2022-06-21, 07:02 | Link #1343 | |
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Simply being able to access the form means he's in the right state of mind. He wouldn't be able to transform otherwise, that was made clear in the Moro arc. And I'm not sure where the ability to create barrier and telekinesis come from. He used telekinesis against Broly but there was no explanation. Of course, it's not like the first time Goku pulls an ability out of his ass: there was him reading Krillin's mind when he arrived on Namek, and him seeing everything that happened while he was bedridden in the Android saga in a "dream".
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2022-06-21, 07:03 | Link #1344 |
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I don't think that's the usual Omen form anyway. It says it's his "own" Ultra Instinct, after all. Omen also doesn't come with that barrier ability he used earlier, does it?
Goku and Vegeta have found their own answers. That's also what the chapter title's talking about. Also Goku said his mind isn't calm right now which is why he can't use the white haired form.
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2022-06-21, 07:10 | Link #1345 | |
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And he was using MUI just fine earlier. The form he's using is definitely Omen, he chose it because it's the strongest form he can use UI in without getting rid of his emotions. We're just supposed to believe his emotions are enough to close that massive gap.
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2022-06-21, 20:04 | Link #1346 | |
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2022-06-21, 21:23 | Link #1347 |
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The wrote themselves into a corner by giving Goku MUI at will in the Moro arc, and they've been flailing around with this entire arc because of how little room they are left to work it. The whole thing is a complete mess and just reinforces my believe that Vegeta should have defeated Moro with his Spirit Fission technique.
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2022-06-22, 11:36 | Link #1348 |
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I think its okie.
DB or any shounien for that matter, has always been about powering up via emotion. Goku, from the bardock recording, realise that his saiyan root is the joy of battle and wining and that's the source of their strength. SO he found this magical sweet spot to fusion Saiyan emotion and UI, which is this UI modified. like all fusion, its a multiplier and so his stronger now. |
2022-06-22, 11:37 | Link #1349 |
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I guess it just won't sit right with them if they don't have Vegeta job at the end in every single arc in Super. It sucks, but it is what it is.
Edit: One post late. @azenable: That's a pretty good point, actually.
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2022-06-23, 19:38 | Link #1350 |
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It'd be a better point if they hadn't specified repeatedly that you cannot use emotions with UI, regardless of version. Or explained even a slight bit how you can just "realize" how to combine things like this to make them stronger, especially considering the former point.
It's like saying salad is healthy, but you really like cake, so you'll just combine salad and cake and get a super healthy, super tasty meal. It just doesn't work that way. |
2022-06-28, 23:57 | Link #1351 | |
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2022-06-30, 09:29 | Link #1353 |
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Well, if something, Goku firing a mouth beam was cool. I love mouth beam. Cool looking, like a dragon breath, but you need to be careful, otherwise you are gonna end up as Recoome or that other dude in Slug movie.
Aside of that, I don't know how to feel about this just be yourself power-up except I can wait for this shit arc to end. |
2022-06-30, 11:35 | Link #1354 | |
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Or could just go stacking color on color like Kaio-ken blue. Just stack that into ultra instinct. |
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2022-07-01, 07:30 | Link #1359 |
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Super has Vegeta. GT has Pan.
Either way, feels like Dragon Ball won't run out of Super Saiyan transformation at this point it's like SSB (SSGSS) is attained by putting the power of SSG into SSJ. Eventually Goku & Vegeta will put UI & UE into SSJ and become some kind of new SSJ. Hell lets be indecisive on Gohan again, and make it that he can put his potential unleashed into SSj. |
2022-07-01, 18:28 | Link #1360 |
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What is that supposed to mean? Vegeta is great in Super despite his constant jobbing, and Pan was awful in GT. The way they handled Pan is probably GT's biggest crime, she was all set to become a fighter at the end of the manga and then she just turns into a weak spoiled brat.
As for Gohan, you might want to read Super Hero spoilers.
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