2012-01-31, 09:10 | Link #141 |
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Oh damn this seems all alien to me.
Anyway , i'm pretty much convinced that Kurama's ass-kicking is mainly due to him being partners w/ the main character. I mean .. Kishimoto could come up with Tailed Beast Chakra dividing and other theories to explain it all , but .. Half the 9 Ninetail's Power = Equivalent of 5 other beasts , and the 8 Tails already had trouble with 2-3. Seems pretty warped to me , but hey. It's Naruto. So u know ...
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2012-01-31, 12:07 | Link #142 | |
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also, it was mentioned at the onset of this fight that the number of tails is not equivalent to the power distribution between bijou. therefore the ichibi could theoretically be more powerful than the rokubi or even the hachibi possibly. it does seem that kurama is the most powerful though. |
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2012-01-31, 14:59 | Link #143 | |
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Why would he achieve a powerup and at the same time be so weak that he dies. To have a powerup like that one should be healthy, and even more than that, he should be on top of his power. So it doesn't make sense unless he experimented on his own body to artificially create the rinnegan in himself, and either the experimenting process lasted so long that he became old or his experimnets made him ill and then die soon after he succeeded. |
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2012-01-31, 17:33 | Link #145 | |
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I can't imagine how would he obtain the rinnegan in a very weakened state which happens when somebody is about to die. Overusing the rinnegan is probably not the case, because the first thing he would do after obtaining the rinnegan and being 100% healthy is to go to Konoha to kill everyone. But he never attacked Konoha. Another possibility would be if he was crippled after he lost the fight against the 1st, but we see that a even a crippled rinnegan user like Nagato can beat hokage level people. So even then i would expect that he attacks Konoha with the 6 path corpses, but he didn't do that. |
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2012-01-31, 19:44 | Link #146 | |
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I agree about sasuke getting it in his fight with naruto btw edit: in retrospect it does make sense to need senju and uchiha dna to get rinnegan since the rikudo sennin was the originator of rinnegan and had both obviously (although by that logic all later generation senju and uchiha should have both dna, just more of one than the other). so perhaps it requires a lot of both dna strands? Last edited by itachi-san314; 2012-01-31 at 19:55. |
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2012-02-01, 00:30 | Link #147 |
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Madara never truly achieved rinnegan. If he did, there would have been no reason to create rinnegan on Nagato. Tobi could've just taken dead Madara's eyes until the plan was complete then give them back afterwards.
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2012-02-01, 01:17 | Link #148 |
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Chapter 572 thread has been opened. Please move all relevant discussions to the new thread.
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2012-02-01, 18:40 | Link #149 | ||
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For the moon eye's plan he also had to capture all the demons, and according to the story at the time the 1st hokage had those demons. So maybe that was also part of his plan when fighting the 1st. But he ended up losing even the kyuubi, and barely surviving, so even if his plan was to actually win that fight he had to completely change his plans. But i think that this moon's eye plan as told by Tobi is not really Madara's plan, because Madara likes war, he likes to fight, and the plan is about peace. That peace is forced peace, but it's peace, and Madara likes to fight, fighting is his lifestyle. See how even in death he is very agressive, how he comes out of that coffin, how excited he is about fighting 5 kages, etc. He enjoys fighting and killing, he would be sad in a peaceful world, even if he was the ruler of it. So i think, as it was hinted by Kabuto when he talks to Madara, Tobi and Madara are different personalities and they have different goals. Tobi might be Madara's brother, some Uchiha, or he might be an Uzumaki, some other descendant of the sage, but whoever he is he definitely is different than Madara. Madara would never play the idiot Tobi who is chased around by Deidara and telling jokes to people, hiding in the shadows, Madara has too much pride to do such things (as we have seen in his flashback where he talks to the Tsuchikage). Quote:
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