2010-01-03, 16:41 | Link #1361 |
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I see. The world is kind of weird. I guess part of the world lives semi-normally. I mean, Touma's family all knew about Academy City, so the world of espers must not be a secret to everyone else (science). I guess the magic society is more hidden in parts of the world, but the esper society is not?
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2010-01-04, 04:37 | Link #1362 |
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The esper's aren't really that local or public to all. When index meet touma she didn't believe it and like touma he didn't believe in magic. Its just that a man of science is a man of science and like magic. They didn't interact with each other.
The esper are public to japan. Being a advance city where your children will be turned into espers. BUT their is no other facility like it. Its the only one in the world. Even if its localized if its only one and not many are okay with it. Turning your child into biological weapons. As for magic. They tend to be a little secretive. Working like the hands of god. Doing their mission in a bit secretive way. But they are all known to be workers of god. I'm not sure if everyone knows that they are also mages. As for espers are rare the city trained you to become one. And the people who can't become an esper leads to magic. |
2010-01-04, 19:17 | Link #1364 | |
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Since Touma got involved with the magic side a lot and is taking care of Index he is considered for some organizations a menace to the balance between the magic and the science but for me he is one who protects it with his actions. |
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2010-01-04, 20:47 | Link #1365 | |
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After the the Index incidente he is the same as us wondering how in the hell he got that sort of power |
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2010-01-05, 07:35 | Link #1366 | |
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My turn to speculate some crack-theory, here's an idea- Assuming Touma has an Esper power that is being supressed by his Imagine Breaker, which is a Divine power and probably this Holy Stone that Fiamma is looking for, then the only way to see this power is by removing Imagine Breaker... ... Which would mean cutting off his right hand, something that did actually happen. Could it be that the Dragon that appeared from his bloody limp be a portion of his Esper power? Perhaps it's this power that is more dangerous than a Level 5, rather than Imagine Breaker? An interesting trivia for those people who speculated that Touma might be a fallen angel, Lucifer was sometimes refered to as the [Dragon] (Among other things).
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2010-01-05, 11:50 | Link #1367 |
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we are sure that touma had imagine breaker from his birth since his father was saying how unlucky he was
maybe he was already an esper from birth like accelarator i dont think he will have double powers so my gues is that imagine breaker cancelled the effects of the machine (since it creates supernatural effects on people)
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2010-01-05, 14:33 | Link #1368 |
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mikoto is an esper since birth too. She's been level 1 since back then and only difference is I think accelerator is level 5 since child and touma since birth had the holy stone inside his fist.
Is it a divine gift or a punishment? or just a plain balances the world or guardian of time and space. Isn't the dragon the result of aurelious mental break down and pissing his pants due to touma's over the limit scary face? The dragon or rather the one who made it is aurelious himself. And scrapping the right arm is not a good idea. That would attract more girls on his side. I mean just thinking of his pity state. the girls would want to protect him but still the guy ended up being a shield but this time his toast if he doesn't have his IB and that will totally result on good ending. We got to see a burial of a hero with only GIRLS as the visitor ( styl and the other are to minor you wouldn't get to see them in the crowd ) |
2010-01-05, 17:55 | Link #1369 |
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actually the whole izzard thing was wierd i mean we arent sure if IMB was still in use after he lost his arm or if it was izzard that was doing it
about i dont think IMB has anything to do with time and space divine gift isnt since it cancels the blessings of god if it was used in christianity long ago that means something happened and they dont have it now perhaps something that would make people panic about it so they kept it a secret for centuries balancing the World i dont think so i mean aleistar said its dangerous i think there is more to IMB than just cancelling supernatural effects
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2010-01-05, 19:17 | Link #1370 |
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Izzard is doing it. His though is soooo messed up that his delusions are getting destroyed by himself. Its just like when your on the verge of mental break down.
