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Old 2007-11-18, 07:10   Link #16241
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It certainly looked like one, and it stopped Frieds Blast Rain. AMF doesn't stop elemental attacks formed outside the AMF.
Hmmmm.... still, that's only on the big Ball-type. The cannon fodder drones appear quite vulnerable to physical attacks... but I guess the Ball-types must be the "aces" of the Gadget Drones. K, then.

Though I note that if the Gadgets could not recognise rocks as a threat, then I believe they would not recognise HMG rounds as a threat...

And TK's right. Manga Drones were a lot more impressive.

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But the one who learned them wouldn't be as good with them as someone with an affinity, which is also something to remember.
So... hypothetically speaking, Franz could undergo training from hell, and learn spells for all different elements, but he wouldn't be as good with them...

Meh, he's gonna get selfpwnt alot anyway, so this isn't too big a deal for him. Naomi, on the other hand.... thinking of making her a dual Ice/Lightning affinty...

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Sounds good to my ears... although I'd say that O'neill would be retiring long before that time's over... unless of course TK's version isn't the same age as the SG one...
Well, it depends on how old TKs O'Neill is... mind you, Graham retired when he was in his 70s. Assuming TK's O'Neill is in his 40s, thats 3 decades to work with...

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*imagines PhoenixFlare chanting*

I am the key of my board.
Text is my body, and Word is my blood.
I have created over a thousand paragraphs.
Unknown to backlog.
Nor known to crack.
Have withstood pain to create many stories.
Yet, those hands will never publish anything.
So as I type,
"Unlimited Type Works"


Ahahahahahaha! Nice! *thumbs up*

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NAVSPECWAR = Naval Special Warware Command
DDG = Destroyers, usually of the guided missile variety IIRC.
FFG = Frigates, as above, I think of the guided missile kind.

I think the worst part is that I knew those off the top of my head.
Yes, you got it all right.

Technically, it's only Naval Special Warfare Command if the initials read NAVSPECWARCOM, but most people - including the SEALs who form NAVSPECWAR - drop the COM, cuz it's superflous.

Yes, DDG and FFG for Guided Missile Destroyer and Guided Missile Frigate. Historically, FF stood for "Fast Frigate" but nobody ever calls them that, and nobody remembers what the DD stands for...

Well.... we play lotsa RTSes... and read about this stuff.... and you can't read Halo or play Halo without seeing these initials.....
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Old 2007-11-18, 07:14   Link #16242
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After seeing the , i decided to do a snap update on one of my main OCs here.

Spoiler for Ashton Marten McDouglas: 50% complete:


===

just a snap question:

do you call a villain that has:

- Millennia of planning
- Access to/ use of technologies unheard/deemed implausible/impossible of in the Bureau
- 'Countless' numbers and types of minions.
- Ultra-Loyal subjects- yes with no hint of swaying loyalty ever.
- Said subjects powerful on their own (matter/'time' manipulation, etc).
- Has incalculable powers, weapons and techniques- so powerful that even the CCs and most of the OCs have a hard time dealing with just his subjects.
- A burning desire to Transcend Space and Time (whatever that means).
- A burning desire for total destruction just to retrieve items that are the keys to the above desire.

Haxx?
===

And Speaking of Mai Enna...

could this be...

Spoiler for A Relative?:


*runs from chainsaw*
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Old 2007-11-18, 07:38   Link #16243
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*thumbs up* Although I'd want to change the "nor known to crack line" since there's a possibilty of some epic crack in the future
What would you replace it with then?

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I am adamant that water isn't weak!

Well, that depends. I'll try to think of a way to make it possible to use water. Something must be doable here ...
Like shooting Hayate with water and watching as her clothes stick to her... contours, knocking her out through excessive embarrasment

*runs*


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Err...no...
The name is the same but they look completely different


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After seeing the , i decided to do a snap update on one of my main OCs here.

