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Last Sinner · 2021-06-14, 08:49

Maybe there really is hope the finale can pull things together given they have one hour. That said, they have no excuse now, with that much time and the months since ep12 to do it.

Ragashingo · 2021-06-29, 23:45

Episode 13:

Spoiler:

gecd · 2021-06-30, 01:47

Spoiler for about Koito:

BBOvenGuy · 2021-06-30, 01:49

Spoiler for Episode 13:

I'm not surprised the first half was a recap. It's been three months since the previous episode, after all. But even a recap can tell you things. What they show you and the order in which they show it to you are important.

When I saw this morning that the title of the episode was "My Priority," I had a feeling that was telling us something, too. This particular episode was about Ohto Ai, and her discoveries and decisions about what mattered to her. Everything else, for this episode, at least, was secondary. She had come through an ordeal - even if it was exciting, it still had its traumas, too. She needed to process that. She needed to push parts of it away for a time. But in the end, she decided what her priorities were going to be. Acca and Ura-Acca and Frill and the bug brigade? Yeah, they're still out there, but what matters to Ai is that she wants to see Neiru again. That's what counts.

That said, there's plenty of material out there for a second season, and they certainly left the door open for one, but whether or not it happens is up to the whims of showbiz. Just ask the Bloom Into You fans about that.

But even if this is all we ever get, I'm satisfied with it.

Neiru's story never quite added up, did it? If she was conceived in vitro by Plati, how could she have a sister? The way the pieces came together for her story made a kind of sense that I hadn't considered before. Plus I loved the way she was arguing with her slippers.

I was never entirely sold on the "Koito good/Sawaki bad" narrative. The way Koito approached Ai - I want to say "came on to her" - had always given me a creepy vibe. And the way people suspected Sawaki speaks more to our society's assumption that any man below a certain advanced age who's friendly with a teenage girl must have predatory intent. (Having finally gained enough gray hair that I can be friendly toward a young woman without it being assumed that I'm hitting on her, I can relate.) There were too many characters invested in Sawaki, in too many different ways, for him to be a villain. Plus Ai's acceptance of his relationship with her mother was an important part of her journey.

We didn't see much of Momoe and Rika, but they still had some good moments. Momoe quietly slipping out of Egg-World without making a fuss. Rika being a lot less stable about it. They have their own stuff to deal with. That's how life works sometimes.

This episode was facing an enormous disadvantage. Everyone had three months to imagine their own "perfect" finale, and there's no way the real thing was going to measure up to that. But they told the story they wanted to tell, and in the end that's what's important.

scififan · 2021-06-30, 01:52

Neiru has more screen time this time. It is still strange. She is the last one to clear the game. Her sister is back, but Neiru is stuck in the dream world. Frill takes interest in her.

Momo is the first girl to clear the game, but her revived friend does not remember Momo. Her former friend got herself a boyfriend. By deduction, all girls who were in love with Momo, after revival, will like men.

Ai also saved her best friend, even she somehow knews their freindship was fake. The former best freind does not remember Ai. Only Ai remembers that freind jumping off from the school's rooftop. At least Ai does not run away from home, and picked up by some random guy on the street.

Ai becomes a NEET again. She is still friends with other three girls. She sets a new goal to save Neiru.

BBOvenGuy · 2021-06-30, 10:21

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Originally Posted by scififan

Momo is the first girl to clear the game, but her revived friend does not remember Momo. Her former friend got herself a boyfriend. By deduction, all girls who were in love with Momo, after revival, will like men.

I'll have to rewatch, but I don't think Momoe specified whether her friend found a boyfriend or a girlfriend. I was looking, too. Maybe the Funi translation was more vague than the actual line.

I have to rewatch anyway, because the first time around I completely whiffed on the fact that...

Spoiler for Episode 13:

Nachtwandler · 2021-06-30, 16:08

Damn. 3 months wait and they just... ended with cliffanger. I presume Neiru dealed with Frill somehow (off screen) but who cares. I really hoped for better...

Dark Wing · 2021-06-30, 16:14

I honestly feel a little ripped off. That ending turned what could've been an amazing show to an alright one.

