Princess Lover

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by Manji Midou

why so much un-needed hate for charlotte? aside from the political aspect is it because she's too friendly with teppei? it's not all her fault..
1) she met teppei first and not in the most normal of circumstances, she most likely came to like him a lot.
2) she finds out he is her friend's fiance through an arrange marriage... seeing as how she doesn't see sylvia to be remotely interested in teppei ...she figures sylvia is in the same arranged marriage that she is in and that they both want no part off (this is just a hypothesis)
3) she just recently had a heart to heart talk with the three other girls, they all confess to love teppei. sylvia does not mind and says she will be fine with whoever he falls for. that's pretty much sylvia giving the other girls the "ok" regarding teppei
4) teppei knows he is engaged and yet he prefers to flirt and seek out charlotte

I disagree they are friends and have been friends for a long time its about common courtesy and honestly common sense.
Read 4Tran's post on the previous page he said exactly what i feel about that whole situation.

Originally Posted by 4Tran

For me, episode 7 of Princess Lover brings up a few interesting thoughts. The first is that this show has no business talking about international politics since it's so very bad at it. The second is that Sylvia has good cause to be ticked off at Charlotte. They're supposed to be good friends, but Charlotte refused to tell her about her engagement and refused to explain why she did so despite being asked point blank. Even a "Sorry, but it's something I really don't want to talk about." would be a much better response than her handwaving non-answer. It's not exactly what a friend is supposed to do. Third, making the fiance of a potential lover loud and overbearing is a poor piece of storytelling. It automatically eliminates the level of threat that such a relationship is supposed to engender regardless of what the show wants to say about it. There's also no increase in romantic tension since we all know that the new guy is a total non-factor.

On the rest, the new development is decently interesting, but I'm rather more curious about how it will tie into the characters. It really only seems to work with Sylvia since Charlotte is firmly stuck in the damsel-in-distress role.

1. I dont think it really matters who met who first. If the situation were reversed and it was Sylvia who was acting like this I would be as equally disgusted by her attitude about it.

2.Why should she assume anything when they have been friends since childhood? She could have asked it would have been the polite thing to do. But in Charlotte's defense she did try to probe later on about how Sylvia felt about the marriage and Sylvia became introverted and didnt say much thats all on Sylvia.

3. True they all admitted they had feelings for Teppei truthfully and honestly so why then did she still hide the fact that she had a finance? Her excuse of "not wanting to talk about it" is rubbish all the other girls were honest. However once again in her defense Sylvia not speaking up can be seen as encouragement for Charlotte to continue her behavior.

4. He is a male character in harem anime there is nothing else to be said on this one lol.

[DragoZERO]

Originally Posted by golthin

he is talking about sylvia

My statement still stands.

[zato_1one]

I can't resist thinking about one of the anime trope when watching Ep8 preview.

A sword can fight a group of machine guns.

[Manji Midou]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

1. I dont think it really matters who met who first. If the situation were reversed and it was Sylvia who was acting like this I would be as equally disgusted by her attitude about it.

I'm sorry what?
So you're saying there's a guy/girl/ferret/turtle you fancy... but due to some circumstances you are not able to spend much time with said person....some time goes by... you run into this person again and later you find out your friend also likes the person....you are going to just ignore your feelings for your friend?
If so good fo you, but l'm not going to throw away my happiness an later have regrets of what could had been....

lt's a thing to be a nuisance when you get in the way where said person wants to create/improve a relationship with your friend... then that would be wrong. Then there's the other where the person your friend likes doesn't seem tofeel the same way about your friend... and you see your friend do nothing to change this? You are saying you would ignore your own feelings and just forget about said person.
Case in point aside from them being forced into an engagement neither teppei/sylvia have acted like a couple... tried to act one or get to know each other more.

Originally Posted by Sinestra

2.Why should she assume anything when they have been friends since childhood? She could have asked it would have been the polite thing to do. But in Charlotte's defense she did try to probe later on about how Sylvia felt about the marriage and Sylvia became introverted and didnt say much thats all on Sylvia. .

Well you answered your own question right there.

Originally Posted by Sinestra

3. True they all admitted they had feelings for Teppei truthfully and honestly so why then did she still hide the fact that she had a finance? Her excuse of "not wanting to talk about it" is rubbish all the other girls were honest. However once again in her defense Sylvia not speaking up can be seen as encouragement for Charlotte to continue her behavior.
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How can you hide something that wasn't ever asked of you? ( that night)
why would you want to talk about a subject that dampers your mood, and really was it a good time for sylvia to ask right there in the open infront of everyone?
like l said there are things you rather not talk about...and if you wish to talk about it l don't think you would want an audience. Charlotte was more talkative once she was alone with sylvia... not that whatever she did say was in any way informative

Originally Posted by Sinestra

4. He is a male character in harem anime there is nothing else to be said on this one lol.

wait so this gets him off the hook, for his actions?

