we can't do that. We can only expel them by making them fail the exam.
Advisor: No, seriously, we can just send the letters to them NOW.
Azami: Nope. We can hide the ingredients from them, so they cannot cook.
Advisor: Must we stoop this low?

I'm actually confused on why the examiner doesn't just lie to kick Souma and co out. Like if the examiner is willing to go so far to compromise the fairness of the exam to this extent surely they can lie about how good the food tastes. Or alternatively if the current examiners can't lie about it because of pride or whatever dumb reason, surely Azami can found someone that can lie.

Originally Posted by GDB

To be fair, it works both ways. Azami's crew is being silly with their antics, but Souma's crew is being silly with thinking they actually have any means by which to take down the Azami institution. While this long arc has been great for character development, it's been one of the most poorly written plots I've seen in a long time.

Did they actually think or state that outside of all agreeing to oppose Azami's ways? Also there's no actual harm in thinking like that, everybody thinks unrealistic things, in the end it's your actions that define you.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by GDB

To be fair, it works both ways. Azami's crew is being silly with their antics, but Souma's crew is being silly with thinking they actually have any means by which to take down the Azami institution. While this long arc has been great for character development, it's been one of the most poorly written plots I've seen in a long time.

I am pretty sure that Soma and PSD have no intention to bring down the institution. They still want to continue study at Tootsuki. They were still attending CENTRAL's course on regular basis. It is just CENTRAL chose to forsaken them because of their childish goal.

If anything, Soma and PSD were simply protecting themselves from the CENTRAL's harassment.

Also, this is what going to happen during CENTRAL meeting.

Spoiler for Central Meeting:

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Sixth

I am pretty sure that Soma and PSD have no intention to bring down the institution. They still want to continue study at Tootsuki. They were still attending CENTRAL's course on regular basis. It is just CENTRAL chose to forsaken them because of their childish goal.

If anything, Soma and PSD were simply protecting themselves from the CENTRAL's harassment.

Also, this is what going to happen during CENTRAL meeting.

Spoiler for Central Meeting:

Eventually,Central will be brought down by their own silliness.Every time they are trying to expel the kids with silly tricks,they are just discrediting themselves.The whole point of central's getting silly and ridiculous.The thing about cuisines is that if everyone's doing the same thing,the people who's food are most unique will eventually win out.People want to be thrilled,not to taste the same thing over and over again.Tootsuki has links to a lot of institutions in the food industry.Eventually,a lot of these organizations will cut their links with Tootsuki after Azami has been thoroughly discredited.The silliest thing about Azami is that he claims to be bringing the best in cuisine,but all he's doing so far is to cut out the best and simply just handpick people who follows him.

Originally Posted by GDB

Because this is manga and not real life. Central is just an obstacle for the main characters to overcome, not an all powerful evil force with proper motivations and plans.

The surreal nature of this arc is making the manga boring.

[Krono]

Just a reminder that the first chapter featured a land shark attempting to pressure them into selling the store. Said land shark was fine with breaking and entering, and vandalism.

But lying and saying that Souma's food was bad after tasting it to secure an agreement to close down was something the land shark and their minions were simply unable to do.

For that matter, I'm pretty sure that only Erina's been able to lie and say food tasted bad after eating it.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by GDB

To be fair, it works both ways. Azami's crew is being silly with their antics, but Souma's crew is being silly with thinking they actually have any means by which to take down the Azami institution.

All they need is six of the Elite Ten seats.

[DragonOsman]

Originally Posted by Sixth

I am pretty sure that Soma and PSD have no intention to bring down the institution. They still want to continue study at Tootsuki. They were still attending CENTRAL's course on regular basis. It is just CENTRAL chose to forsaken them because of their childish goal.

If anything, Soma and PSD were simply protecting themselves from the CENTRAL's harassment.

Also, this is what going to happen during CENTRAL meeting.

Spoiler for Central Meeting:

They're opposing Azami's ways. His ways themselves are bad and will ruin Tootsuki. Souma himself may not be thinking along those lines (unfortunately), but the adults who go against Azami actually do think that way. Like Gin or Jouichirou. Souma probably just hates that he's being forced to cook the same dishes as Central without doing innovations of his own, plus he hated what Eishi said about tearing down all restaurants except those that follow Central's ideals.

But yeah, I guess it's true that they don't give a good enough reason in-story for why Azami can't just kick them out or let the judges lie about the taste of the food. [Well, actually, the rigged Shokugekis for taking down the Research Societies and Seminars were like that. The judges were bribed into not being impartial. Isshiki had to submit those rules for the Shokugekis. So maybe that made it extent to expulsion itself as well, and they can't just kick them out without failing them via the exams?]

Anh_Minh: Yeah, but how're they going to get those six seats as things stand currently? The entire Elite 10, aside from Erina, are on Azami's side, after all.

@Krono: True, that.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

All they need is six of the Elite Ten seats.

The seats that have already been shown can be removed by a whim and "vote" of the other corrupt members + Azami?

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by GDB

The seats that have already been shown can be removed by a whim and "vote" of the other corrupt members + Azami?

Yeah, so they have to arrange to win them all at one time and remove everyone as soon as they have them.

[GDB]

I'd prefer something that doesn't require even further plot induced stupidity from Central. They already feel dangerously close to being glue eaters. Don't make it worse.