2010-04-05, 19:20 | Link #13483 |
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FriedRice84, if I remmeber it was listed as an intersting but also doubtful case, not to mention that TV tropes are edited by anyone. I can easily go and edit those myself now.... You should never use TV Tropes as a reliable source you know...
At first almost everyone denied Moka being a true tsundere, but with Inner Moka acting more dere she is indeed a true tsundere but rather than because Outer Inner Moke changes it is based on the Inner Moka alone. |
2010-04-05, 19:55 | Link #13484 |
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Aye, TV Tropes isn't exactly a reliable source. Still interesting if what it says about CH29 is true though...
How long does it usually take from a raw being released to a translation being done?
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2010-04-05, 20:41 | Link #13485 |
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Of course some of the father's part will be taken for account.
Isn't the seal also part of Inner Moka's training? Also I wonder if she'll(Inner Moka) will end up like the anime version after the Tsun-Tsun is out of the way. Also Iam glad here that Tsukune did not go emo when Outer was gone.
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2010-04-05, 21:43 | Link #13486 |
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Please don't remind me of anime ending x_x
If author will do the same thing in manga, I swear I'll kill someone. Tsukune treated inner Moka really bad! what he did was far worse then if he would choose her sister instead. I still want to kick out the daylights out of anime Tsukune. Also I still keep seeing Outer and Inner Moka as two separate beings, more like sisters trapped in one body or something.
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I guess the reason we disagree is because you've said that you think Omote is not the true Moka while I believe that Omote is part of the true Moka. What I mean is that Omote represents parts of Ura-chan's personality that is hidden under her power, her pride, and her nature. My belief is just a theory but we'll find out soon enough where Omote came from. |
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2010-04-05, 22:12 | Link #13488 | |
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Also that art of Mizore was on season1 when she first cut her hair her character design is still on development back then. The later Tsurara and Mizore looked more similar to each other.
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2010-04-06, 00:32 | Link #13489 | ||
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On the discussion about Outer Moka being real or not ... well I think she is a part of Moka that was given a consciousness by the power of Moka's Rosario. I think that many people might get confused on this topic ... because with the Rosario gone ... Outer Moka seems to be gone as well, though she is still present inside Moka, shown by having a awareness of what her other half is doing. So what I think taking of the Rosario does ... is just causing both personalities of Moka to switch places ... without the Rosario Inner Moka becomes the dominant personality and when the seal returns to it's place Outer Moka becomes the dominant personality again. It also explains what happened in the recent chapter's as well .... after Moka's seal became weaker, it caused the same reaction as when Tsukune takes off the Rosario with Inner Moka becoming the dominant personality and Outer Moka being "sealed" inside her. All of this basically means that when the two personalities of Moka ... decide to fuse together, it will in my opinion cause Moka's personality to return to how it was, before the Rosario came into the picture. |
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2010-04-06, 00:59 | Link #13490 |
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That's very possible, but has anyone considered that the collar itself could also be part of the seal as well?
Think about it, the part when Moka had nearly broke the collar seemed to have dealt a heavy blow to the seal's construction and probably is the root of the failure in the first place, and having it off for the day just aggravated the failure to make it happen faster. You'll also notice that the WAY it was pulled apart might have had an impact on whether the seal could even BE repaired the first time. Like those pearls on there could be a stabilizer for the seal, and if the string they reside on broke, and Moka failed to recover all the pearls, it could have prevented her seal from being fixed at all. Fortunately that wasn't the case and the string was intact and only the rivet pulled loose from the collar and the chain-plate pad, but still left all the pearls on the string to be put back into place during the repair. Even the order of each pearl could have an effect as well, but that's going into the nitty gritty of the construction of the seal itself. If anything, those could have an even greater a role on the seal than even what I've stated so far, so we we'll see once they go into greater detail about that.
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2010-04-06, 01:22 | Link #13491 | |
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2010-04-06, 01:27 | Link #13492 |
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Sorry, new here...
Read what I could of ch 29 in Japanese and from what I can tell, there's no mention of Moka's mother being human. Of course, some of the text is obscured in the raws so I might be missing something big. Spoiler for Other stuff from ch29:
Nothing like a newbie showing up to ruin the party, eh? Anyway, carry on. I love this series and this is the most active board I've seen actually discussing the series. |
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2010-04-06, 03:24 | Link #13495 | |
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I mean ... as I'm sure you noticed GrrDraxin that while Tsukune has become quite a formidable opponent he's nowhere near the level of a vampire ... who like Moka has been trained in using their vampire abilities from their birth. So we should expect some rapid development in his case ... to bring him closer to that level. Spoiler for Chapter 29 spoiler's:
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2010-04-06, 03:26 | Link #13496 | |
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2010-04-06, 03:42 | Link #13497 | |
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Well, truth be told I have a hard time imaging what a merged Moka's personality is going to be like ... I quite agree that the fused Moka is probably going to act similarly to Inner Moka and show the Outer Moka aspects of her personality only to certain people that are important to her (Tsukune) ... well it's kind of hard to imagine how the fused Moka is going to behave, but I definitely agree that it will have to be a little different then how Moka is acting now ... with two personalities inside her. |
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2010-04-06, 05:35 | Link #13498 |
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Going to be interesting it seems. Also am I the only one who thinks Kokoa will side wiith Moka and the gang regardless of where the Shuzen family may be officially aligned, she has too much love and respect for I.Moka and it sounds like she never saw eye to eye with much of the family.
Also if the whole mum/human thing is sorted by the translation, if I remember Ill go edit TT's so it doesnt confuse the issue. Hopefully the translation is done soon.
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2010-04-06, 06:16 | Link #13500 | |
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