Mahouka [LN/M] - Character Speculation/Theories: Erika

[pampz21]

Reread the whole novel; and I get the feeling that Leo and Erika are related by blood.

Her attitude toward Leo is the same as Toshi.

[LKK]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Reread the whole novel; and I get the feeling that Leo and Erika are related by blood.

Her attitude toward Leo is the same as Toshi.

Which novel did you reread?

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by LKK

Which novel did you reread?

.....

IDK but that hurts my heart

[~oNe~]

Originally Posted by pampz21

.....

IDK but that hurts my heart

aaa.. i dont get it..

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Reread the whole novel; and I get the feeling that Leo and Erika are related by blood.

Her attitude toward Leo is the same as Toshi.

You are saying that Erika is Burg Folge?

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by ~oNe~

aaa.. i dont get it..

Its love~

Originally Posted by Echizen777

You are saying that Erika is Burg Folge?

Nah; I just think that Rozen created the Burg Folge series like Yotsuba created Sakurai Series. I think the first Fortress Series is a Rozen or a distant relative. Probably Erika's identity isnt opened to the public. Only a handful of people know that she exist. Tatsuya didnt know she exist when they first met afterall.
From the looks on vol. 13 the Rozen isnt someone new to Leo and its looks like hes being ordered or something; 1 theory is the Eisnt told Leo, Erika's identity and that the only reason why I can think of the Rozen wanting something from Erika is she probably inherited one of the Rozen's magic. So far people who are course 2 students thats been introduce are people from 1st Generation magician or BS Magician.

[~oNe~]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Its love~

Nope.. i still dont get it..

btw what IDK??

Originally Posted by pampz21

Nah; I just think that Rozen created the Burg Folge series like Yotsuba created Sakurai Series. I think the first Fortress Series is a Rozen or a distant relative. Probably Erika's identity isnt opened to the public. Only a handful of people know that she exist. Tatsuya didnt know she exist when they first met afterall.
From the looks on vol. 13 the Rozen isnt someone new to Leo and its looks like hes being ordered or something; 1 theory is the Eisnt told Leo, Erika's identity and that the only reason why I can think of the Rozen wanting something from Erika is she probably inherited one of the Rozen's magic. So far people who are course 2 students thats been introduce are people from 1st Generation magician or BS Magician.

that probably true or beyond that... the character itself looks similiar if you compare each other...

[~oNe~]

ara...

i just realize this part in volume 9 chapter 6:

Spoiler for Vol 9 Chapter 6:

The dark red tresses fluctuated wildly.
Erika’s sword without a blade had sheared through the head band holding back the masked woman’s hair based on speed alone.
The scattered strands were chest length. The light wind caused her hair to flutter, giving an altogether unholy vibe to her appearance.

(If her skin is also black, she would be like Kali, huh....)

After briefly considering this, Erika kept her guard up as she carefully examined her stalemated opponent. Her appearance might seem like a joke, but her skills were unquestionably first class. As for her magical skill, right now, that earlier performance in that solitary instant was enough to rate her beyond first class. Erika’s competitive spirit told her that at this current rate, she would lose the initiative and be forced onto the defensive, culminating in a crushing defeat that was beyond imagining.

how can this name pop-up nowhere and no one mention this name before

well i still confusing which one are reffered to 'KALI' erika or lina....

and i dont understand this part;

Spoiler for Vol 7 unknown chapter...:

Erika was born with that "speed" and, with countless days of harsh training, she finally obtained this ability.

hhmmm... what kind of magic or ability is that "speed'??? BS magician???

Spoiler for Vol 9 Chapter 5:

Chiba Erika’s day started very early in the morning. Every dawn, her training of blood and sweat was her homework.
Until the age of 10, she had followed her father’s instructions without question.
Until the age of 14, when told of who she was, she wanted to be a Chiba swordsman more than anyone else.

Until last March, she always did this out of habit.

Yet, since last April, since she first met him, this was now her own wish.

By her own will, to become even stronger.

At dawn, she didn’t hold a sword. Accurately reading Erika’s ability, her father had diligently raised her to be the user of the Secret Arte – Yamatsunami, no, trained her for the sake of her becoming the wielder of Yamatsunami. The technique imparted to her struck like the wind and descended like lightning, a sword of agility. Hence during her training, the conditioning of her legs and the ability to run were especially important. In days of sloth where she had lost her goal, the long distance running that she had long neglected was never forgotten again once she vowed by her own will to "become stronger than today".