Spoiler for Ashton Marten McDouglas: 50% complete:
Now THAT's a nice long update And I see you're claiming the Subaru "Freedom" design

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===

just a snap question:

do you call a villain that has:

- Millennia of planning
- Access to/ use of technologies unheard/deemed implausible/impossible of in the Bureau
- 'Countless' numbers and types of minions.
- Ultra-Loyal subjects- yes with no hint of swaying loyalty ever.
- Said subjects powerful on their own (matter/'time' manipulation, etc).
- Has incalculable powers, weapons and techniques- so powerful that even the CCs and most of the OCs have a hard time dealing with just his subjects.
- A burning desire to Transcend Space and Time (whatever that means).
- A burning desire for total destruction just to retrieve items that are the keys to the above desire.

Haxx?
===
What else can you call it?

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And Speaking of Mai Enna...

could this be...

Spoiler for A Relative?:


*runs from chainsaw*


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Old 2007-11-18, 07:42   Link #16244
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She got shafted by her creator giving her such worthless powers.
Th-that's a little harsh...

<looks at a sobbing Sharazad>



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Crap Aaron beat me too some of it.
I finally found some time to go into detail with some matters here.

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No, Sharazad couldn't defend against area-type magic. >.> In fact, none of the Templars can. But, I don't see why Hayate would want to Hraesvelgr just one person. Against a battalion of Heralds, maybe.
GASP!
You're going to have a problem...

Namely...

<drum rolls>

Magic damage...

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Unison will be in, of course.


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But, yeah, it's unlikely that she's going to freeze water coming atop her (that's just like dropping an avalanche on your head ). The waves come from the front.
I meant beforehand... or something along those lines...

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Possibly the first, but as mentioned, summoning that much water would be excessively straining for Sharazad and Hayate to defend.


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I am adamant that water isn't weak!
It just comes with the circumstances...

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Hayate Exploit #1: She's soft once she understands what the Templars are doing.

And while Sharazad's power revolves around water mostly, she is able to use other forms of attack, like wind and earth. But, her preference still remains with the ocean.

*runs from imminent Ragnarok Breaker by Hayate-fans*
Me: You're being a softie again, Hayate?!
Hayate: Uuu~...

Anyway, it does somewhat compute she can be considered the 'Princess' of the Yaten no Sho as well.

That aside, Magic Damage...

It's the Nanoha-plot device syndrome that'll be your problem here...

And of course, *Hayate fans shoots PF with Ragnarok Breaker*


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After seeing the , i decided to do a snap update on one of my main OCs here.

Spoiler for Ashton Marten McDouglas: 50% complete:
Been a while since we've seen of Ashton. Nice update.
That concept pic is awesome!

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===

just a snap question:

do you call a villain that has:

- Millennia of planning
- Access to/ use of technologies unheard/deemed implausible/impossible of in the Bureau
- 'Countless' numbers and types of minions.
- Ultra-Loyal subjects- yes with no hint of swaying loyalty ever.
- Said subjects powerful on their own (matter/'time' manipulation, etc).
- Has incalculable powers, weapons and techniques- so powerful that even the CCs and most of the OCs have a hard time dealing with just his subjects.
- A burning desire to Transcend Space and Time (whatever that means).
- A burning desire for total destruction just to retrieve items that are the keys to the above desire.

Haxx?
Yes.
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Old 2007-11-18, 07:52   Link #16245
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Hmmmm.... still, that's only on the big Ball-type. The cannon fodder drones appear quite vulnerable to physical attacks... but I guess the Ball-types must be the "aces" of the Gadget Drones. K, then.
Well, yes. It was also said in the anime that the spheres were a lot tougher.

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Though I note that if the Gadgets could not recognise rocks as a threat, then I believe they would not recognise HMG rounds as a threat...
It wasn't that they didn't recognise the rocks as a thread, it was that they didn't have a chance in hell of dodging them:

Spoiler:


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So... hypothetically speaking, Franz could undergo training from hell, and learn spells for all different elements, but he wouldn't be as good with them...
That, and he'll need long cast timers, the ritual sort.

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Meh, he's gonna get selfpwnt alot anyway, so this isn't too big a deal for him. Naomi, on the other hand.... thinking of making her a dual Ice/Lightning affinty...
*twitch* Didn't we just establish that a person can have only one affinity?

