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The fat jokes in a vaccum don't mean too much, but they did show up a ton and that got kinda silly. It's the combination of him getting up there and meeting up with Takahiro Sakurai, err I mean God and the somewhat absurd way they connected that just made the whole thing utterly ridiculous. Thus far they haven't done anything like that-- I mean strongarming funny story guy was the limit and at least that fits into the story. Quote:
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Oh wait, I thought all my posts come with it pre-installed. Sorry guys, i've been getting into poker again, so I need to practice on deception. Clearly it needs some work against people who have past history with me.
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Btw: I do make distinction between moe and moeblob. Quote:
Where is will, there is way. Both mangaka and direction had will, so their meeting went smoothly.
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2015-03-22, 18:29 | Link #1404 | |
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Perhaps you're confusing moe with moeblob. It's the not the same thing. Moeblob is just an extreme example of a moe character.
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2015-03-22, 18:44 | Link #1405 |
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1. You are saying it's definition of industry. Time to show on what basis you claim it. If you can't prove it. It's your subjective opinion I disagree with.
2. Yeah, it's true that 90% of anime feature girls that aren't ugly. 3. There are cute girls, moe girls and moeblob. Three categories. It's obvious you have just two.
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2015-03-22, 18:56 | Link #1406 |
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I really dislike @Archon_Wing first comment about Zuka that leads to this long discussion (Just your comment you know, not you Archon, please pardon me). That's because I've got in similar situation like Zuka just two weeks ago. And I feel kinda offended by that comment a bit (in a good way, so here I'll try to defend Zuka).
Let's start with a question. If it's Zuka from the start of this season, not the current Zuka, do you think she gonna land that Lucy's role? The answer is No. Absolutely no. It's though to get this job. We don't need a newbie Seiyuu who butchecred her lines in audition. (And I think that's the same with me from one year ago) So what she does till now that deserve her luck to that job? Eating chips while lamenting about live? Yes, I've done that too. But it's not just that. If someone said to me that I don't deserve my luck because I just seemed always eating chips while lamenting about live, I'll pull their hair and gives them a good slap for the great good. I just realized this thing this past week. When I do the jobs, I realize that I'm a different person than me a year ago. I'm no longer that incompetent and a newcomer person (well, but I'm sure that I still got a ton to learn). And I'm sure that happens to Zuka too. She's no longer a person who always getting nervous in an audition. She's a different person now. Well, what made her becomes a different now? She keep practicing. Not giving up. And... keep practicing. Yes, it's cliche, but that's what works. While I lamenting about live, I also keep practicing my skill. I'm not giving up. If you aren't on a sufficient level. Just keep practicing and learn from those who better than you. Also don't give up. (Though, I think it won't apply to all kind of skill/job). It's that freaking simple. Hence, I'm sure that Zuka got to this level because She kept practicing. Well, that's actually the case for me. Spoiler for Another rant! About suggestion that Zuka must doing VA for H-stuff:
But, in the end, it's just the Luck that matters Yes and No. I got my luck. Zuka got her luck. And sometimes it's just anticlimatic. We got those luck not by a though competition and sheding some tears. What a funny story... we got that just because someone remember us. Just because a simple thing we have done. Just because Zuka was told to read Catherine lines in her audition. Just because her voice sounded younger. It's just as simple as that. Well, afterall. As the wise said "Luck favours those who come prepared" |
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Didn't you watch Shirobako? They call both Exodus and Aerial Girls moe anime. Do you see that much difference between that and the Shirobako girls themselves or the Iroha girls? The Aerial girls in particular don't seem especially bubbly to me but they're still treated as moe characters by the Musani staff. Mind you, they're not as moe as the Exodus girls, but they're still moe characters. In fact the character design of Aria herself involves a discussion of how moe her design show be. But that's what I'm talking about: moe can be pretty subtle too, and just a little variation in character design can make a pretty big difference. It's also pretty obvious that personality isn't as important as character design when it comes to the moe factor.
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2015-03-22, 19:20 | Link #1410 |
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Despite fact that use of term was attacked right after it was said in this very show, you still insist it's "official" ?
As for Exodus, it clearly is moe show. In other hands in case of AG, we didn't saw more than few tidbits far from enough to compare to others shows.
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2015-03-22, 19:27 | Link #1411 |
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Director and the writer of Aerial Girls actually wind up being bros while 'FUNNY STORY!-san gets his ass canned. HAHA. YAY FOR SHIZUKA!!! SHE GOT A SMALL ROLE!!
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I only remember that one comment of disagreement. Everyone else seemed to be on the same page.
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But rushing it a bit makes the final moments a bit more effective, I think. Things happen very quickly, so you don't have as much of a chance to "guess the ending". Let's say the "fat powers"/creator heart-to-heart scene, and the Zuka scenes, happened in separate episodes. With a week's time between the two, more people probably would have guessed "So they're creating a brand new role for the final episode. ...I wonder who will be the seiyu for it? ... Oh wait!" Having watched Madoka Magica live, I know how sharp anime fans can be at speculations. So by going so quickly here, Shirobako manages to make Zuka's sudden appearance more of a pleasant and impacting surprise. Things happen so quickly that before you can add 2 and 2 together and see 4 arising on the horizon... she's already arrived! It's more entertaining and impacting this way. It's worth the "bit rushed" tradeoff I think. Quote:
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Thankfully, Shirobako's lowkey episodes nicely compliment the more hectic ones. Episode 22 compliments Episode 23.
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"Moe character design" is by and large just referring to modern design sensibilities; some people get very upset that anime doesn't look exactly the way it did in 1996. Quote:
More seriously, all you've really said in that effortpost is that... adult characters and younger characters are drawn differently? Yes, we know, thank you. Again, you're largely just pointing out modern design trends; you can easily see this as far back as Haruhi (and of course much earlier) which is long before people started complaining incessantly about moe. |
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Also, while moe designs are pretty ubiquitous these days, there is some stuff that doesn't fit in that mold, so it's worth pointing out the differences.
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You bring up Madoka Magica, like you often do, but consider that it had you guessing to the end, and the ending itself didn't come out of nowhere. Or consider PA Work's own gem in the sea, True Tears. Well, okay, I mean it got kinda dumb there but it really made you think that many possibilities were equal. Or Another; never mind, that's just stupid. Quote:
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I think I'll review the episode for reals. This new avatar is kinda cheesy but I think it should be done for a bit.
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