[cheshire]

Originally Posted by Manji Midou

I'm sorry what?
So you're saying there's a guy/girl/ferret/turtle you fancy... but due to some circumstances you are not able to spend much time with said person....some time goes by... you run into this person again and later you find out your friend also likes the person....you are going to just ignore your feelings for your friend?
If so good fo you, but l'm not going to throw away my happiness an later have regrets of what could had been....

Chill. No one's saying Charlotte should throw away her happiness. The least she could do, as a friend to Sylvia (I mean they have been friends for how long already and dumb as Charlotte usually is, for her not to notice that her actions are affecting Sylvia is way cruel), is to talk to her. Have a heart-to-heart. Whatever. Just talk and stop going behind Sylvia's back because as far as she knows, they're still engaged and it's nothing short of humiliating to be treated as if she were being cuckolded.

In short, common decency. Charlotte doesn't have it.

I'm still hoping we'd get some character development on her, but the way the show's going, I'm kinda having doubts.

[Justin Kim]

I mean just because Charlotte's role/play has been a bit more extended than Sylvia's it does not necssarily conclude that this will be a Charlotte route all the way. I mean the agreement at the onsen, just deliberately hinted at a harem kind of route, which I speculate more likely to happen than the Charlotte route.

Besides, Teppei invited Charlotte to discuss things and to increase their relationship, but not so in a sense to reject all the other girls.

[DragoZERO]

Teppei also never officially accepted the marriage proposal, nor did Sylvia.. so yeah. You can't be saying bad stuff in that area.

[Foreshadow]

Originally Posted by DragoZERO

Teppei also never officially accepted the marriage proposal, nor did Sylvia.. so yeah. You can't be saying bad stuff in that area.

I do Think that Vincent and Issin are under the impression that they are though. And good for Teppei for at least wanting to explore the option rather then outright rejecting it.

[golthin]

Originally Posted by Foreshadow

I do Think that Vincent and Issin are under the impression that they are though. And good for Teppei for at least wanting to explore the option rather then outright rejecting it.

You are correct, teppei asked if he could reject it and he was told he could ANYTIME, so he has not done it yet. Of course once he accepts the engagement he still can cancel but then it would be bad form. So he has not accepted or rejected it yet. this way he won't insult Sylvia if he rejects her and if it happens he falls in love with her then he still can enjoy the bliss of having her.


In Charlotte's case, it is more difficult because she is actually engaged.

[Sinestra]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Manji Midou

I'm sorry what?
So you're saying there's a guy/girl/ferret/turtle you fancy... but due to some circumstances you are not able to spend much time with said person....some time goes by... you run into this person again and later you find out your friend also likes the person....you are going to just ignore your feelings for your friend?
If so good fo you, but l'm not going to throw away my happiness an later have regrets of what could had been.

You missed my point i dont care who met who first. Thats like 2 guys calling dibs over a girl they both happen to see. My point is not who met who it a matter of being polite being decent. Just because you like someone doesnt give you the right to be rude to your friend. Like i said this is not a Charlotte thing its a human thing.

Well you answered your own question right there.

Yes I did i was just playing devil advocate but a person with common sense would know the right thing to do in this case.

How can you hide something that wasn't ever asked of you? ( that night)
why would you want to talk about a subject that dampers your mood, and really was it a good time for sylvia to ask right there in the open infront of everyone?
like l said there are things you rather not talk about...and if you wish to talk about it l don't think you would want an audience. Charlotte was more talkative once she was alone with sylvia... not that whatever she did say was in any way informative

So Charlotte has not apprehensions about hanging all over Teppei in school ending in up in very provocative situations in and around school but when someone calls her on her BS she gets shy. The people that were around were the people that were already involved or know of the situation at hand. The way she talked to Sylvia was just down right rude and even in the aftermath she hardly said anything to make up for it. Sylvia felt there were more important matters to be discussed. She hid the fact that she was engaged if she did not purposely hide it she would not have said sorry. The right thing to do was to come clean and say she was engaged but she liked Teppei that would have been the honest thing to do.

My problem is not Charlotte winning or not its how she treats others in order to get that goal.

wait so this gets him off the hook, for his actions?

Well it seemed appropriate but no i actually dont find Teppei to be a very good male lead hes just following the formula thats been laid out for him.

