2011-09-01, 05:19 | Link #16221 |
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As Jinto said, tho, there's a limit to how many people you can have in leading positions due to bureaucracy. Also, it's less costly to put someone like John the Machinist into a more important position than to raise his basic pay to promote his loyalty within his current position. Sure, someone who's worked for 20 years in the same job should be promoted, but over a shorter term, it's better to raise their pay if there aren't vacancies for higher/leading roles in the company.
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2011-09-01, 06:10 | Link #16222 | |
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For instance, the basic unskilled factory worker could easily receive training to become a skilled welder or machinist, which are highly skilled roles that are also well payed. The highly skilled welder/machinist could be moved up to producing more important, less error tolerant parts, and finally could even be moved up to the design team. Either way, there's a lot of scope for progression even without movement into leadership roles. Engineers and technicians often hold high salaries without ever being any kind of leader at all, they just practice an uncommon and valued skill. |
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2011-09-01, 06:30 | Link #16223 | |
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Anyway, on the long run we have too much automation and too little resources to keep everyone decently employed (that was tried in socialist countries and it did not work out). So, an ever increasing amount of "just consumers not producers" people is to be expected. Actually we already have these people. They are conveniently confined to places that we call the 3rd world today. All those food aid programs do not sustainably help most people in these regions. It just makes them dependend on the steady supply from producers. A similar scheme will certainly become main stream in the industrialized world. Though has another name there (social welfare) and will become more dominant unless you have politicians who value their own citizens so lowly that they do not even want to provide them with a basic funding to sustain meaningful life (according to humanist principle... preserving at least some dignity).
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2011-09-01, 10:52 | Link #16224 |
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Condoleezza Rice fires back at Cheney memoir
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...77U6GN20110831 She's a bit late...
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2011-09-01, 11:06 | Link #16225 |
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Protectionism can go very bad, because other countries will just do the same to the US, and further more it will only drive up the prices of the good further deterring consumer spending.
Given that there's almost as much employment(and money) in the distribution and retail of goods as in their manufacture (thinking easily automated cheap chinese goods here...), that may not be such a great idea. End result would be more expensive goods in America, and reduced exports for the US when other countries put up tariffs "in kind". Rather putting up tariffs I think the US should aim to fix the original problem: America's trade deficit... |
2011-09-01, 12:03 | Link #16227 | |
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Believe me export oriented countries have to lose more than the USA when a moderate protectionism is carefully maintained. We (the western civ) do it on the level of agricultural products (subvention, trade policies etc. to seal off our markets on agricultural products as much as possible against the 3rd world). So, some protectionism is not out of the norm. The heavy derugaltion and free market madra in the US disregards the circumstances under which conditions goods are produced. I'ld say the western world should collect duties to punish low cost slave labour in other countries. This way we can ensure better living conditions here and in the producing countries. At the moment we become more like the BRICS instead of the BRICS becoming more like us... economy wise.
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2011-09-01, 14:05 | Link #16228 | |
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The question is, is that the direction China is heading in the region, and will it come down to a naval war of some sort? Because a ground war in the region is not sustainable (Vietnam War shows the effectiveness of modern warfare verses outcome, and China or the United States are just too largely populated (and distant) for the other to invade effectively...without nuclear weapons that is). Also the suggestion is that the warfare would remain at sea and in the political arena, rather than go to ground combat.
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2011-09-01, 14:56 | Link #16230 | |
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I would actually argue that our subsidization of agriculture is actually one of the most harmful things we do to the 3rd world, by doing so we have lowered the price of food so much that it prevents those in the 3rd who are reliant on agriculture from making any kind of money whatso ever. People often talk about how we should be helping those who live in poorer countries then us, I think such talk is hypocritical so long as we continue to support trade practices that harm the people we're supposed to be helping... For instance, Germany is still able to maintain a huge trade surplus despite being in a free trade zone with much poorer countries, partially due to the Euro, but also due to the fact that they have adequately maintained their industrial base by ensuring it is better then any of it's rivals, with good infrastructure, an educated workforce and high innovation. America should play to the strengths it has, rather then trying to compete with poorer countries on labour cost. Invariably, by importing basic goods from poorer countries they are creating markets in those same poorer countries for more sophisticated goods they could be supplying. While all these 3rd world countries have low wage rates now, if things continue and those countries continue to be prosperous, they will eventually catch up to the US. Furthermore, America ignores the international market at it's peril, there's a potential market of 6 billion people in the world for American goods. In the USA? 300 million. That's not to say there shouldn't be no tariffs at all. Putting one on China may be a good idea, as China has been playing a bit dirty, what with keeping their currency down, and stealing trade secrets with abandon... |
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2011-09-01, 22:37 | Link #16233 |
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Perry sought to sideline nuclear waste site critic
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...78053Z20110901 Is it me or this guy just push over thoses than contradict him ? Obama moves to sell Global hawk drones to South Korea http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...78005T20110901
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2011-09-02, 03:15 | Link #16235 |
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Too cute, tiny robot busts out dance moves
So, when will Japan make the full fledged version complete with the after show private service.
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2011-09-02, 06:31 | Link #16236 |
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Greece, EU/IMF at odds over deficit; pause talks
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7811I420110902
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2011-09-02, 08:00 | Link #16237 |
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Heck, I think he could be even worse than Bush Jr. At least Bush Jr. tried to act nice to his opponents (he left the ball-breaking to Cheney). Perry is almost like Bush Jr. and Cheney rolled into one.
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2011-09-02, 10:51 | Link #16238 |
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2011-09-02, 12:14 | Link #16240 |
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Time for a Space Debris Section to be made:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14757926
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