2011-08-14, 21:16 | Link #15801 |
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Depends on what their intent initially was (and assuming they're armed with a gun and not a knife). If they were only intending to steal, and you pull a gun and don't immediately use it, there's a high chance that the culprit will panic and do something they never intended to do. Hell, even if you don't pull it and merely motion toward a gun that they can see could lead to that situation. And I'd say the number of non-criminals who actually have a gun and are able to fire it (psychologically, not physically) at another human are much lower than the number of criminals who would.
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I live in Colorado, we know why it was as bad as it was. The response time by the Sheriff dept was not acceptable. Quote:
A determined, well armed, and organized individual will do immense amounts of carnage. That's the problem. Gun-control really doesn't help at all. What can stop these people is the proverbial "64 million dollar" question. No one has come up with an answer for that yet. Quote:
Strange thing about the US. We ban dogs, well primarily pit bulls here in Colorado. I can walk into my local gun shop and buy an AR-15, so long as I don't have a pitbull. Quote:
Citizens who are law abiding, and are willing to train to use them, should be allowed permits to own and carry firearms for their protection. No one should have to live in dangerous conditions. I've lived in parts of Denver that absolutely required me to own a firearm for protection. I would have been crazy not to have one and a permit to carry. So again, the society you live in greatly effects the effectiveness of gun-control. Quote:
There were three of them at a 7/11 in downtown Commerce City. Here to be exact: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rl...ed=0CBIQnwIwAA Fortunately, after I brandished my pistol, they didn't try to rush me with the knives they had. I don't know if I could have gotten them both fast enough (the two with the knives). I don't ever want to be in that situation again, gun or no gun. __________________________________________________ ______ And now for some actual news. Since this IS a news thread. My apologies to the Mods. I don't try to be a trouble maker...honestly. Death toll rises in Indiana State Fair stage collapse http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...77D07E20110814 Gallup: Obama job rating sinks below 40% for first time
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2011-08-14, 22:15 | Link #15803 |
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Time Warner to buy Insight for $3 billion:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...77D30220110815
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2011-08-14, 22:19 | Link #15804 |
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Wow, here's an op-ed by Maureen that I can agree with.
Power to the Corporation! http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/op...tion.html?_r=1
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I will admit that America seems to produce more violent psychopaths who want to attack schools. Don't know how to explain that, and I doubt tighter gun controls would prevent that, as those types are determined. But it would prevent most of the gang violence. Quote:
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On a side note, the ROTC guys were very nice. I had classes with a few. In fact, they were probably one of the least jingoistic groups on that campus, which is interesting. V tech is a really nice place generally, actually. EDIT: just to sum up my view on guns, in principle I see little wrong with allowing law abiding citizens access to guns, I think doing so opens a floodgates that means it's extremely easy for low level street thugs to get their hands on them. You just need one or two bad eggs with gun licenses. Obviously guns are still out there, and you can't stop the worst crimes, but I think it stops more "casual" gun crime. Last edited by DonQuigleone; 2011-08-14 at 22:37. |
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2011-08-14, 22:34 | Link #15806 |
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Thank you for that DQ.
It clarifies a great deal, and certainly is fun to exchange information with people across the Atlantic. I see that you've got some seriously bad new this weekend over in England. My condolences to the families of the six people killed. Six killed in Jersey knife attack http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/8701...fe-attack.html
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2011-08-14, 22:45 | Link #15808 |
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In terms of campus ruckus, the largest (and weirdest) was by far Berkeley's college campus. I've only been their twice and the weirdness was just too much to even explain. Sure the classrooms are fine and from what I understand the farther north you go on the campus (towards the computer science buildings) the more "normal" it gets...but the place is just too weird for me. Also last time I was there (when I think was a about 15 years ago) the area around the campus was also too weird. Maybe they've cleaned it up since then, but there seemed like a lot of homeless types right around there and the used bookstore just off campus. That or they were former students left behind from the late 1960s that never bothered to leave...since they all gave off the image of "old hippies". (Other with us said they saw the "naked man" or maybe a streeker that supposedly was a fixture in the area.)