Nachtwandler · 2021-06-30, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Dark Wing

I honestly feel a little ripped off. That ending turned what could've been an amazing show to an alright one.

My exact thoughts. They could have ended it way better. Even with 25 min of new footrage and not spending on anything flashy. But nope.

Alchemist007 · 2021-06-30, 18:20

Even with the implied big event that did happen in this episode, it could've been done a lot better. Really lackluster way to go, what a shame.

Ep 13 (not counting the recap): 4/10

Overall show remains a 7/10.

Dark Wing · 2021-06-30, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

My exact thoughts. They could have ended it way better. Even with 25 min of new footrage and not spending on anything flashy. But nope.

Overly ambitious is an excellent term I would use to describe Wonder Egg. It's clear that there are some very talented people behind the show and that Wonder Egg is a genuine product of their passion, but the show really just tries to do way too much at the cost of its narrative cohesiveness and it's hurts the show overall. The setup for this new lore dump really wasn't there in the first half and I don't know what the show is actually trying to say. I thought I understood the underlying messages in the earlier episodes but at this point it just seems like Wonder Egg is trying to go everywhere at once and loses its sense of direction in the process.

Thor's Hammer · 2021-07-01, 00:23

It's clear that the people behind Wonder Egg Priority bit off more than they can chew. It was a mistake to introduce sci-fi elements into Wonder Egg Priority after over half the story had been told already. I considered WEP to be a 6/10 during the early episodes, but with how terrible this "final" episode was, I'm now dropping my score for the show to a 3/10.

This show could have brought up and dealt with suicide among teenagers in a meaningful way, but no, Frillbot had to be introduced. It's clear that the creators of this show came in with no plan, and that's why the show ended up the way it did in production hell. There's no way this series is making a profit, so I'd say there's a 99% chance there won't be a sequel, so this will in all likelihood be the last we see of Wonder Egg Priority. Goodbye and good riddance to a terrible show.

BBOvenGuy · 2021-07-01, 11:34

I'm disappointed that so many people are disappointed. But oh well...

Sides · 2021-07-01, 19:23

I think episode 13 was fine, but it didn't really made a difference compared to the ending in episode 12. At the end of ep12 we knew that Ai returned to the world.
Ep13 just basically tried to explain why she made the decision to return to the dream world.
The only reason I can see why they decided to make ep13, is to tie up loose ends and to finish the show for good.

Thor's Hammer · 2021-07-02, 01:13

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Originally Posted by Sides

I think episode 13 was fine, but it didn't really made a difference compared to the ending in episode 12. At the end of ep12 we knew that Ai returned to the world.
Ep13 just basically tried to explain why she made the decision to return to the dream world.
The only reason I can see why they decided to make ep13, is to tie up loose ends and to finish the show for good.

Do you really think that was an appropriate ending? It raised more questions than it tied up loose ends. It was basically a complete non-ending.

Sides · 2021-07-03, 02:59

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Originally Posted by Thor's Hammer

Do you really think that was an appropriate ending?

It depends on what the viewer was expecting I guess.
Ep13 was marketed as a special, not an ending. It basically answers the questions why Ai went back fighing in the dreamworld at the last scene of ep12.
In that sense you are right ep13 wasn't as good ending, because the show ended in ep12.

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Originally Posted by Thor's Hammer

It raised more questions than it tied up loose ends. It was basically a complete non-ending.

You have to be more specific here.

Last Sinner · 2021-07-15, 00:19

That final episode is the most hilarious trainwreck I've seen in years. It resolves nothing. It renders virtually anything that happened meaningless aside from Ai no longer being a recluse.

I thought Neverland S2 would be the biggest hero to villain turn this year for how it made things even worse than the issues that part of the manga had, but this sets the bar even lower.

This is the last time I ever bother with something made by a live-action drama director. But I'm not angry or upset at all. I laugh. Because Odd Taxi happened in the meanwhile.

Conglaturations, WEP. Your legacy of failure is now complete.

BBOvenGuy · 2021-07-15, 23:15

Yeah, I'm never going to win on this one. The last episode was a killer for too many people. And I do get that. One scene in the last episode of Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu killed the entire series for me, or at least the second half.

