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Though it seems that most of the info was directly translated from Nanohawiki, which imho has a higher level of credulity than en.wikipedia. For all we know, it could be the the Tome of the Night Sky that sparked of the death of the Homeworld and the Cradle was converted into a fugitive ship for the luckier ones. But that's just yet another piece of speculation, on my part . On a sidenote, I think re-watching the entire series (all three of it) might help some of us to get back in touch with the spirit of Nanoha. Or at least, that's my own prescription for myself .
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2008-06-18, 12:35 | Link #1425 | ||
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And on a related note, are there any objections to giving Iris a bunch of different elemental spells but no elemental alignment? I've noted that Chrono's wiki entry claims he's particularly skilled with elemental conversion, and I was thinking of giving Iris a similar ability boosted by her Unison, sort of the elemental version of a jack of all trades.
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2008-06-18, 12:38 | Link #1426 |
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May be true, but we also have no idea how long Jail has been in possession of the Cradle. This leads to the possibility that he had time to analyze and create his own clones/versions of the original Type 4 Gadget Drones (as they were only hostile to Bureau mages and not his own Combat Cyborgs). In other words...the drones that attacked Nanoha and Vita could have very well been of Jail's creation. Though if that was true...it leads to the possibility that all of his drones are in fact based off of or copied from designs of Ancient Belka found in the Cradle...
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2008-06-18, 13:12 | Link #1428 |
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...you know what, looking back at this "RF6 Popularity" debate between Goose and Kero, I've just realized that I most likely didn't make my intentions clear enough judging by the arguments being made.
I'm sorry if I didn't make this clear to begin with, but my intention was never to have RF6 be universally loved and respected by bureau forces (maybe the grunts, but definitely not the higher-ups); Goose is absolutely right, there's no way in hell that this would ever happen. What I had envisioned was that RF6 was going through a trial period of sorts which would determine whether or not it was worth keeping around as a new unit. Now in canon, ultimately it was decided that RF6 served its' purpose and was disbanded because they didn't have enough support to keep functioning as a unit once the JS Incident was over. All that would be needed for the unit to keep functioning here would be for a few more people to decide that yes, RF6 is worth keeping around, allowing the unit to squeak by and continue functioning, if only by the skin of its' teeth. From here, they would be called in to work on assignments that normal units can't handle, sort of like how SWAT handles situations that normal police aren't equipped for or otherwise can't handle, but with a jack of all trades feel to the unit; the resident Enforcer and Special Investigations Officer are there to assist with criminal investigations, there's plenty of firepower for the group to serve as an ordinary military unit, and the group has a great deal of experience dealing with Lost Logia, which covers the three biggest areas bureau forces generally work in. It's kind of a moot point now, since Durandal is set to replace RF6 in Comacanon anyhow.... ...which brings me to another problem I'm having. Where do I fit the Aces into Durandal? There's already an established command structure and a group of highly-trained professionals here, so the Aces actually seem a little redundant as things stand right now. Should I drop Alex and Iris down to AA-ranks or manufacture a reason for them to require limiters or what? Last edited by Comartemis; 2008-06-18 at 13:28. |
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2008-06-18, 13:25 | Link #1430 | |
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My suggestion is this: Have it stand that way. The Aces are off doing their own thing, in whatever they specialize in. However, whenever the need arises, you can always just have it that the Aces, either just certain ones, or all of them be called in and temporarily assigned to Durandal for the duration of the mission. My other suggestion is to have the Aces be part of Durandal on paper, but then they are available to be 'loaned' out to other units. Sharing the wealth as it were.
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2008-06-18, 13:35 | Link #1432 | |
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Hmmm....
Well with the Carpathan Syndicate backing Jail up, it's entirely possible that headquarters would deem him a much greater threat than they did in canon. Perhaps the Aces form RF6 as a naval unit a short while prior to StrikerS, but when Jail begins to show an interest in operating in ground forces territory, the group is given permission to operate planetside on the condition that they will answer to one of the resident groups assigned to dealing with the situation; in short, Jail's greater firepower and resources are countered by a joint Durandal/RF6 task force of sorts. Quote:
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2008-06-18, 15:41 | Link #1435 |
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Hmm, small point on handing off the shroud, he doesn't really need to. All he needed was the genetic data. Once he has that data, he can keep the shroud and spread the data. (also, reviewing StrikerS 20 has jail saying that the 'seed' was duplicated in a number of research facillities around the dimensions. This could mean that there are more Seiou clones out there, though it was also noted that Artificial Mage projects have a high failure rate).
Double check, Jail definetely didn't create Vivio, she was being smuggled in episode 10 alongside a few Relics. Jail and Uno can be seen discussing whether the destruction of the drones mean that they were 'lucky' (refering to a succesfull seiou clone). Of course, Comacanon is Comacanon, so you could always say Jail was more causious here. |
2008-06-18, 15:52 | Link #1436 |
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*Shrugs*
Ultimately it's not all that relevant to what I have planned. The possibilities I had mentioned were the possibility that Nanoha's accident was set up by someone in the Carpathan Syndicate besides Jail, but in Comacanon the Nanoha Incident happens during the Carpathan Incident when Nanoha is forced to fight at her full power under a powerful AMF. Her body breaks down, Fate takes a near-fatal hit for her, and Hayate and the Wolks pull them out and retreat. In the aftermath, Nanoha speaks to General Zead Norton (leader of the task force assigned to handle the Incident) and is forced to consider the dreams vs friends issue. Ultimately, she decides that "dreams change in time, but friends are friends forever" and resolves to stick with Fate and Hayate no matter where they may go in life. She's never given cause to regret her choice, especially once she and Fate grow up a little and the hormones start to kick in.... Needless to say, Comacanon is rocketing down the Nano/Fate path at breakneck speed.
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2008-06-18, 16:05 | Link #1437 |
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Just be carefull with those hormones. Nanoha and Fate getting busy in situations such thoughts would be far from their minds reads weird. Like that one fic in the FF thread where Nanoha and Fate were getting it on in the school part of the Saint Church.
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2008-06-18, 16:10 | Link #1438 |
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Haven't read that one, but I'll keep the warning in mind. I'm unsure of my ability to write a believable romance, so any sappy moments will get an extra critical examination when I eventually get around to writing them.
*EDIT* Ah, I think I've just figured out which mech Teana's armor is going to be based off of. Who's up for Teana + the X42S Destiny Gundam? Wings of Light, bitch!
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2008-06-18, 16:29 | Link #1440 |
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Think you could come up with something better, ghaz? I'm no Gundam nut, but I thought Destiny (both the Gundam and the series in general) was pretty awesome. Apparently I'm mostly alone in that regard...
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