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tdx · 2017-01-20, 11:47

When Tekkadan gets the supreme governmental authority - or rather when Orga in particular gets that authority - it's obvious that he will have to rely heavily on Kudelia and their line of policy will have to be uniform, binding them together tighter than ever, and obviously it will be guided by Kudelia's fundamental principles that she's been pursuing since the beginning, that is, to do everything in her power to revive martian economy first and foremost. So let's just say that time will tell whether we're overestimating the importance of that "marriage" or not.

Tenzen12 · 2017-01-20, 12:24

They will not get "supreme authority". Mars has its own government and neither Kudelia nor Tekkadan are part of it. Whole this "King of Mars" deal is practically Orga replacing late Corral and administrate Gjalahorn obligations while receiving it's influence. Regardless they are no charity, though it's not impossible they will build another orphanage out of good will or something.

FBF · 2017-01-20, 22:44

I noticed when Azee and Echo were talking to some of the Tekkadan members at the beginning and said that they may never see them again....might mean they will both die....Crap!

At least Lafter was away speaking with Akihiro when that happened, so I at least hope she lives....even though I want Azee to live.

Skaddix · 2017-01-20, 23:09

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

They will not get "supreme authority". Mars has its own government and neither Kudelia nor Tekkadan are part of it. Whole this "King of Mars" deal is practically Orga replacing late Corral and administrate Gjalahorn obligations while receiving it's influence. Regardless they are no charity, though it's not impossible they will build another orphanage out of good will or something.

Mars has 4 Governments. And considering how Kudelia's Father was bowing and scrapping to Corral. Yeah taking his Job makes you King of Mars.

Tenzen12 · 2017-01-21, 01:00

Yes, but as Gjalahorn proxy, they aren't just supposed intervene, but right down forbidden intervene into inner working of blocks nor mess with its economy. Corral ignored that because he was corrupted bastard.

tdx · 2017-01-21, 02:03

The Martian governments are puppet. With her father being the head of Chryse and Makanai on her side, Kudelia is a shoe-in to take her father's place regardless of what might happen. But before that, the fact that Tekkadan gets to be at the helm means GH itself has been successfully reformed into 'a new organization with more freedom', to quote Macky, so I wouldn't be so sure that GH's guiding principles, including the non-interference policy, will stay the same by the time. In fact, McGillis' phrasing implies that they won't.

Tenzen12 · 2017-01-21, 02:10

Mackey want cleanse Gjalahorn of corruption and return to its roots, and I am pretty sure he is self aware enough know that legalisation of power abuse is not the way.

As for Kudelia we don't even know whether is she interested in becoming part of government in futures. She is quite busy with Admoss company and all half metals she needs ship out after all.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2017-01-21, 02:11

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Originally Posted by tdx

The Martian governments are puppet. With her father being the head of Chryse and Makanai on her side, Kudelia is a shoe-in to take her father's place regardless of what might happen.

That reminds me, we really need a closure to the Bernstein family matter. At the very least, I want Kudelia to confront Norman the sunovabitch who sold his own daughter. Maybe bring Mika along for some added impact

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Tenzen12 · 2017-01-21, 02:20

Yeah I am sure Hush bringing Mika on his shoulder will be very memorable

To be honest I don't think Kudelia parent really matter,she moved on and doing own things now. There is no really need hold grudge and waste her time on him. But we will see.

Skye629 · 2017-01-21, 03:41

After the amount of time that passed so far, I highly doubt they will touch on that little family matter

tdx · 2017-01-21, 04:45

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Mackey want cleanse Gjalahorn of corruption and return to its roots, and I am pretty sure he is self aware enough know that legalisation of power abuse is not the way.

As for Kudelia we don't even know whether is she interested in becoming part of government in futures. She is quite busy with Admoss company and all half metals she needs ship out after all.

It's not about legalization of power abuse or anything of the sort. More freedom in my understanding means, for example, things like building in the already clean and just GH as part of the legislative system so that they're not detached observers not allowed to do anything when they see trouble but have legal authority to deal with it. Not unlike the police. If you still don't think that by the time this series ends we'll see big political changes or at the very least the beginning of those changes all across the board, you'll be in for a surprise, I guess, since that's the whole point of the plotline around Kudelia which's now interwoven with Tekkadan's plotline.

Kudelia is doing business in order to be able to implement her political and economical reforms. The more political power and rights to make decisions she has, the more she can do for people. That's the very definition of a politician. And it should be really obvious, too.

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

That reminds me, we really need a closure to the Bernstein family matter. At the very least, I want Kudelia to confront Norman the sunovabitch who sold his own daughter. Maybe bring Mika along for some added impact

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I would like to hope we'll see something on it, however little. Okada did feel the need to let us know that Kudelia hasn't been home since that incident and basically lives in her office. So maybe there's a chance to see Norman getting handed the proverbial and well-deserved gtfo by his own daughter

Or I don't mind Orga doing it, should be satisfying to see Daddy the Scum shake in his boots from Orga's mobster looks and demeanor

Tenzen12 · 2017-01-21, 04:55

Of course there will be politicall changes. But Kudelia will not go full politician unless circumstances force her. And Gjalahorn having more power than it already has would be bad news. Power corrupt, absolute power corrupt absolutely.

So yeah if Macky go that way, he will cross to antagonist territory with no way back. Especially as it would mean turn his back to everything he fought until now.