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===

just a snap question:

do you call a villain that has:

- Millennia of planning
- Access to/ use of technologies unheard/deemed implausible/impossible of in the Bureau
- 'Countless' numbers and types of minions.
- Ultra-Loyal subjects- yes with no hint of swaying loyalty ever.
- Said subjects powerful on their own (matter/'time' manipulation, etc).
- Has incalculable powers, weapons and techniques- so powerful that even the CCs and most of the OCs have a hard time dealing with just his subjects.
- A burning desire to Transcend Space and Time (whatever that means).
- A burning desire for total destruction just to retrieve items that are the keys to the above desire.

Haxx?
===
Ah, yes?

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And Speaking of Mai Enna...

could this be...

Spoiler for A Relative?:


*runs from chainsaw*
*snirk* Happy go lucky Zero? A relative of Mai? Surely you jest....
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Old 2007-11-18, 08:07   Link #16246
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Yup, Kay is a Sonic Magic user, basically her magic specialty is sound

And I even have an entire Magic System based around sound and music (The Lyrical Magic System).
Glad to see I ain't senile yet
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Out of curiosity, what does Yui's physical frame consist of?

Since I had created physical bodies for my AI OC's as well, which are technomagic-based physical holograms.
Basically holograms with interlacing barrier field effects to create the solid 30 cm form. Although the normal human sized preferred form of Yui's isn't working as intended. It only looks fully solid which is something she is NOT very happy about.

We wanted to study one of the Wolkenritter, but let's just say the results are as expected.
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I think we expected her to look somewhat younger
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Yeah...my thoughts exactly

That...and longer hair
*runs*
She tends to think herself as older and more mature. She thinks that no one will treat her seriously if you looks younger. Also, after being with Tais for so long, she feels that she has aged significantly. Hence the older look.
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Don't make it sound like a competition.
For the record, Aurion makes devices meant for combat but nothing along the lines of something like the EVA frames or an A.I. as self-aware as Yui.
If you'd ask me, the stuff Tsuzuki is tinkering around with are still more advanced than anything Aurion made or is making right now. The only thing that comes close is Almaria.
Pride as a professional scientist, sorry
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I'd recommend Phanan... but he's pretty screwed up himself.
The cyborg doctor allergic to bacta? From wraith squadron? :Shudder:

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It avoids situations such as this, though.



You are simply a munchkin.



'my character can blow up planets!'

'why?'

'cause he is the son of god!'

Lame excuse for h4xx abillities. If you make the spells ritual spells, then I can start to believe it.



He can fire all those spells, non-stop for ten whole minutes?

And this doesn't strike you as even a bit unbalanced?



Hmm, with uberbind getting nerfed to become breakable and no longer sealing magic, balance starts to show. Still, I say that the other elemental spells will have to be either ritual spells or discarded. Having a 'special device' (read, H4xx excuse) just doesn't cut it.
You tell him boss! Cut him down to size!!!
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Old 2007-11-18, 08:14   Link #16247
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Glad to see I ain't senile yet
I don't think you'll be becoming senile anytime soon... at least, I think so

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Basically holograms with interlacing barrier field effects to create the solid 30 cm form. Although the normal human sized preferred form of Yui's isn't working as intended. It only looks fully solid which is something she is NOT very happy about.

We wanted to study one of the Wolkenritter, but let's just say the results are as expected.


That's basically my concept and portrayal of my AI's new physical bodies as well And unlike Yui's current form, they're full-sized

And studying the Wolkenritter huh? If they can create Rein, surely they already have sufficient date from the Wolkies

I think Morgan Freeman Dr. Turing is gonna have to make a visit to Tsuzuki then...

