(L) Yondome wa Iyana Shi Zokusei Majutsushi

[bludvein]

Did Vandalieu just become a chest burster(Alien)? He's really earning that monster name.

[sasuke706]

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought he became a chest burster.

Vandalieu finally found the stash of undead heroes.
I like how the guy who destroyed Tarosheim was also casually there but Vandalieu only cared about the giant girls.

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by Namorax

A valkyrie isn't a death angel.
IIRC, she travels to battlefields after the battle is over and collects the souls of brave warriors so they can become Einherjar.
These guys are basically conscripted to fight during Ragnarök, and until then they get to dine in Odin's mead-hall. Depending on your point of view, these guys are either rewarded or conscripted for Armageddon.
She has no influence over whether or not one dies, because that defeats her purpose. If you are brave and strong or manage to do an amazing feat on the battlefield, the Valkyrie will come and escort you to "heaven" after you die in battle. If she can point at you (like an angel of death) and *bam* you're dead... then she doesn't deserve to be called a valkyrie and should expect Odin to show up with a few complaints.



Depending on the story/universe/author, there might be differences between valkyries and what they can do and what their job is.
But as far as I know, the "original" valkyrie did just that: travel across fresh battlefields and "conscript" brave warriors from among the fallen.

Looking at the abilities of the other people in that group, I would expect she's either able to summon spirits of warriors, or channel them like a miko or something.
As in, the Valkyrie summons the spirits of fallen Warriors to fight, the MC uses their bodies to do the same...

In myth valkyrie didn't always wait for a hero to be killed they wanted them in their prime so if they were really good they'd be sure to take them since a warrior had to fall in battle to be taken

[cabman11]

Yeah that's true

[cabman11]

New chapter in 10 minutes

[bludvein]

Huh, didn't think Vandalieu would pick the zombie maker job. I hope he doesn't plan to get all the the available lower jobs before getting to the good ones, because some of them seem quite useless. If he get that tongue whip one for example I'm going to facepalm.

[cabman11]

You know that is actually starting to piss me off

[Namorax]

Originally Posted by kagato3

In myth valkyrie didn't always wait for a hero to be killed they wanted them in their prime so if they were really good they'd be sure to take them since a warrior had to fall in battle to be taken

Maybe, but this is what a Valkyrie is technically supposed to do.
She might be able to bend the rules to ensure a promising warrior falls in battle when he is still strong and not when he is gray and old, but she is still not "a death angel".
I don't think there is a definition on what exactly a death angel is, but that term normally describes a celestial/divine being that moves with the sole intent of killing something or someone(s).
The Valkyrie is supposed to gather honorable and strong warriors who've prooven themselves in battle. If she can kill them in order to conscript them, she's more like a warrior-necromancer.

All I wanted to point out! ^^;

[sasuke706]

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I personally don't have a problem with it, but to each their own.
He already stated that leveling up an advanced job is apparently difficult, so getting normal ones out of the way first is generally wiser. It also opens up new paths to advanced jobs and all.
And he has a lot of hero undead he needs to fix, so zombie maker isn't that bad of an idea. I mean he was Archenemy for like 2-3 chapters at best. It doesn't look like going through jobs is going to take THAT long.

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by sasuke706

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I personally don't have a problem with it, but to each their own.
He already stated that leveling up an advanced job is apparently difficult, so getting normal ones out of the way first is generally wiser. It also opens up new paths to advanced jobs and all.
And he has a lot of hero undead he needs to fix, so zombie maker isn't that bad of an idea. I mean he was Archenemy for like 2-3 chapters at best. It doesn't look like going through jobs is going to take THAT long.

I'm not saying picking lower jobs isn't wise, but I thought he would go for the more useful sounding ones first rather than going in order. Zombie maker doesn't seem to offer anything he can't already do, and if he wanted to improve his surgery skill(for zombie making/repairing) the dark doctor job seems better. The only thing zombie maker has going for it is that it sounds like it would pair with undead tamer to unlock a higher job, but that's just a guess.

EDIT:

Looks like Heinz is starting to take off in the background. That's going to be troublesome later, I can tell. Unless the reincarnated all die to Eighth Guidance within the next few months or so they will end up in a pretty deep underdog position when they finally end up in Lambda.

EDIT2: I bet Death Knight is on his next job list now that he's trying to acquire armor and shield skills. Don't know if he'd pick it, but at least it opens some warrior job options in the future.

[cabman11]

Things are getting really interesting now

[sasuke706]

^That's what happens when a side story converges with the main story.
It's also making good use of the promise of the reincarnated kids going to the protagonist's world, since they're getting killed left and right now.
It is weird seeing Van & friends basically look like they're 80% screwing around despite being serious, and then Eighth Guidance actually comes off as 100% serious somehow despite casually eating dinner while talking about how they're gonna kill and get killed soon.
They do the same joking things like that but the tone comes off completely differently.

