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And he still has his natural talent for archery, but that is of course not unique to the UBW route. EDIT: The reality marble is something that is constantly present, so if you do certain examinations, it is probably possible to confirm the existence of the reality marble inside a person, which probably happened in HF. Also Shirou was aware of his reality marble in HF, because he clearly pointed out how the blades in his body come from that. |
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I always knew I thought...differently(haha! See, that's a better word)...but thinking differently is also known as(in most case)thinking out of the box so it's not exactly an insult. Also, I've revised the thought and just realised how much more sense it made to do UBW. And, there's probably going to be next to nothing about Sakura in the new anime as thats what the HF movie(s) will be for. |
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2014-07-31, 14:57 | Link #1386 | |
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2014-07-31, 18:01 | Link #1388 | |
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The third reason is that producing a new reality marble based on his current ideal would take a long time, as he would be starting from scratch for the most part (differnet ideal different body), the whole stamen screamed of bullshit in comparison to everything else that had occurred prior. |
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2014-07-31, 18:06 | Link #1389 |
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Origins aren't tied to one's body. There's even the implied possibility that Shirou's origin changed after the Fuyuki inferno.
And UBW doesn't try to kill him because of any "judgment". It ends up overwhelming him because Archer is so immensely more powerful. If mana were like water, Archer's arm was basically drowning him. |
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But there's nothing stating his origin changed back, yet there's dialogue that says he'd still be able to use UBW (or, at the very least, his tracing which is intrinsically tied to UBW). Taking that into consideration, it's really no different from the Fate route where he gave back Avalon. His origin remained unchanged despite the new body.
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2014-07-31, 18:22 | Link #1394 | |
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UBW isn't simply an ability it's his very mind and it's very specific. You can't simply change the whole thing entirely and what it means, without starting from scratch. It's why he can't use UBW because his ideals and Archer's ideals are different. it's something that normally takes decades to attain. His new body doesn't even have enough prana circuits to sustain UBW that's how incompatible it is. |
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Then again, there's the fact that in this upcoming anime most viewers will already be acquainted with them being sisters and Sakura's situation from watching the Fate/Zero anime, so I imagine they might include a nod to it or something. Something like Rin making it clear that she still needs and plans to deal with the situation with Sakura one day, which might make for nice foreshadowing to the HF movie(s). Of course, HF is a different version of the story, so that doesn't mean UBW Sakura will be saved as well, but knowing that Rin plans to try would be a nice start. |
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Also in the HF-True epilogue it was stated his body is slowly turning back into what his body was originally, because his soul is changing it, which means it will also be able to bear the reality marble sooner or later. Also he still has his "hero" mentality. He just focused on specific targets to protect, instead of "everyone". |
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2014-08-01, 01:03 | Link #1398 |
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Origin is literally that "thing" that exits Akasha, then particles with the same alignment and impulse are drawn to this and form your soul and body. For more information, I recommend reading Kara no Kyoukai.
An Origin switch therefore is actually absolutely ridiculous as it completely changes one's existence. FSN's first scene (excluding the Prologue) is called "Rebirth". You can say Shirou was literally reborn in that fire after the 4th War. |
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I'm not sure how baseless that is because I was under the same impression. I thought UBW destroying Shirou's body in HF had a very symbolic meaning. It's been awhile since I read it, but I was led to believe that his reality marble literally came apart when he went against his ideal. Well that and his body's prana not being compatible with his future self's arm.
At the very least, I think interpreting the story in that way makes it more interesting IMO.
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It was Archer's Reality Marble that invaded Shirou after he used Archer's arm. That is really all.
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