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She tends to think herself as older and more mature. She thinks that no one will treat her seriously if you looks younger. Also, after being with Tais for so long, she feels that she has aged significantly. Hence the older look.
That's true And Tais is REALLY something to make Yui feel older about herself

Although, the mature look makes her more appealing

*runs*
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Old 2007-11-18, 08:16   Link #16248
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The cyborg doctor allergic to bacta? From wraith squadron? :Shudder:
And current medic of Nanohaverse's Rogue Squadron. This time his problem seems to be he's immume to healing magic.
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Old 2007-11-18, 08:17   Link #16249
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And current medic of Nanohaverse's Rogue Squadron. This time his problem seems to be he's immume to healing magic.


So if he himself gets hurt, he's gonna have to wait it out the old-fashioned way
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Old 2007-11-18, 08:23   Link #16250
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Yup, and he has a wide variety of prothetics to boot. His entire left arm, for example. As for his face.... well a picture says more then a thousand words:



Although it seems that Belka healing magic does have some effect, hence why he spends time with Shamal every once in a while.
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Old 2007-11-18, 08:24   Link #16251
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Th-that's a little harsh...

<looks at a sobbing Sharazad>

Well, subtlety isn't TK's type, after all.

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GASP!
You're going to have a problem...

Namely...

<drum rolls>

Magic damage...
Heh, don't worry, there won't be so much as "magic damage" when Hayate attacks. What she can do is just refrain from using those nukes on Sharazad. That said, bombardments can still be handled somewhat, though only by the Trystahn.

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It just comes with the circumstances...


Circumstances that are difficult to deal with.

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Me: You're being a softie again, Hayate?!
Hayate: Uuu~...

Anyway, it does somewhat compute she can be considered the 'Princess' of the Yaten no Sho as well.

That aside, Magic Damage...

It's the Nanoha-plot device syndrome that'll be your problem here...

And of course, *Hayate fans shoots PF with Ragnarok Breaker*
W-What is this?

*entire horizon was filled with silver beams of pure energy*

And yes, for that particular reason you mention above.

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That said, Aaron, I'm going to send you Chapter Five on Aurion.

Progress Report
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ETA: I actually want to release it tonight if possible. Bleh, see how things go first, then.
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Old 2007-11-18, 08:26   Link #16252
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NAVSPECWAR = Naval Special Warware Command
DDG = Destroyers, usually of the guided missile variety IIRC.
FFG = Frigates, as above, I think of the guided missile kind.

I think the worst part is that I knew those off the top of my head.
Ahh I see
hey it's not that bad I've got lots of random info stored away in my brain as well
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Well, it depends on how old TKs O'Neill is... mind you, Graham retired when he was in his 70s. Assuming TK's O'Neill is in his 40s, thats 3 decades to work with...

Well.... we play lotsa RTSes... and read about this stuff.... and you can't read Halo or play Halo without seeing these initials.....
Wait.... Graham retired when he was in his 70's? When was that mentioned..


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What would you replace it with then?
Errmm, let me get back to you on that

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We wanted to study one of the Wolkenritter, but let's just say the results are as expected.

You tell him boss! Cut him down to size!!!
I think that after the Tais stuff, that Hayate would have banned the knights from going anywhere near the science dept



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Strikers v Aces, Part 7 of A visit to RF6
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Old 2007-11-18, 08:28   Link #16253
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I am adamant that water isn't weak!

Well, that depends. I'll try to think of a way to make it possible to use water. Something must be doable here ...
If its only pure water element, then you're out of luck. The only think I can think of is surrounding a person's head in water to drown them, using pure water to defend against lightning attacks and one rather evil attack.

If its liquid manipulation control, then I can think of a few other tricks.
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That's basically my concept and portrayal of my AI's new physical bodies as well And unlike Yui's current form, they're full-sized

And studying the Wolkenritter huh? If they can create Rein, surely they already have sufficient date from the Wolkies

I think Morgan Freeman Dr. Turing is gonna have to make a visit to Tsuzuki then...

That's true And Tais is REALLY something to make Yui feel older about herself

Although, the mature look makes her more appealing

*runs*
Hayate created Rein and I don't think she shared how. If she did, I'm surprised there isn't many little unison devices running about. Also if the secret of creating Unison devices is known, why are other scientists studying Agito instead of stealing the plans from the TSAB? It would be much easier to steal it then to research from scratch.