'him' are refer to tatsuya?

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by ~oNe~

ara...

i just realize this part in volume 9 chapter 6:

Spoiler for Vol 9 Chapter 6:

The dark red tresses fluctuated wildly.
Erika’s sword without a blade had sheared through the head band holding back the masked woman’s hair based on speed alone.
The scattered strands were chest length. The light wind caused her hair to flutter, giving an altogether unholy vibe to her appearance.

(If her skin is also black, she would be like Kali, huh....)

After briefly considering this, Erika kept her guard up as she carefully examined her stalemated opponent. Her appearance might seem like a joke, but her skills were unquestionably first class. As for her magical skill, right now, that earlier performance in that solitary instant was enough to rate her beyond first class. Erika’s competitive spirit told her that at this current rate, she would lose the initiative and be forced onto the defensive, culminating in a crushing defeat that was beyond imagining.

how can this name pop-up nowhere and no one mention this name before

well i still confusing which one are reffered to 'KALI' erika or lina....

and i dont understand this part;

Spoiler for Vol 7 unknown chapter...:

Erika was born with that "speed" and, with countless days of harsh training, she finally obtained this ability.

hhmmm... what kind of magic or ability is that "speed'??? BS magician???

Spoiler for Vol 9 Chapter 5:

Chiba Erika’s day started very early in the morning. Every dawn, her training of blood and sweat was her homework.
Until the age of 10, she had followed her father’s instructions without question.
Until the age of 14, when told of who she was, she wanted to be a Chiba swordsman more than anyone else.

Until last March, she always did this out of habit.

Yet, since last April, since she first met him, this was now her own wish.

By her own will, to become even stronger.

At dawn, she didn’t hold a sword. Accurately reading Erika’s ability, her father had diligently raised her to be the user of the Secret Arte – Yamatsunami, no, trained her for the sake of her becoming the wielder of Yamatsunami. The technique imparted to her struck like the wind and descended like lightning, a sword of agility. Hence during her training, the conditioning of her legs and the ability to run were especially important. In days of sloth where she had lost her goal, the long distance running that she had long neglected was never forgotten again once she vowed by her own will to "become stronger than today".

'him' are refer to tatsuya?

Erika is refering to Lina as "Kali"; but theres a twist, the Kali that she saw is an illusion. But looking at Erika relationship with the characters and her personality. She is clearly the "Kali" of this story. One theory of mine is that a part of the story is Tatsuya's meeting with Erika. "Kali" is a goddess of time and change afterall. Of course this is just me.


The speed that is being refered to that magic is her inborn speed not her magic enchance speed. Iam not sure if Erika uses acceleration magic for Yamatsunami but from the explaination;she only used magic on the point of impact when Yamatsunami activates.

"Him" refers to Tatsuya.

[~oNe~]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Erika is refering to Lina as "Kali"; but theres a twist, the Kali that she saw is an illusion. But looking at Erika relationship with the characters and her personality. She is clearly the "Kali" of this story. One theory of mine is that a part of the story is Tatsuya's meeting with Erika. "Kali" is a goddess of time and change afterall. Of course this is just me.


The speed that is being refered to that magic is her inborn speed not her magic enchance speed. Iam not sure if Erika uses acceleration magic for Yamatsunami but from the explaination;she only used magic on the point of impact when Yamatsunami activates.

unlike 'mahesvara'(mention in vol 7 and vol 8 are reference for what happen in vol 7), 'kali' only mention by erika once without any detail until now and how she know 'kali' in first place???

but the way author mention about erika 'speed' ability are similiar with the way he explain about tatsuya ability and later explain how he gain his current ability one by one (i forgot which vol). from what i know speed also related with 'time', when you be able move faster (including your brain/think faster), you will see area surrounding you become 'slower'. if that the case, it explain in vol 7:

Spoiler for vol 7:

On the flank of the irregular force whose morale was in tatters, a silver wind flew across with a speed that the eye could barely follow.

that 'silver wind' are after image cause by moving faster. Probably inperfect technicue.?

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Erika is refering to Lina as "Kali"; but theres a twist, the Kali that she saw is an illusion. But looking at Erika relationship with the characters and her personality. She is clearly the "Kali" of this story. One theory of mine is that a part of the story is Tatsuya's meeting with Erika. "Kali" is a goddess of time and change afterall. Of course this is just me.


