[Game] Umineko - Spoilers, Theories, Interpretations

[TsundereCake]

It's also been bothering me that there's all this discussion of events (Kyrie culprit, Yasu, etc.) but no SCREENCAPS to go with them

[Kitsu]

It's also been bothering me that there's all this discussion of events (Kyrie culprit, Yasu, etc.) but no SCREENCAPS to go with them

Exactly, while Kyrie has some backup screenscaps. This is just weird, there are people reading it for a second time in Japan alread...if this whole orphanage Yasu business really happened then why are there no screencaps?

[immblueversion]

Because I am lost among all the spoilers that have popped up, unable to sort out the real from the fake, I would appreciate it if someone were to surmise a list of every person on Rokkenjima that points out which people are behind the murders, exactly how they are involved, and whether or not it is of their own free will or if they're even aware of it.

And I don't want the list presented in the spoiler below, for that only fueled my confusion.

Originally Posted by Escargotage

Spoiler for EP7:

"Kinzo: Massacred his family by setting up a bomb
Krauss: Concealed his father's death
Natsuhi: Dropped Lion off a cliff
Eva: Carelessly killed her elder brother's wife in a scuffle
Hideyoshi: Carelessly killed his brother-in-law in a scuffle
Rudolf: Killed for pleasure (?)
Kyrie: Massacred
Rosa: Killed her sister-in-law
Jessica: Love on the brain
George: Love on the brain
Battler: Incompetent
Maria: Delusional
Ange: Delusional

This family is hopeless."

And original

金蔵：一族皆殺し爆弾を仕掛ける
蔵臼：父親の死を隠蔽
夏妃：りおんを崖から突き落とす
絵羽：取っ組み合いでうっかり兄嫁を殺す
秀吉：取っ組み合いでうっかり義兄を殺す
留弗夫：快楽殺人に目覚める
霧江：みなごろし
楼座：腹違いの姉を殺す
朱志香：恋愛脳
譲治：恋愛脳
戦人：無能
真里亞：電波
縁寿：電波

駄目だこの一族

[Renall]

Japan has gone to bed, I believe. Only a few people are probably still up and they're likely the ones reading.

[TsundereCake]

Originally Posted by Kitsu

Exactly, while Kyrie has some backup screenscaps. This is just weird, there are people reading it for a second time in Japan alread...if this whole orphanage Yasu business really happened then why are there no screencaps?

You're right, I found a couple screens, but not enough to completely convince me.

[blitz1/2]

Originally Posted by Escargotage

From 2ch, and found it a bit interesting, possibly the end credits roll or just a scene towards the end.

Spoiler for EP7:

"Kinzo: Massacred his family by setting up a bomb
Krauss: Concealed his father's death
Natsuhi: Dropped Lion off a cliff
Eva: Carelessly killed her elder brother's wife in a scuffle
Hideyoshi: Carelessly killed his brother-in-law in a scuffle
Rudolf: Killed for pleasure (?)
Kyrie: Massacred
Rosa: Killed her sister-in-law
Jessica: Love on the brain
George: Love on the brain
Battler: Incompetent
Maria: Delusional
Ange: Delusional


This family is hopeless."

And original

金蔵：一族皆殺し爆弾を仕掛ける
蔵臼：父親の死を隠蔽
夏妃：りおんを崖から突き落とす
絵羽：取っ組み合いでうっかり兄嫁を殺す
秀吉：取っ組み合いでうっかり義兄を殺す
留弗夫：快楽殺人に目覚める
霧江：みなごろし
楼座：腹違いの姉を殺す
朱志香：恋愛脳
譲治：恋愛脳
戦人：無能
真里亞：電波
縁寿：電波

駄目だこの一族

That (lol) pretty much sums up the family.

[Kurizu204]

Originally Posted by TsundereCake

It's also been bothering me that there's all this discussion of events (Kyrie culprit, Yasu, etc.) but no SCREENCAPS to go with them

http://loda.jp/umineko/

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Kurizu204

http://loda.jp/umineko/

None of that confirms what /jp/ has been ranting about all morning.

[Renall]

Also any or all of that could be fake. The source is basically "it came from 2ch." Until somebody actually has a copy, it's pretty hard to source screenshots.

Of course some probably are true. The Zepar/Furfur stuff was, to everyone's surprise.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Renall

Also any or all of that could be fake. The source is basically "it came from 2ch." Until somebody actually has a copy, it's pretty hard to source screenshots.

Of course some probably are true. The Zepar/Furfur stuff was, to everyone's surprise.