BTW, are your A.Is independent from the devices they were born in? I'm trying to give Yui independence like Rein + Wolkenritter. Oh, her form is full sized just not fully solid.
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Yup, and he has a wide variety of prothetics to boot. His entire left arm, for example. As for his face.... well a picture says more then a thousand words:



Although it seems that Belka healing magic does have some effect, hence why he spends time with Shamal every once in a while.
Ouch

Although is the healing magic effective because it's Belkan, or because it's Shamal?

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Wait.... Graham retired when he was in his 70's? When was that mentioned..
Wasn't he only 50+ when he retired?

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Errmm, let me get back to you on that


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Hayate created Rein and I don't think she shared how. If she did, I'm surprised there isn't many little unison devices running about. Also if the secret of creating Unison devices is known, why are other scientists studying Agito instead of stealing the plans from the TSAB? It would be much easier to steal it then to research from scratch.

BTW, are your A.Is independent from the devices they were born in? I'm trying to give Yui independence like Rein + Wolkenritter. Oh, her form is full sized just not fully solid.
Good point Although I would still imagine that the TSAB assisted in her creation, thus they'd have at least a rough idea of how she's created.

And my AI's are device independent. They're designed to be able to operate in almost any storage device or empty Intelligent and Armed they can be transferred to. Only with my recent Zubaida Arc and Matsuri Miyama stories though are they physically independent from any devices
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Old 2007-11-18, 08:43   Link #16255
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You are simply a munchkin.
And you're bossy like my sister, you're not going get me to accept Vivio like that =P

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'my character can blow up planets!'

'why?'

'cause he is the son of god!'

Lame excuse for h4xx abillities. If you make the spells ritual spells, then I can start to believe it.
Your point is there but you're over exaggerating.

Devices have been known to assist mages in their spell casting.



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He can fire all those spells, non-stop for ten whole minutes?

And this doesn't strike you as even a bit unbalanced?
I DON'T FREAKING KNOW ANYMORE!

Just give me what you think, I don't even care or think about how long he can fire all those because that's not how I intend for him to fight. So even if you said 10 seconds, go ahead. 10 seconds it is.

2 seconds? Sure.

...I need my drugs. -_-


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Hmm, with uberbind getting nerfed to become breakable and no longer sealing magic, balance starts to show. Still, I say that the other elemental spells will have to be either ritual spells or discarded. Having a 'special device' (read, H4xx excuse) just doesn't cut it.

It's h4xx because it converts magic into elemental?

Anything that converts magic into elemental is h4xx?

As for the ritual,

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Rip. Steel. Soul.: A special field magic. The area affect depends on how much magic the user puts in. This spell increase the effectiveness of all lightning spells, including the enemy's by making the surrounding air more favorable for electricity, skilled lightning users could also control the additional special effect of magnetism.

On first cast, the spell would last about 5 to 10 minutes, deteriorating slowly as time passes. Additional casting increases its effectiveness, as well as prolonging it’s duration.

In addition, when this spell reaches a certain level, the user could then cast the super-powered version of their usual lightning attacks, consuming this field spell in the process.
In simple terms.

Cast Charge. Cast Charge. Cast Charge.

Big Bang.

So If anything, he has to cast multiple rituals.
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Old 2007-11-18, 09:07   Link #16256
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Phew, all done
Thanks to TK for his intial read over of it, and to Keroko for letting me borrow tesla and Keroko-chan

Here's Part 7 of my ficlet, A visit to RF6, weighing in at 5.2k words. If you missed any of the previous parts, links can be found at my master index.

Spoiler for A visit to RF6 Part 7: Strikers v Aces:


Just one more part to go now. It shouldn't take too long as well since there won't be any actions scenes to painstakingly construct.