The speed that is being refered to that magic is her inborn speed not her magic enchance speed. Iam not sure if Erika uses acceleration magic for Yamatsunami but from the explaination;she only used magic on the point of impact when Yamatsunami activates.

"Him" refers to Tatsuya.

Kali being Lina makes more sense to me since Miyuki is based on Parvati, both have equal Magic Power while Erika could not stand against them in a fight. Now for the speed and change theory, the speed could be related to Lina's outstanding casting speed and the change to the change of appearances possible with Parade.

[~oNe~]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Kali being Lina makes more sense to me since Miyuki is based on Parvati, both have equal Magic Power while Erika could not stand against them in a fight. Now for the speed and change theory, the speed could be related to Lina's outstanding casting speed and the change to the change of appearances possible with Parade.

That possible too but during the first encounter, Erika dont know that sirius are lina and who she is and what kind ability she have...

Kali also refered to goddess of death... and fact both lina and erika already kill/slay peolple multiple time...

but the way erika tough about 'same like kali' mention erika know someone being called 'kali' before like how GAA soldiers see and know tatsuya appearence/ability as mahesvara aka shiva during war.

well originally before vol 9 out i tought erika are/like nine-tail fox afterall

and miki also mention about 9 tail fox in vol 9 as ancient spirit about 900 years ago...

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

Kali being Lina makes more sense to me since Miyuki is based on Parvati, both have equal Magic Power while Erika could not stand against them in a fight. Now for the speed and change theory, the speed could be related to Lina's outstanding casting speed and the change to the change of appearances possible with Parade.

I'm not talking about magic power; beside Kali doesnt have any sort of extreme power like Shiva; she only uses sword as far as I know. Iam talking about the roles they play in the story. Besides we dont know Erika's true identity yet or her real magic.

Originally Posted by ~oNe~

That possible too but during the first encounter, Erika dont know that sirius are lina and who she is and what kind ability she have...

Kali also refered to goddess of death... and fact both lina and erika already kill/slay peolple multiple time...

but the way erika tough about 'same like kali' mention erika know someone being called 'kali' before like how GAA soldiers see and know tatsuya appearence/ability as mahesvara aka shiva during war.

well originally before vol 9 out i tought erika are/like nine-tail fox afterall

and miki also mention about 9 tail fox in vol 9 as ancient spirit about 900 years ago...

You forget Kali's most distinctive trait; "Blood Thirst" Lina doesnt show this; as far we all know Erika's blood thirst is strong that even Tatsuya acknowledge it.

Speaking of Nine-tailed fox; wouldnt that be Retsu; He is part of the Ninth; and was called the sly fox.

[azarhal]

Originally Posted by ~oNe~

Kali also refered to goddess of death... and fact both lina and erika already kill/slay peolple multiple time...

Kali is called the goddess of death because she is death: she liberate people from the lie that is the ego (aka illusionary self/body) so their spirits can reach enlightenment.

The fact that Kali slay illusions make Erika calling Lina's illusion Kali more amusing than anything else...

[~oNe~]

Originally Posted by azarhal

The fact that Kali slay illusions make Erika calling Lina's illusion Kali more amusing than anything else...

aaa...???
sorry...
i dont get this one...

btw

i already ask my indian friend about their own belief regarding shiva/mahesvara, paarvati, kali and other stuff...

well it turn out really "over complicated" cause different path in hinduism for each one of them but still have similiarity in certain aspect....:

Spoiler for similiar?:

1. mahesvara are 'god of destruction'
2. mahesvara aka shiva have many wife including paarvati and kali
3. paarvati are not shiva sister (but the path belive paarvati is shiva sister still exist in certain state in India - and couse of this is the main reason marriage bettwen brother sister possible in that state)
4. paarvati are reincarnation of shiva ex-wife who got killed by a demon
5. paarvati are weak but thanks to effection to shiva, she train herself alone to become strong and win shiva heart
6. shiva originally ignore paarvati because her black skin

but about kali it a bit different:

Spoiler for a bit different:

1. kali and parvati is a same person (paarvati originally have black skin/ black mean kali) before paarvati become stronger and shining
2. kali exist after paarvati 'throw away'? her black skin to become white and strong
3. paarvati black skin become exsistence know as kali and later married shiva alongside paarvati...
4. kali are paarvati 'over power mode' form after absorb something from shiva to fight ultimate demon

during hearing this, i recall back and found out the story match at certain point in the light novel....

for me, role of paarvati/kali is erika herself....

