2014-08-05, 14:26 | Link #1562 |
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Yeah it is highly possible they do that if we take into account ufotables Rin fetish. In my opinion if they want to expand something, it should be Archers backstory, because after all, all key events of the route are defined by Archer so its important to understand his character and past. I do think the VN did a good job with explaining Archers situation but still if they add original content I personally think it should be to expand on Archer.
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2014-08-05, 14:55 | Link #1565 |
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Hindsight is 20/20, but thinking back now, there were two hints that they would be going for UBW for the upcoming anime.
1. They said they wanted to develop Shirou properly as a main character (He gets massive development in UBW) 2. Ufotable had Rin fetish as seen in FZ... |
2014-08-05, 15:04 | Link #1567 |
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Im glad they did decide to adapt UBW. UBW!Shirou is my favourite version of Shirou and Archer is my favourite character in the visual novel. I always thought UBW was the route that was the least likely to be adapted by ufotable, Im glad I was wrong.
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2014-08-05, 21:12 | Link #1568 |
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I would think it's obvious why they chose not to adapt the Fate route and why it wouldn't work well. F/Z Saber and Fate Saber is a complete 180. They want to keep Saber's badass warrior persona, and that isn't happening with Fate Shirou around (though I do prefer Saber's gentler side).
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2014-08-05, 21:44 | Link #1569 |
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Actually, the japanese cares more about Fate Saber rather than zero with her "badass warrior" persona. It's only the fate/0 only watchers from the west that didn't play the VN that obviously prefer zero saber. So I don't think that's the reason they chose not to adapt Fate.
As said before, it's most probably they want to portray shirou properly that they chose UBW since it is his and archer route, rather than Fate which is more or less Saber-only route. |
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It was in the LN, yes, but they expanded it significantly. I think that that was at least partially out of necessity, though, because they couldn't cut it out (it's required to allow Kariya to meet with Aoi) and they couldn't fit it in as part of an episode between two other events.
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2. You are correct about this, Nasu does want to keep Archer´s past vague and it´s highly unlikely they add original content in the anime to expand his story, however my point was that it would actually be an addition that adds something meaningful to the story since after all, this is an UBW adaption. He and Shirou are the center of UBW´s story. Last edited by Raziel1991; 2014-08-06 at 04:09. |
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2014-08-06, 05:18 | Link #1572 |
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The only ways I can think of right now to include Sakura in UBW are the following:
1. Sakura's story gets "resolved" by her death and by extension Zouken could also be killed off 2. Shinji (who felt like nothing more than a personified plot device in this route) is somehow replaced by Sakura in the end (i.e. Rin saves Sakura instead of Shinji). Because of the grail growing out of her, Zouken worms are somehow eliminated as well |
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On 1. You could move Rin's investigation of Matou household into UBW. Why isn't it ever questioned how could Shinji summon Rider in the first place? You could include her contacting Kotomine to help her get rid of Zouken, or just let Archer or Rin rip him to shreds, while giving Sakura a "false" saving, making UBW true a little easier to swallow(because rin had no way of knowing the heart worm secret).Having Sakura die just to make sure Zouken is really dead requires the knowledge of the entire HF route, and on it's own it just...well for me sadism:P 2. The second could work, but Sakura is the same as Illya.She arleady has a part of grail inside her, so forcing Illya's heart into her won't result into a cute shinji grail-kun.You would have to ommit the whole incomplete grail bussines, making ubw climax more like Fate one. I am not against it, but it would require major rework, and really alters the plot (Kotomine has no reason to appear in Einsbern mansion, killing Illya is stupid etc) Last edited by scyllus; 2014-08-06 at 06:18. |
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2014-08-06, 07:35 | Link #1577 |
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I doubt Cherry_Lover would like Method 1, but it would still be a way, to ADD it to the story (i.e. "original scenes by Nasu"), without CHANGING the existing one.
Method 2 would change the story though, that is true, but considering how Shinji felt almost non-existent here and Rin saving him somehow felt.... underwhelming? It could maybe work somehow, but maybe not... urgh my head. |
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2014-08-06, 08:14 | Link #1580 | |
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And that was even BEFORE I read HF, which was the "finishing move" for him (in my mind). |
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