Thoughts please, if you have any, even if just to say that is sucked and you have to learn to write
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Old 2007-11-18, 09:12   Link #16257
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Ouch

Although is the healing magic effective because it's Belkan, or because it's Shamal?
Belkan. Phanan is suffering from a reverse snake poison effect. Much like how snakes are immume to venom of their own kind, Phanan has very potent healing magic, but he is immume to Mid-style healing, and many closely related types. Belkan is among one of the types apparently not affected by Phanan's immunity.

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And you're bossy like my sister, you're not going get me to accept Vivio like that =P
Even though Vivio is apparently driving a wedge between NXF in the upcomming sound stage?

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Your point is there but you're over exaggerating.
The principle is the same, though.

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Devices have been known to assist mages in their spell casting.
Assist, yes. But not to the point where they allow the user to use multiple ellements with little apparent effort. Up untill now all elemental spells have been either cast by someone with an affinity, cast by someone with both training and a device specialized in one element, or were ritual spells (In other words, chanted).

The only known exception to that rule would be Rein, which is a Unision Device and a rarety on her own.

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I DON'T FREAKING KNOW ANYMORE!

Just give me what you think, I don't even care or think about how long he can fire all those because that's not how I intend for him to fight. So even if you said 10 seconds, go ahead. 10 seconds it is.

2 seconds? Sure.
If channeling only one of the spells in that list, a minute or 5 would be the edge. And it depends on the spell in question, too.

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...I need my drugs. -_-
You've just been on the sidelines of these H4XXbustings for too long and never really paid attention to them.

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It's h4xx because it converts magic into elemental?

Anything that converts magic into elemental is h4xx?
It's h4xx because it can convert mana into any ellement. Even Durandal was build to assist the mage into converting and it was speciallized to ice.

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As for the ritual,

In simple terms.

Cast Charge. Cast Charge. Cast Charge.

Big Bang.

So If anything, he has to cast multiple rituals.
Ritual spells are spells with a chant to go along with them, not just charge time.

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Phew, all done
Thanks to TK for his intial read over of it, and to Keroko for letting me borrow tesla and Keroko-chan

Here's Part 7 of my ficlet, A visit to RF6, weighing in at 5.2k words. If you missed any of the previous parts, links can be found at my master index.

Spoiler for A visit to RF6 Part 7: Strikers v Aces:


Just one more part to go now. It shouldn't take too long as well since there won't be any actions scenes to painstakingly construct.

Thoughts please, if you have any, even if just to say that is sucked and you have to learn to write
Writing it from Myr's point of view gave a unique view of the battle, though that did make it a shame that we didn't see some of the RF6 members getting beaten because of it.
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True, which is why my OCs are still relatively unknowns.
I'm a tad guilty of this myself, but I have written some stuff about them to show them off a bit.

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I went "wtf?? " Thanks but no thanks, I don't want to go GAR or crazy suddenly.
Well guess you'll have to find some energy the old fashion way then.

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Nawww I like this explosive and messy.
Have you ever seen what a shotgun dose to a head?

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Well, it isn't that nobody else is selling. But the problem is this countries Telco lines are monopolized and controlled by a SINGLE organization. There isn't any competition at all. Wanna setup an ISP? Go through them, and because they don't own the lines and all they ISP ends up being more expensive overall and its no better either.
Ahh state control even better!

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Do those even exist? Oh wait...they do exist in "Zombie Loan".
They're becoming more and more common as someone finally figured out that an enemy that takes 10 minutes to shamble across the room to you isn't very scary.


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Again, in World War 2, the M2 Browning .50cal could take out light armored vehicles. These vehicles were built with thicker armor than your typical drone (the Ball-type seems to have a bit more armor, but the Guntank-type doesn't seem too well-protected...). Now, if an Earth round that is 75 years old by the time of StrikerS can do that, then what more the modern rounds currently in use...Like the Raufoss Mk 211 Mod 0. High Explosive Incedniary/Armor Piercing.
Or you could just use this... Real life heavy Bolters for the win!