For what it's worth, though, you can read my thoughts on the series here.

Nachtwandler · 2021-07-16, 01:37

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Originally Posted by BBOvenGuy

One scene in the last episode of Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu killed the entire series for me, or at least the second half.

If you mean the hints about "who is the real father", they left that scene ambigous enough. So I am, fine with it. Rakugo still was a great series with a solid ending.

BBOvenGuy · 2021-07-16, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

If you mean the hints about "who is the real father", they left that scene ambigous enough. So I am, fine with it. Rakugo still was a great series with a solid ending.

I have tried multiple times to convince myself of that, but it just never sticks. It's my personal issue, and I certainly don't blame anyone else for not sharing it. But that's also what makes me realize there are people who will never accept the WEP finale, no matter what I or anyone else says in support of it. Their objections have personal roots that go beyond the confines of the story.

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Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 43	Maybe there really is hope the finale can pull things together given they have one hour. That said, they have no excuse now, with that much time and the months since ep12 to do it. __________________

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Ragashingo Happy Sphere Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Texas	Episode 13: Spoiler: That was weird. Why do an extended length episode if half of it is going to be a recap?? As for the new stuff… so much if it was downers. The Statue Girls really did come back to life but they don’t remember their friends. Frill and company are still alive and their situation is just unresolved. Neiru was an AI girl and has gone off somewhere… and died? (Else how can Ai find her again with Wonder Eggs?) Our other friends go separate ways and their experiences with Frill’s minions sees them not help ever again. Oh… and I kinda hate that Koito was such a bad person when we were previously shown that her friendship saved Ai from suicide… That seems inconsistent. I don’t know that this episode contradicted anything else in the series, but even without the Koito reveal, there’s so many sad notes strung together that it made for a very unsatisfying end. I like the series up till the part about Frill’s minions showed up. I very much dislike the sci-fi AI turn it did after that even if the Frill episode itself was some brilliant storytelling. Maybe I don’t have the right to disagree with the shows creators, but I’d rather have had a show just about overcoming bullying with the help of friends… and magical egg battles… than the sci-fi twists we got near the end. Oh well. __________________ Macross Frontier Episode Guide

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gecd Cah Gunungkidul Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Jogja Age: 35	Spoiler for about Koito: well, she is voiced by Ueda Reina. Of course she must be evil __________________ Wedang Jahe Kalengan, teman anda melewati malam yang dingin dan sepi! 0% alcohol, 80% ginger syrup, 10% love, 10% GALAU!!

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Nachtwandler Yurifag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine / Barcelona, Spain Age: 36	Damn. 3 months wait and they just... ended with cliffanger. I presume Neiru dealed with Frill somehow (off screen) but who cares. I really hoped for better... __________________ F/GO: 828 004 124 My Anime list My VN list Last edited by Nachtwandler; 2021-06-30 at 18:02.

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Dark Wing Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Age: 38	I honestly feel a little ripped off. That ending turned what could've been an amazing show to an alright one. __________________

2021-06-30, 01:49	Link #124
BBOvenGuy Math Ninja Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura County CA Age: 59	Spoiler for Episode 13: I'm not surprised the first half was a recap. It's been three months since the previous episode, after all. But even a recap can tell you things. What they show you and the order in which they show it to you are important. When I saw this morning that the title of the episode was "My Priority," I had a feeling that was telling us something, too. This particular episode was about Ohto Ai, and her discoveries and decisions about what mattered to her. Everything else, for this episode, at least, was secondary. She had come through an ordeal - even if it was exciting, it still had its traumas, too. She needed to process that. She needed to push parts of it away for a time. But in the end, she decided what her priorities were going to be. Acca and Ura-Acca and Frill and the bug brigade? Yeah, they're still out there, but what matters to Ai is that she wants to see Neiru again. That's what counts. That said, there's plenty of material out there for a second season, and they certainly left the door open for one, but whether or not it happens is up to the whims of showbiz. Just ask the Bloom Into You fans about that. But even if this is all we ever get, I'm satisfied with it. Neiru's story never quite added up, did it? If she was conceived in vitro by Plati, how could she have a sister? The way the pieces came together for her story made a kind of sense that I hadn't considered before. Plus I loved the way she was arguing with her slippers. I was never entirely sold on the "Koito good/Sawaki bad" narrative. The way Koito approached Ai - I want to say "came on to her" - had always given me a creepy vibe. And the way people suspected Sawaki speaks more to our society's assumption that any man below a certain advanced age who's friendly with a teenage girl must have predatory intent. (Having finally gained enough gray hair that I can be friendly toward a young woman without it being assumed that I'm hitting on her, I can relate.) There were too many characters invested in Sawaki, in too many different ways, for him to be a villain. Plus Ai's acceptance of his relationship with her mother was an important part of her journey. We didn't see much of Momoe and Rika, but they still had some good moments. Momoe quietly slipping out of Egg-World without making a fuss. Rika being a lot less stable about it. They have their own stuff to deal with. That's how life works sometimes. This episode was facing an enormous disadvantage. Everyone had three months to imagine their own "perfect" finale, and there's no way the real thing was going to measure up to that. But they told the story they wanted to tell, and in the end that's what's important.