[kujoe]

Originally Posted by Justin Kim

I mean just because Charlotte's role/play has been a bit more extended than Sylvia's it does not necssarily conclude that this will be a Charlotte route all the way. I mean the agreement at the onsen, just deliberately hinted at a harem kind of route, which I speculate more likely to happen than the Charlotte route.

I think the chances for an open-ended ending is still good enough actually.

For one thing, there's the onsen episode that solidifies each girl's standing between each other, and now we have a more collective effort in trying to resolve Charlotte's route, which I may add, isn't exactly the same one from the game. In fact, it's so different from the game's scenario, not to mention that Silvia's route seems to be related in some way now as well.

More than before, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the anime will be striving for an original conclusion. But yes, I still think that Charlotte has the biggest chance so far, unless her conflict gets resolved soon.

[Wrath88]

How about we just see what's everyone's opinion of how this will go? I'm not asking about who its going to end with (we'd never hear the end of that), but rather:
1. Anime-original plot of assassination, etc. will be wrapped up in a) next few episodes, b) end of the series?
2. a) Mixed plot themes (Relationship with action part) or b) Separated (Deal with one, then switch to the other)

Hmmm, 1 and 2 are quite linked though, but what do you guys think?

[RaiMinakami]

I really love the anime version of princess lover...
But... I wonder if someone will release an uncensored version...
The Blackening and mosaics kinda ruins the whole fan service
in the show...

[Renegade334]

Princess Lover! episode 08 (tentative)

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[Johnny]

Breasticles of all that's holy...!!!

Spoiler for ep8 pic:

Where the hell has she been hiding them...?

[Manji Midou]

Originally Posted by Johnny

Breasticles of all that's holy...!!!

Spoiler for ep8 pic:

Where the hell has she been hiding them...?

She's getting desperate...and got a boob job...

[justinstrife]

Not looking good for Sylvia's chances.

Not that I was expecting a miracle or anything. -sigh-

[serenade_beta]

......................................*smacks head on desk*

Spoiler for ep8:

I think I just saw a terribly cheap drama...

Anyways... Well... Yeah...
I'm glad the series didn't focus a lot of time on the whole nukes thing this time, but how do I say it... Just made me facepalm myself over the entire thing. Thought it was a serious development/episode, but over half was a comedy. The terrorists were....................... stupid too.
The secretary was evil?! NO-WAY!
And the biggest mystery was why Saber's and Charlotte's breasts kept changing size as the episode went along...

And Charlotte's fiance is dead? No way, right? Just gonna kill him off like that?

The entire thing where Teppei hugs Charlotte and reunites with her wasn't exactly amusing either.
For now, I haven't seen Charlotte do anything useful recently... She was as brilliant as a rock as ever this episode too, having a rather conversation with the terrorist with a cheap dramatic story and telling Teppei there was a bomb in the building so late.

..........................
W-well... As long as I throw away any attachment to the characters, it is an entertaining series. I try to figure out what to take seriously or not... and I start to get as confusing as I did in that hot springs episode...

The worst thing... is that this terrorist story is STILL IS GOING TO CONTINUE...

[Manji Midou]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep8:

And Charlotte's fiance is dead? No way, right? Just gonna kill him off like that?

l guess this screams...

Spoiler:

a even more possible charlottexteppei ending.
* takes out champagne bottle and hands S_B a glass*
3 more eps till my celebration parade >_>;

[Sinestra]

Spoiler for Episode 8 (warning i am RAGING):

I cant believe i just watched this. Honestly, this was the worst episode by far and its still not over. I am currently holding ice on my forehead because of the sheer amount times i face palmed during the episode. The plot basically was stupid yep thats the only word i can actually use STUPID. One again Charlotte does what shes best at Nothing and Sylvia well your breast got bigger then they got smaller then they got bigger again i didnt know they could do that wait Charlotte has this power too? is this power limited to only them?"note to self more research necessary"

So to make it easier for Teppei and Charlotte to get together they kill off her fiancee. This was one of the worst ideas iv seen since someone thought Dragonaut would make a good series. How contrived can you get? The only part that actually had me laughing was the DAMN BIKE Who would have thought the secretary was evil i had no clue what was the point of the conversation Charlotte had with the terrorist? why was terrorist talking her? how in the world did the terrorist not want to jump out the window after that conversation why why WHY !!

Charlotte and Teppei reunion almost made me lose my lunch on my keyboard and the fact that she waited to tell him about the bomb im not going to touch that one. THe worst part is the whole scenario is not over we are going to get more. At this point i dont give a rats ass who wins just as long as it ends and since iv come this far i cant drop it now sigh god i need a drink

after this episode my over score for Prince Lover is not going to be anything higher 6.5 or 7 and that depends on how they finish it out.