Persona 3

[Hemisphere]

Hmm. Let's see.

Spoiler:

1.- Kinda funny that in the very first anime scene of the game, the MC is listening to the same theme that plays during the final battle. Also, how come the MC didn't even bat an eyelash after walking during the Dark Hour from the station to the dorm? -_-

2.- WTF was Yukari doing in that same anime scene trying to shoot herself with her Evoker when it wasn't the Dark Hour? o_O I thought that the Persona deal only worked during that period of time and not in any random moment.

3.- When the MC first awakes his Persona, Orpheous, the reason that Thanatos also appeared was because all the deal of Ryouji being inside of him or what? Since the thing appears ripping from the inside Orpheous and the MC looks like is suffering a massive headache. I didn't quite get the meaning of this after learning the truth of Ryouji and I have understood it was only due to the ability of the MC to change between Personas.

4.- In the final battle, I suppose the final Arcana card with which Igor is so surprised that appeared is the one of The World... right? Also, the Velvet Room was like an elevator... to where did it arrived at the end of the game?

5.- How come Aigis can shed tears if she is a freaking robot?

6.- What I understood from the ending was that everybody did remember their promise of meeting each other in the Graduation Day and therefore, all the events of their last year, however, I wonder what was their reaction by seeing the MC in coma or dead in the lap of Aigis.
I have spoilered myself by seeing some clips of the Aigis Episode and comments claiming that the MC indeed sacrificed himself at the end of P3. My question is what are more or less the series of events in that game? I was especially interested in the scenes where the... MC appears above the group, pointing at a statue of... himself in some kind of wall and one big badass looking creature seizing it, that and what I suppose is the end of that game, in the form of yet another anime cutscene that shows all the SEES members leaving the dorm.

Spoiler:

1. Simple. He didn't know anything about it, and to him, nothing felt out of the ordinary.

2. She was 'rehearsing', if you will. Trying to get herself accustomed to using the Evoker in 'that particular manner', even if it wouldn't have any effect.

3. Pharos woke up. Since Pharos' duty is to gather all of the twelve Shadows inside of him, he forcefully emerged from Minato in order to 'claim' what is his - the Shadow representing the Fool.

4. Yep, it's The World. Also, I think that the whole elevator that Igor and Elizabeth are on represents Minato's search for 'truth', if you will, as to why he has the power to use Personas. In a sense, the people who are in the Velvet Room are granted power, and they are to figure out why they are granted that power. The Velvet Room represents that search, IMO.

5. Deus ex machina, I guess.

6. No, he doesn't point to the statue. The whole group was taken back in time to witness the moment that Minato used The World, which shows him creating a great seal in order to keep humanity's destructive thoughts away from Nyx, with him acting as its failsafe. The monster is humanity's destructive thoughts, and it's what Minato is actually sealing away, not Nyx.

[Satomi87]

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[beamknight87]

Originally Posted by Erhjegel

Hmm. Let's see.

Spoiler:

1. Simple. He didn't know anything about it, and to him, nothing felt out of the ordinary.

2. She was 'rehearsing', if you will. Trying to get herself accustomed to using the Evoker in 'that particular manner', even if it wouldn't have any effect.

3. Pharos woke up. Since Pharos' duty is to gather all of the twelve Shadows inside of him, he forcefully emerged from Minato in order to 'claim' what is his - the Shadow representing the Fool.

4. Yep, it's The World. Also, I think that the whole elevator that Igor and Elizabeth are on represents Minato's search for 'truth', if you will, as to why he has the power to use Personas. In a sense, the people who are in the Velvet Room are granted power, and they are to figure out why they are granted that power. The Velvet Room represents that search, IMO.

5. Deus ex machina, I guess.

6. No, he doesn't point to the statue. The whole group was taken back in time to witness the moment that Minato used The World, which shows him creating a great seal in order to keep humanity's destructive thoughts away from Nyx, with him acting as its failsafe. The monster is humanity's destructive thoughts, and it's what Minato is actually sealing away, not Nyx.

Mmm interesting, but then...

Spoiler for spoiler:

What happened to Nyx? Defeating the Nyx Avatar was enough to repel it or what? Or when the MC created that seal also at the same time defeats it?

[Hemisphere]

Originally Posted by beamknight87

Mmm interesting, but then...

Spoiler for spoiler:

What happened to Nyx? Defeating the Nyx Avatar was enough to repel it or what? Or when the MC created that seal also at the same time defeats it?

He really didn't 'beat it', per se. It's like this.

Spoiler:

1. Dark thoughts of humanity summon Nyx.
2. Nyx starts to bring about 'The Fall' because he was summoned.
3. Minato seals away the reason for Nyx's summon, breaking the link between humanity and Nyx as well as the reason for bringing about the Fall.
4. Without Nyx's reason for coming into this world, Nyx goes and returns to eternal sleep.

[U<3Anime]

Originally Posted by beamknight87

Mmm interesting, but then...

Spoiler for spoiler:

What happened to Nyx? Defeating the Nyx Avatar was enough to repel it or what? Or when the MC created that seal also at the same time defeats it?