I mean just imagine it. You slice a person's hand and his still ecstatic with it. Laughing it out loud. Any sane person will turn insane in that kind of situation. And I think in the anime. The way they show how it happen is been downsize like what happen to styl. I heard it that he exploded and turn into stars. And IB has nothing to do with time and space. Its just fun and a good add on. Don't take it seriously. And if you ask me the real nature of IB is it cancels all out. It just turn up to that touma still considers the things around him real. What if he starts thinking that the world around him is also just an illusion. Then the IB will start erasing it. And if IB works just like an esper ability which turns your illusions into reality. Then the canceling out the supernatural phenomenon is just what touma still thinks. The thing that proves it is because it can't cancel out the world itself or the ryumaku where the souls return or gather and I'm not sure myself but I think its the thing that surrounds the world. Guiding the living and dying through cycle of rebirth and death. ( not sure of what I'm babbling about ) Too me that's a illusions. But touma doesn't cancels it out so it safe to say. He still believes it as a part of the world but what if he start canceling even it. Then what touma thinks of the world? WHAT DOES HE VALUE AND STILL THINKS AS HIS REALITY OR RATHER EVERYONE'S REALTY >< ? |
2010-01-05, 19:20 | Link #1371 | |
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Accelerator has the curse of the strongest since his chilhood he already had the power with no idea about it. Touma has the curse of the bad luck thanks lack of knowledge about his hand. That was the opinion of Styl. Is true that Aureolus called him Touma a monster but a dragon? its questionable. |
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2010-01-05, 19:24 | Link #1372 |
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They show it when she was just a child that she has the power of a level 1 but even so the scientist still took a liking to her. Their couldn't be just one electro master to begin with. But why her? is she special. She's just a level 1 and their could be stronger one than her. Then why use her for the radio system. So it could be safe to assume that since birth mikoto has the ability to do it.
Being born with the ability gives you a label of special. Well dragon is scary and touma is scary ( if your a guy ). |
2010-01-05, 19:25 | Link #1373 | |
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2010-01-05, 19:33 | Link #1374 |
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Well losing his memories has a good side effect. It means he will lose all of his sad past. And what if their is a secret to his past. That has been kept a secret. And thanks to memory destruction he doesn't remember it anymore.
And in those sad past. The magic side or science side is involve. But since he meet index and he didn't believe in magic it safe to say. That he doesn't know magic but what if he didn't see it as magic or rather what if their is a sad past that occur but the cause is unknown and the roots are on magic or science. If he has his memories or rather just an amnesia. Even if he sees a familiar being or rather a familiar scene. It wouldn't trigger a the sad past that had been kept secret. But thanks to memory destruction those options are canceled out. Sad past are sad pat and it what makes us now. But he has no past or what so ever due to memory destruction. So I think his present is ZERO > < with it his way of thinking is just what he could see or experience from their on and the past wouldn't be a do a thing. |
2010-01-05, 19:40 | Link #1375 |
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Honestly tsunade666 I think your theories are a bit too speculative. I mean, with how inconsistent the author or Index has been so far, its quite possible it could go that way, but I *think* the series becomes more consistent later on (anyone who's read ahead can verify?)
Just watching the anime raised so many exceptions to the rules that I began to think it was as bad as some parts of bleach/naruto. Hopefully it gets better. Also, I'm pretty sure his past is pretty well established by the arc with his dad. |
2010-01-05, 19:45 | Link #1376 | |
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Didn't he said it doesn't matter if he has new happy memories waiting in the future? |
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2010-01-05, 20:24 | Link #1377 |
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I know because I'm speculating or even guessing could be used. And also I know that it get consisted because I read it but its just too plain to forgot your pass without some cliche thing. Even if he doesn't care for his past well I care for what happen in his past. Maybe it has some clues on the true nature of the imagine breaker. And when did he had the idea that he could cancel out the ability of the others. Did he get into a fight with an ability user then ended up canceling it? But when did it happen. Is is by the time his in the academy city already? touma is the type that always ended up with a trouble or fight that's why his a delinquent but what if he discover it before he even enter academy city. And the reason he entered it to begin with is because his parents think it could help him with his luck but look at what he ended up now. Does his parents prove of this and I think they know it but to be leaving it to their own son to judge it. Well I think they care but what's the point. The guy nearly got himself killed a tons of time. Does in the past it always happen that lead to the point that his parents are used to it. Or rather the last thing about them is in daihaseisa and side story. On the current plot I don't know if they even know their son had gone abroad. Battling wars that he shouldn't be involved with.
The roots for me are important very important. And like I said it could be very speculative maybe because I'm doing it now. Deducing what could happen may lead to the right conclusion but with few clues that had been left and more importantly the guy is oblivious of his past or rather he doesn't care anymore. Well its up to him to do what he wants too. |
2010-01-05, 20:46 | Link #1378 | |
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The natural born esper are called the "Genseki(gemstone)". There are only almost 50 of them all around the world Their powers are really strange compare to the academy city's esper and hard to be called as esper power such as IB and Deepblood The gemstones who appear in the story are Kamijou Touma,Himegami Aisa,Soigita Gunha. |
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2010-01-05, 21:24 | Link #1380 | |
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I thought Aleister revealed that IB is not an esper power, so Touma's IB should not make him a "gemstone" if he's not an esper at all. (If he is, we have yet to see) And a question: how did you find that out? Which character reveals that? Last edited by babohtea; 2010-01-05 at 22:20. |
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