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One thing that has always bugged me is that the TSAB appears to be very heavily spilt, very much like the JSSDF. They don't do joint ops, and the idea of coordinating units from the different branches on an op doesn't seem to have occurred to them... one ficlet idea that I had was the OFM going through this excercise to prove the validity of the Marine Air Ground Task Force concept to O'Neill and the TSAB Brass, in hopes of getting Ground Forces, Navy and AF to work closer together.
Such bickering is hardly uncommon though I know that the AIr Force has been talkign up retiuring A-10s and the army has basiclly said "we'll buy them ALL of them, straight up an d pay for them ourselves." and the Air Force threw a huge hissy fit about how the army wasn't allowed to have fixed wing aircraft they been whining about UAV's too and trying to get full control of them... probably so they can fuck them up because the Air Force is run by fighter jocks.

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For all of the nightmares it gives me trying to figure out continuity, FMP is one helluva kickass ride... incidentally, I remember reading somewhere that Gatoh said that mecha are totally impractical and unfeasible as real-world weapons, but Black Technology allows Mithril to cheat and use them without regard for the laws of reality. And this is one of my favorite scenes throughout the series. ^_^
Pretty much he admitted they make no sense, so he invented science fictional technology to make them effective.

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For some reason, I was always under the impression that the Enforcers were like Malaysian cops in the days of the Emergency; their primary focus is on investigation, but then they can deploy to bust heads when needed. Or, on the other hand, they could be the TSAB equivalent to SWAT, given their deployment into Precia's base in MSLN...
It's really the same thing anyway as most SWAT officers function as normal police when not needed in the SWAT role.

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Anyway, Liingo, I'll get to you on OFM/Enforcer interactions.... and perhaps TK as well?
I'm game just tell me what you need or want.

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In other news: On my laptop, Call of Duty 4 is Lag of Duty 4. -_- But I still play anyway. For the Gunship mission. Oh GOD THE GUNSHIP MISSION ;_; At least it runs smoothly on that mission.

"Bring the rain!"

*ponders an AC-130U gunship engaging ground Gadget Drones*
*Is aware that it would be cannon fodder to Air drones*
"Clear to engage all of those."

When I played this the first time I had one of those "Immersion" moments where I kind of forgot it was a game and the everything around me for a second, game graphics are getting awfully close to photorealism in certain instances...

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Thanks!
I'll look forward to your piece as well.
You shouldn't be it's sure to be ham fisted.


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Sigh... -_-;

You all make it sound like he does that on a regular basis.
For the record, Hayate is the ONLY person to have been subjected to such a method.
For the others,
It's your own damn fault for writing it.

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I don't see why the hell not, just because she's able to throw around lightning doesn't mean she's immume to it.
Seriously A flamethrower shots flames, dose that make it immune to a blow torch?



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I'd recommend Phanan... but he's pretty screwed up himself.
Such people aren't normally great choices as therapists.

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Only the Imperial Familly has pointy ears. And after reading two volumes I've yet to see an Abh actually look down on normals.
Frankly just looking their society should be a hint mostly the fact that anyone that's not Abh is automatically a second class citizen at best.



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*blink* O-kay, when did that happen? I haven't read that part yet...
Just look at the system the only way to move up into a position of any power is service to the state and citizenship as an Abh, but said citizen requires that your kids get Abh’fied. So basiclly in order to move out of the peasant serf class you have to abandoned your culture and arguably species and pledge loyalty to the Abh proper, basiclly it’s a eugenics/caste system for the sole purpose of assuring that Abh and ONLY Abh maintain any positions of power. That’s a caste system a pretty brutal and racist one at that. It also means that over time as more and more of the population dose this in order to gain in position humankind proper will probably begin to wane replaced by the Abh sub-species…


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Rule, yes. But as said, Abh don't interfere with planetary rule after that leader is chosen. Chosen by the people of the planet I might add.
Eh? Did we watch the same series? I’m pretty sure that the one planet we seem conquered just has some dude appointed, oh and then its heredity, fuck rule by merit! The people didn’t’ seem all that happy with this either given they you know EXILED the guy… from his own planet on pain of death. Also the entire thing is a joke they totally interfere with the place since they enforce all sorts of polices on them and the planets aren’t in any way free to disobey. They might not micro manage, but they’re sure as hell in control and interfering with the planets development according to there polices.