Spoiler for <___>hmmm:

Nyx cannot be destroyed if I'm correct. Since the main character is being a barrier between Nyx and the humans negative thoughts, you can say the humans are temporarily safe. (As long the barrier doesnt break, or else Nyx will start invading earth again). I'm really bad at explaining, but as an example. Imagine your bro is trying to bulge into your room because he's want to use your comp. But you don't want him to, so your leaning back against the door to prevent him from coming in, while your bro is trying to barge in, just so he can use your comp. I hope that made sense. >_< If it didn't, then i suggest you to watch the cut scenes from the FES expansion pack, since it basically explains how the whole barrier things works. Also, you will eventually get to fight the monster that represents all the bad thoughts(or negative feelings =/) as a final boss


But yea, lets just say Nyx "walks away" since there is nothing attracting it anymore (Unless, the seal breaks and everybody is being depressed again)

[Hemisphere]

Yeah, it's pretty darn hard to beat Death, but there are other ways of overcoming it (in a sense).

[MeganeShounen]

I do wonder how did the MC exactly get the "Wild" ability, or the ability to swap Personas...

Perhaps it's somehow related to how the rest of the human cast get their Personas to "evolve"(I say human, since Koromaru doesn't undergo the Persona transformation)? Emotional and mentality change?

[Hemisphere]

I'm pretty sure that the ability was uniquely his, and it wasn't part of the contract that he signed with Pharos, nor with Igor. At least, that's what I gather according to the info floating around on the net. How Aegis got it, I'm not sure.

[beamknight87]

mmm I see, thanks for all the responses. Guess now everything makes more sense, even more given I found a summary of the Aigis Episode that explained in general terms what happens there. Still, I can't help but to feel sad about what the MC had to do -_-

[HurricaneHige]

Originally Posted by beamknight87

mmm I see, thanks for all the responses. Guess now everything makes more sense, even more given I found a summary of the Aigis Episode that explained in general terms what happens there. Still, I can't help but to feel sad about what the MC had to do -_-

Don't we all, but Megaten games are like that...they just can't have a happy ending, ever.

Spoiler for Aigis:

In ep Aigis, they explain that Aigis can shed tears because after how deeply MC's "death" affected her, she is now more "human" and tears is a sign of how her emotions have evolved. Kinda like Pinocchio.

[Oppius]

Is Akinari (The Sun Social Link) is a ghost?

Spoiler for The Sun subquest:

After I maxed The Sun social link,he just disappeared into thin air,like a ghost.Before that he said his story about pink alligator and flightless become friends.The alligator accidentally eat the bird and the bird died.The crocodile cry until he drowned by its own sea of tear.Many years have passed and his tear become beautiful lake which many animals live inside and near it.While both bird and alligator did not enjoy their life but other forest denizens did,even they don't have realize it.It just the same as Akinari himself did not enjoy it but the hero and other pople did.After that,he just disappeared into thin air.

[beamknight87]

I thought he was a ghost, since when you max the social link with him, even the MC gets a (!) sign above his head, meaning even him was startled.
On the other hand, I just knew that there's a manga of P3, a group called Gekkoukan High Scans recently released the first volume scanned and translated. It seemed quite good to me, being really faithful to the game.

[Hemisphere]

You can somewhat say that Akinari's fate is a foreshadowing of Minato's own 'future'.

[KKensei]

Being level 95 and fighting against Nyx= not much fun...=.='''

@ beamknight87: And to answer your 2nd question...I think it was already the dark hour when she tried using her evoker... I recall seeing blood on the ground....you know..the tartarus theme XD

[MeganeShounen]

Originally Posted by KKensei

Being level 95 and fighting against Nyx= not much fun...=.='''

@ beamknight87: And to answer your 2nd question...I think it was already the dark hour when she tried using her evoker... I recall seeing blood on the ground....you know..the tartarus theme XD

You know what's even worse?

Spoiler for The Guide for a Yawn-ful Nyx Avatar Fight:

1. Get Shujinkou and everyone else to Lv. 100, via the Monad Depths.
2. While in the Monad Depths, take your time to grab the Monad Depths-exclusive weapons and armor. (Star Shoes, Soul of Athena, etc.)
3. Also while in Monad Depths, get enough XP for Messiah to produce one of those nifty items like the Armor of Light. Even better if you saved Messiah's entry into the encyclopedia while he still has a Heart sign, and even MUCH better if he produces an Almighty Orb/Omnipotent Orb on the first shot.
4. If you managed to max out the necessary Social Links, create Satan and Lucifer. Satan + Lucifer + ??? = PROFIT, in terms of 9999 instant damage.
5. Did I mention that the Omnipotent Orb renders almost all attacks useless, and you can carry it over to your Clear Game data?

Sadly, I've only completed #3 there... I wanted to see the final scenes as fast as I can...

Edit: Fixed a Mix Raid back there...

[Hemisphere]

Don't you mean Lucifer and Satan?

[MeganeShounen]

@Erhjegel:
Gah. I missed that. Thanks a bunch. Darn Mix Raids...

And no, I wasn't able to get that certain spell on my first playthrough, sadly. Even though you really don't need it to fight the last boss, but it DOES help when fighting that certain "secret boss".

And I'm also taking the time in this post to express my utter jelousy on your rotating siggies filled with eroge-creamed moe and <3. Darn you Hemi, darn you. :P

[Hemisphere]

Yeah, Satan + Lucifer results in Mix Raid Arma.

You like the sigs? I'm actually thinking of adding even more...there's just too many to choose from. I just hope that Aroduc doesn't kill me. @_@

[solarknight123]

Don't know if there's a form like this, but i was wondering who else is a fan of this awsome game?

[Z3120]

There is actually right here.

Pretty good game. Too bad it's slightly inflated as much as Nocturne now on like ebay.