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2017-01-21, 05:31

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Yeah I am sure Hush bringing Mika on his shoulder will be very memorable

...and quad-tapping Norman while hanging on Hush's shoulder like a boss

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Tenzen12 · 2017-01-21, 05:32

Holding gun in his teeth...

Sign me in

Skye629 · 2017-01-21, 16:28

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Holding gun in his teeth...

Sign me in

Well his left arm still works

Him hanging over Hush's left shoulder like a sack while pointing his gun would indeed be quite the sight (with Hush facing away so Mika can face the target)

That would easily be a classic Gundam moment

If Jasley goes I want it to go down that way. That would be soooooo good

Irenesharda · 2017-01-22, 00:25

You could also have Mika propped up in a chair waiting for him. He seems to do pretty well sitting as we see him sitting with McMurdo.

Rising Dragon · 2017-01-22, 00:33

The greatest hilarity would be when Orga goes to execute someone, he makes sure the guy's by the window... while outside, Gundam Barbatos rises up, Mikazuki pops out of the cockpit, and uses a gun to kill the target through the window.

Skye629 · 2017-01-22, 03:39

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The greatest hilarity would be when Orga goes to execute someone, he makes sure the guy's by the window... while outside, Gundam Barbatos rises up, Mikazuki pops out of the cockpit, and uses a gun to kill the target through the window.

Thats a bit much haha......

And I doubt anyone would appreciate the MS/Ahab interference cutting off all the electronics/lights/whatnot

Tenzen12 · 2017-01-22, 05:13

That's simple issue. You just need few tens of tons of half-metal and cover Barbie with it...

Skye629 · 2017-01-22, 08:00

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That's simple issue. You just need few tens of tons of half-metal and cover Barbie with it...

Then how is Mika gonna get out to shoot the dude? (reminder that the cockpit is located right in front of the reactor)

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2017-01-20, 12:24	Link #142
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	They will not get "supreme authority". Mars has its own government and neither Kudelia nor Tekkadan are part of it. Whole this "King of Mars" deal is practically Orga replacing late Corral and administrate Gjalahorn obligations while receiving it's influence. Regardless they are no charity, though it's not impossible they will build another orphanage out of good will or something. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll) Last edited by Tenzen12; 2017-01-20 at 12:36.

2017-01-21, 01:00	Link #145
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Yes, but as Gjalahorn proxy, they aren't just supposed intervene, but right down forbidden intervene into inner working of blocks nor mess with its economy. Corral ignored that because he was corrupted bastard. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2017-01-21, 02:10	Link #147
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Mackey want cleanse Gjalahorn of corruption and return to its roots, and I am pretty sure he is self aware enough know that legalisation of power abuse is not the way. As for Kudelia we don't even know whether is she interested in becoming part of government in futures. She is quite busy with Admoss company and all half metals she needs ship out after all. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2017-01-21, 02:20	Link #149
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Yeah I am sure Hush bringing Mika on his shoulder will be very memorable To be honest I don't think Kudelia parent really matter,she moved on and doing own things now. There is no really need hold grudge and waste her time on him. But we will see. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2017-01-20, 11:47	Link #141
tdx Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016	When Tekkadan gets the supreme governmental authority - or rather when Orga in particular gets that authority - it's obvious that he will have to rely heavily on Kudelia and their line of policy will have to be uniform, binding them together tighter than ever, and obviously it will be guided by Kudelia's fundamental principles that she's been pursuing since the beginning, that is, to do everything in her power to revive martian economy first and foremost. So let's just say that time will tell whether we're overestimating the importance of that "marriage" or not.

2017-01-20, 22:44	Link #143
FBF Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	I noticed when Azee and Echo were talking to some of the Tekkadan members at the beginning and said that they may never see them again....might mean they will both die....Crap! At least Lafter was away speaking with Akihiro when that happened, so I at least hope she lives....even though I want Azee to live.

2017-01-21, 02:03	Link #146
tdx Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016	The Martian governments are puppet. With her father being the head of Chryse and Makanai on her side, Kudelia is a shoe-in to take her father's place regardless of what might happen. But before that, the fact that Tekkadan gets to be at the helm means GH itself has been successfully reformed into 'a new organization with more freedom', to quote Macky, so I wouldn't be so sure that GH's guiding principles, including the non-interference policy, will stay the same by the time. In fact, McGillis' phrasing implies that they won't.

2017-01-21, 03:41	Link #150
Skye629 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	After the amount of time that passed so far, I highly doubt they will touch on that little family matter

2017-01-21, 04:55	Link #152
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Of course there will be politicall changes. But Kudelia will not go full politician unless circumstances force her. And Gjalahorn having more power than it already has would be bad news. Power corrupt, absolute power corrupt absolutely. So yeah if Macky go that way, he will cross to antagonist territory with no way back. Especially as it would mean turn his back to everything he fought until now. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2017-01-21, 05:32	Link #154
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Holding gun in his teeth... Sign me in __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2017-01-22, 00:25	Link #156
Irenesharda Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago	You could also have Mika propped up in a chair waiting for him. He seems to do pretty well sitting as we see him sitting with McMurdo. __________________ "Someone who cannot forgive lies or secrets, will never trust another." - Major Kyosuke Hyobu

2017-01-22, 00:33	Link #157
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 37	The greatest hilarity would be when Orga goes to execute someone, he makes sure the guy's by the window... while outside, Gundam Barbatos rises up, Mikazuki pops out of the cockpit, and uses a gun to kill the target through the window. __________________

2017-01-22, 05:13	Link #159
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	That's simple issue. You just need few tens of tons of half-metal and cover Barbie with it... __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)