2021-06-30, 01:52	Link #125
scififan Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	Neiru has more screen time this time. It is still strange. She is the last one to clear the game. Her sister is back, but Neiru is stuck in the dream world. Frill takes interest in her. Momo is the first girl to clear the game, but her revived friend does not remember Momo. Her former friend got herself a boyfriend. By deduction, all girls who were in love with Momo, after revival, will like men. Ai also saved her best friend, even she somehow knews their freindship was fake. The former best freind does not remember Ai. Only Ai remembers that freind jumping off from the school's rooftop. At least Ai does not run away from home, and picked up by some random guy on the street. Ai becomes a NEET again. She is still friends with other three girls. She sets a new goal to save Neiru.

2021-06-30, 18:20	Link #130
Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	Even with the implied big event that did happen in this episode, it could've been done a lot better. Really lackluster way to go, what a shame. Ep 13 (not counting the recap): 4/10 Overall show remains a 7/10. __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

2021-07-01, 00:23	Link #132
Thor's Hammer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012	It's clear that the people behind Wonder Egg Priority bit off more than they can chew. It was a mistake to introduce sci-fi elements into Wonder Egg Priority after over half the story had been told already. I considered WEP to be a 6/10 during the early episodes, but with how terrible this "final" episode was, I'm now dropping my score for the show to a 3/10. This show could have brought up and dealt with suicide among teenagers in a meaningful way, but no, Frillbot had to be introduced. It's clear that the creators of this show came in with no plan, and that's why the show ended up the way it did in production hell. There's no way this series is making a profit, so I'd say there's a 99% chance there won't be a sequel, so this will in all likelihood be the last we see of Wonder Egg Priority. Goodbye and good riddance to a terrible show.

2021-07-01, 11:34	Link #133
BBOvenGuy Math Ninja Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura County CA Age: 59	I'm disappointed that so many people are disappointed. But oh well...

2021-07-01, 19:23	Link #134
Sides Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 42	I think episode 13 was fine, but it didn't really made a difference compared to the ending in episode 12. At the end of ep12 we knew that Ai returned to the world. Ep13 just basically tried to explain why she made the decision to return to the dream world. The only reason I can see why they decided to make ep13, is to tie up loose ends and to finish the show for good.

2021-07-15, 00:19	Link #137
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 43	That final episode is the most hilarious trainwreck I've seen in years. It resolves nothing. It renders virtually anything that happened meaningless aside from Ai no longer being a recluse. I thought Neverland S2 would be the biggest hero to villain turn this year for how it made things even worse than the issues that part of the manga had, but this sets the bar even lower. This is the last time I ever bother with something made by a live-action drama director. But I'm not angry or upset at all. I laugh. Because Odd Taxi happened in the meanwhile. Conglaturations, WEP. Your legacy of failure is now complete. __________________

2021-07-15, 23:15	Link #138
BBOvenGuy Math Ninja Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ventura County CA Age: 59	Yeah, I'm never going to win on this one. The last episode was a killer for too many people. And I do get that. One scene in the last episode of Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu killed the entire series for me, or at least the second half. For what it's worth, though, you can read my thoughts on the series here.