The random sci-fi fantasy mix is also a nice change of pace.
I can't actually remember how many Bravers are alive in Origin at this point.
Kanata died, the girl who killed him died, the 2 schmucks who became angels, the 3 random guys, and now the 3 who died this chapter.
Which makes 7 of them alive on Lambda at this point (since Kanata died again and 2 are angels), with the Gazer girl probably siding with Vandalieu cause she seems to be Jack's girlfriend or something.
The author also said that the metamorphosis woman might thank Vandalieu for killing Kanata again so she's also up in the air.
I probably should've waited until the side story barrage was all uploaded before reading...

And lastly, I imagine the two predicted by Gazer to be 'overlooked' will probably be Hiroto and Naruse.
Naruse because Van tried to save her on Earth and they seem to look way too much into Vandalieu's actions and respect them despite them really not having much meaning to them.
Hiroto because they probably can't kill him and he should live in guilt for getting them all killed and with their new horrible reputation thanks to Shade, and his wife learning the truth and having to live with it will be funny.

[cabman11]

I've come to like the story of origin better than the main one.
One might just be my bias against the status system itself and any sort of leveling up.
The second is that fact I love science magic combos.
Third is that feels more serious.

The author wasted a really good opportunity to expand on that side

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by sasuke706

^That's what happens when a side story converges with the main story.
It's also making good use of the promise of the reincarnated kids going to the protagonist's world, since they're getting killed left and right now.
It is weird seeing Van & friends basically look like they're 80% screwing around despite being serious, and then Eighth Guidance actually comes off as 100% serious somehow despite casually eating dinner while talking about how they're gonna kill and get killed soon.
They do the same joking things like that but the tone comes off completely differently.

The random sci-fi fantasy mix is also a nice change of pace.
I can't actually remember how many Bravers are alive in Origin at this point.
Kanata died, the girl who killed him died, the 2 schmucks who became angels, the 3 random guys, and now the 3 who died this chapter.
Which makes 7 of them alive on Lambda at this point (since Kanata died again and 2 are angels), with the Gazer girl probably siding with Vandalieu cause she seems to be Jack's girlfriend or something.
The author also said that the metamorphosis woman might thank Vandalieu for killing Kanata again so she's also up in the air.
I probably should've waited until the side story barrage was all uploaded before reading...

And lastly, I imagine the two predicted by Gazer to be 'overlooked' will probably be Hiroto and Naruse.
Naruse because Van tried to save her on Earth and they seem to look way too much into Vandalieu's actions and respect them despite them really not having much meaning to them.
Hiroto because they probably can't kill him and he should live in guilt for getting them all killed and with their new horrible reputation thanks to Shade, and his wife learning the truth and having to live with it will be funny.

I don't know about Hiroto being one of the few left. On one hand it's a cruel and unusual punishment(and hence interesting in how it would distort his character), but on the other hand if he doesn't die soon he'd be practically a bug to Van later. It seems a waste of his hype as an antagonist.

EDIT: I personally hope the side story ends soon. It's not boring exactly, but it doesn't feel like it matters. We barely even know the characters involved.

[cabman11]

That's why I wish the author would have done more with the site sorry. It's honestly better than the main story.

Anyway todays chapter was pretty hard core

[sasuke706]

I agree it's interesting, but I also think it shines because it's a short side story.
The author's basically just giving us the juicy bits and explaining the bare minimum necessary information as it comes up.
Hell, the Metamorphosis girl just randomly died off screen and it just gets mentioned like we should know it already.

Eighth Guidance members are all pretty interesting.
Well, we haven't even seen some of them on screen yet I suppose.

Can't wait for them to all reunite in the main story.
I wonder if they're going to be born from that weird blob in Vandalieu's lab.
They've probably fed it enough meat to form a few bodies by now, since apparently it doesn't excrete anything.
It'd be kind of waste to give them defining characteristics and then just change them when they're born again.
Well, Izanami aside. She could probably do without the cancer and tumors all over her.

[cabman11]

I wonder how Pluto was going to go out. Maybe suicide bombing them with death Magic that she collected

[sasuke706]

I actually do expect Pluto to kill the most of them. Since she's been collecting Death and all.
And Gazer said that Pluto will overlook two people, so to "overlook" two people she has to be killing others, right?

Curious what Enma is going to do, unless it's just another suicide bombing.
Since all he can do is know who's dead and all. Not exactly a fighting ability.

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by cabman11

That's why I wish the author would have done more with the site sorry. It's honestly better than the main story.

Anyway todays chapter was pretty hard core

How can you say it's better than the main story when the characters barely get a few sentences of background before dying off? Origin's magic-science setting is somewhat interesting, but it's ultimately pointless to what's going on in Lambda. The only thing that matters is the final kill count since it determines who ends up there.

[sunsown]

It would be good if all members of the 'Eight Guidance' are together and with Vandalieu when they are reborn in lambda as opposed to them being scattered all over. In case all the members are with Vandalieu immediately after they are reincarnated can the author come up with a good reason as to how they directly came to Vandalieu instead of going through Rodocorute? Or was the reason that they might go directly to Vandalieu already hinted somewhere?