I'm pretty sure that Claire and the Fukuin servants are real.

Not so sure about the identity of the culprit, though.

[Renall]

The former of those is easier to verify than the latter. Once somebody actually has a copy they can just open the .nsa and any character who has art will be in there. The rest requires reading, unless somebody has a sprite of them making the biggest trollface in known history covered in blood and brandishing six guns or something.

[ijriims]

Has EP7 been out actually?

I doubt that flat-chest is Natsuhi and Krauss's first child, as I have seen a different character description

Spoiler for EP7?:

Also compare:

Spoiler for EP7?:

The upper one seems more valid. But still...

Well, the time of judgment is nigh.

How many points of mine would be destoryed?

- Kyrie (Sumadera family) as mastermind, planter of bomb.
- Shannon as puppet, still as Kyrie's friend.
- Kinzo has created perfect clone in the end, and it was the target of Sumadera family.
- Sayo and Yoshiya are separate people. But Sayo= Shannon = Kanon after Yoshiya was killed by Kyrie.

[musouka]

I would trust pretty much any screenshot of Wright and Leon, since they have different facial expressions in most of them that would be hard to fake. The rest are more iffy.

[Kitsu]

Originally Posted by ijriims

Has EP7 been out actually?

I doubt that flat-chest is Natsuhi and Krauss's first child, as I have seen a different character description

Spoiler for clean:

Well, the time of judgment is nigh.

How many points of mine would be destoryed?

- Kyrie (Sumadera family) as mastermind, planter of bomb.
- Shannon as puppet, still as Kyrie's friend.
- Kinzo has created perfect clone in the end, and it was the target of Sumadera family.
- Sayo and Yoshiya are separate people. But Sayo= Shannon = Kanon after Yoshiya was killed by Kyrie.

That description appeared befor the actual episode released so it is fake.

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by ijriims

Has EP7 been out actually?

I doubt that flat-chest is Natsuhi and Krauss's first child.

Of course he/she is not. He/she is the love child of Kinzo and the Beatrice who was locked up in the Kuwadorian, who also happens to be his daughter born of another love encounter in his crazy years with an Italian chick (also named Beatrice) on a frickin SUBMARINE.

My point is that flat-chest was the child given to Natsuhi and then was dropped off a cliff, but survived and went on to live at an orphanage where he/she was bullied (and probably raped) and, in his/her desperation for solace, ended up getting two split personalities whose names you can probably guess.

I think.

[musouka]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

Of course he/she is not. He/she is the love child of Kinzo and the Beatrice who was locked up in the Kuwadorian, who also happens to be his daughter born of another love encounter in his crazy years with an Italian chick (also named Beatrice) on a frickin SUBMARINE.

My point is that flat-chest was the child given to Natsuhi and then was dropped off a cliff, but survived and went on to live at an orphanage where he/she was bullied (and probably raped) and, in his/her desperation for solace, ended up getting two split personalities whose names you can probably guess.

I think.

This is why you shouldn't listen to things without context. A lot of that is flat out wrong or just speculation based on half-translated 2ch speculation.

[DaBackpack]

Well, the icon on some of the pictures is Furfur, while the icon for some of them is the feminine person. So some of them are fake, probably the ones with

Spoiler for Mindrape:

ROSA AND RUDOLF INCEST AAAAUUUGHHH

Also, has it ACTUALLY been confirmed that the

Spoiler for EP7:

picture with young Beatrice and young Kinzo

is a true screenshot?

[Kitsu]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Well, the icon on some of the pictures is Furfur, while the icon for some of them is the feminine person. So some of them are fake, probably the ones with

Spoiler for Mindrape:

ROSA AND RUDOLF INCEST AAAAUUUGHHH

Also, has it ACTUALLY been confirmed that the

Spoiler for EP7:

picture with young Beatrice and young Kinzo

is a true screenshot?

I would be quite angry if the latter were true. I mean Ryukishi just copied Battler's head on a different body and drew him new hair. Not to mention that the proportions look really off. Oh well....

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Also, has it ACTUALLY been confirmed that the

Spoiler for EP7:

picture with young Beatrice and young Kinzo

is a true screenshot?

No, but it may, in fact, be true. We don't know yet.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Kitsu

I would be quite angry if the latter were true. I mean Ryukishi just copied Battler's head on a different body and drew him new hair. Not to mention that the proportions look really off. Oh well....

Yeah, but there have been differing opinions on the matter. I almost crapped myself when someone said it was true. Who knows.