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2011-08-15, 07:00 | Link #15809 |
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I certainly wasn't talking about Cold War era Eastern Europe (France isn't the only country to have had socialist governments). Neither was Mentar. Neither should you, when you're talking about "Fabian Socialism", or contemporary European Social Democracy.
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2011-08-15, 07:11 | Link #15810 |
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Somalis suffer and die as Islamists ban ‘infidel’ aid
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2129278/
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2011-08-15, 09:18 | Link #15814 | |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14530543
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2011-08-15, 10:14 | Link #15815 | |
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Though I find it quite interesting that Google was trolling other companies during the Nortel bids a few months ago and now it is spending money on an established tech-corp : seems to me like they are gunning to be an NWO through the control of the Internets.
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Warren is an old school Liberal from what I can tell of the man. He's not "New Left" nor is he "Neo-Liberal." I agree with most of what he said in that article. Quote:
In other news: Don't take a wizz on the side of the road in Oakland. Oakland Officer Shoots Suspect In Alleged Assault And Public Urination http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...lic-urination/ Gloating China, Hidden Problems http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...-problems.html
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2011-08-15, 11:35 | Link #15817 |
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http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/08/15/...mormon-themes/
A Virginia school district has banned a book on the legendary sleuther for how it portrays the Mormon faith. Last week, the Albemarle County School Board removed Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's first Sherlock Holmes novel, A Study in Scarlet, from its sixth-grade reading list. Several former middle school students opposed the removal of the Victorian-era text, one calling it “the best book I have read so far,” but the mystery novel was nonetheless booted.
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A fair number of the "super-rich" *remember* that if they push too hard, the guillotines might come out. Caustic jerks like the Koch brothers think they're insulated from that scenario.
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2011-08-15, 12:05 | Link #15819 | |
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2011-08-15, 12:20 | Link #15820 |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/16/ar...1&ref=business
When copyright law was revised in the mid-1970s, musicians, like creators of other works of art, were granted “termination rights,” which allow them to regain control of their work after 35 years, so long as they apply at least two years in advance. Recordings from 1978 are the first to fall under the purview of the law, but in a matter of months, hits from 1979, like “The Long Run” by the Eagles and “Bad Girls” by Donna Summer, will be in the same situation — and then, as the calendar advances, every other master recording once it reaches the 35-year mark. The provision also permits songwriters to reclaim ownership of qualifying songs. Bob Dylan has already filed to regain some of his compositions, as have other rock, pop and country performers like Tom Petty, Bryan Adams, Loretta Lynn, Kris Kristofferson, Tom Waits and Charlie Daniels, according to records on file at the United States Copyright Office. “In terms of all those big acts you name, the recording industry has made a gazillion dollars on those masters, more than the artists have,” said Don Henley, a founder both of the Eagles and the Recording Artists Coalition, which seeks to protect performers’ legal rights. “So there’s an issue of parity here, of fairness. This is a bone of contention, and it’s going to get more contentious in the next couple of years.” With the recording industry already reeling from plummeting sales, termination rights claims could be another serious financial blow. Sales plunged to about $6.3 billion from $14.6 billion over the decade ending in 2009, in large part because of unauthorized downloading of music on the Internet, especially of new releases, which has left record labels disproportionately dependent on sales of older recordings in their catalogs. “This is a life-threatening change for them, the legal equivalent of Internet technology,” said Kenneth J. Abdo, a lawyer who leads a termination rights working group for the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences and has filed claims for some of his clients, who include Kool and the Gang. As a result the four major record companies — Universal, Sony BMG, EMI and Warner — have made it clear that they will not relinquish recordings they consider their property without a fight. can't have happen to a better group.
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