[azarhal]

Originally Posted by ~oNe~

aaa...???
sorry...
i dont get this one...

I find it funny because it is ironic. An illusion is being called Kali when Kali is about slaying illusions (so people can find their true self).

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by ~oNe~

aaa...???
sorry...
i dont get this one...

btw

i already ask my indian friend about their own belief regarding shiva/mahesvara, paarvati, kali and other stuff...

well it turn out really "over complicated" cause different path in hinduism for each one of them but still have similiarity in certain aspect....:

Spoiler for similiar?:

1. mahesvara are 'god of destruction'
2. mahesvara aka shiva have many wife including paarvati and kali
3. paarvati are not shiva sister (but the path belive paarvati is shiva sister still exist in certain state in India - and couse of this is the main reason marriage bettwen brother sister possible in that state)
4. paarvati are reincarnation of shiva ex-wife who got killed by a demon
5. paarvati are weak but thanks to effection to shiva, she train herself alone to become strong and win shiva heart
6. shiva originally ignore paarvati because her black skin

but about kali it a bit different:

Spoiler for a bit different:

1. kali and parvati is a same person (paarvati originally have black skin/ black mean kali) before paarvati become stronger and shining
2. kali exist after paarvati 'throw away'? her black skin to become white and strong
3. paarvati black skin become exsistence know as kali and later married shiva alongside paarvati...
4. kali are paarvati 'over power mode' form after absorb something from shiva to fight ultimate demon

during hearing this, i recall back and found out the story match at certain point in the light novel....

for me, role of paarvati/kali is erika herself....

Are you suggesting that Erika and Miyuki are one; or that one person is a clone?...we dont know but certainly Erika felt something special to Tatsuya when they first met.

I had a theory before that Erika's mom or someone in the Rozen family is one of the scientist that experimented on Tatsuya. And from recent vol. I think theyre Yotsuba's sponsor, as to why is that theyre recently acting in the shadows of Tatsuya. Like manipulating the media and approching Leo.
Another is that Erika and Tatsuya are childhood friends and Erika calls Tatsuya "onii-chan"; lol
Just to fill up Tatsuya blank childhood; cuz its pretty wierd in vol. 8 as far as Miyuki remember theres is bearly any interaction with them; and I doubt that Tatsuya would cling to an emotion like brotherly love if they share that kind of distance when theyre still a young. Anyway everything are just my delusions.

Originally Posted by azarhal

I find it funny because it is ironic. An illusion is being called Kali when Kali is about slaying illusions (so people can find their true self).

Well thats certainly interesting.

[~oNe~]

Originally Posted by pampz21

Are you suggesting that Erika and Miyuki are one; or that one person is a clone?...we dont know but certainly Erika felt something special to Tatsuya when they first met.

I had a theory before that Erika's mom or someone in the Rozen family is one of the scientist that experimented on Tatsuya. And from recent vol. I think theyre Yotsuba's sponsor, as to why is that theyre recently acting in the shadows of Tatsuya. Like manipulating the media and approching Leo.
Another is that Erika and Tatsuya are childhood friends and Erika calls Tatsuya "onii-chan"; lol
Just to fill up Tatsuya blank childhood; cuz its pretty wierd in vol. 8 as far as Miyuki remember theres is bearly any interaction with them; and I doubt that Tatsuya would cling to an emotion like brotherly love if they share that kind of distance when theyre still a young. Anyway everything are just my delusions.

well true this story full of hole surround the main character like tatsuya, erika and leo....

i ask one of my indian friend and also ex-hinduism to read this novel and manga version and tell me his own opinion...

their answer are the most weird but it cant be helped coz the story itself still in progress...

1. miyuki, erika and honoka are paarvati in different path in hinduism
2. leon are like character of ganesha
3. mari, lina, mayumi are durga (lina parade take base of kali exsistence)
4. concept number family/ten master clan base from ********* in hinduism
5. other character also fit in concept hinduism but i dont remember what that

but he dont understand character like tatsuya, erika and leon coz it like the character not fit in certain term???

[tuckersister]

I wonder if Erika will get in the crossfire with the Yotsuba in the future.

[~oNe~]

Originally Posted by tuckersister

I wonder if Erika will get in the crossfire with the Yotsuba in the future.

dunno...

her own current circumstances and secret in the past still vague...

hopefully vol 14 have the answer