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In my opinion Crest of the Stars follows the 40k principle of having no good guys. In this case the aliance of humans would be a lot like the Imperium of Men in terms of behaviour, while the Abh would be like the Tau (closest thing 40k has to 'good guys' anyway).
I’m not so sure… the author certainly seems to like them and doesn’t seem to be going out of his way to show them as morally ambiguous, but if you acutally look at how this society is built, well the facts speak for themselves IMO, and I've seen authors push from pretty damn reprehensible political ideals before...




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Yeah, well, its nothing more then a thought bubbling in the back of my mind now. I can't seem to find a propper way to introduce her other then going 'I want a Unision Device' and give some lame-ass explanation.
Hey everyone else has been doing it. UD for everyone! I have to admit it took ALLOT of effort not to make Cortana just an AI and not a UD on my part... I still kinda wanna do it though acutally.


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Did they ever propperly explain that anyway?
Apparently if you don’t believe in it can’t affect you! Oh they tried to make it seem more dramatic but that’s what it boiled down too apparently they so fervently didn’t believe they projected some kind of “anti force field” or such shit, later on the writers realized this was sort of a pain in the ass in regards to having Jedi do cool shit so Jedi powers started to become more and more effective again.

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Good point, I had forgotten about those rocks. And tyes, those drones were nerfed pretty badly. In the first episodes, they were at least somewhat impressive.
villain decay as I said it happens with any type of evil minion, it's just a fact of life.

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You are simply a munchkin.
More or less.

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Hmmmm.... still, that's only on the big Ball-type. The cannon fodder drones appear quite vulnerable to physical attacks... but I guess the Ball-types must be the "aces" of the Gadget Drones. K, then.

Though I note that if the Gadgets could not recognise rocks as a threat, then I believe they would not recognise HMG rounds as a threat...

And TK's right. Manga Drones were a lot more impressive.
Stuff is always more powerful in print for whatever reason both Novels and manga tend to lean toward higher power levels.

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You've got a good point here.... in the backstory, Kagerou had Lindy supporting the setting up of the OFM because of what she'd experienced in the War of Subjugation, when the Sotoans pretty much nuked their entire planet. But the assasinations...

*whips out M4R1 Retcon Carbine*

Okay, how about this senario? The OFM is established under the Navy, and is slotted and hidden away among the Enforcers, though they're really a more spec ops/wetwork unit. Lindy and Aurion back the OFM's formation, though Lindy is under the impression that the OFM will be a more covert form of Enforcer than normal Enforcers; "Special Forces" meaning different things to her and Erick.

O'Neill then finds out about this unit, and then has a brainstorm: instead of forming a new wetworks unit, since Erick is already a "Do what has to be done" guy, O'Neill posits an idea: the OFM will be a joint Air Force/Navy unit, and is in a way a testbed for the idea of TSAB AFSOC and NAVSPECWAR units. To that end, a few of the early Air mages are from the TSAB AF, handpicked by O'Neill, and the TSAB liason officer is also AF (Emili Nailo), while the Navy provides the ship (we're thinking something small, light, and long-ranged, maybe TSAB Navy's version of a DDG? Or an FFG?) and a fair number of the support personnel (investigation, intel, other support staff). So over the next 20-odd years, Lindy slowly gets further and further removed from the OFM's operational details, Leti continues to help keep them hidden, and O'Neill is the guy who's the ultimate command authority...

And perhaps in 30-odd years after StrikerS, there will be a TSAB SOCOM, built on the foundations of the OFM and AFSOC <.<
I was just using him as an example. At this rate O’Neil is going to be like an evil mastermind or something anything sketchy in the entire TSAB militray is going to be under his control. You're free to use him of course though more exposer is always better and the militant faction seems to be growing in numbers as well.

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Sounds good to my ears... although I'd say that O'neill would be retiring long before that time's over... unless of course TK's version isn't the same age as the SG one...
Well He’s assumed to have made General a few years before StrikerS and his Bio was based on his status at the end of the Stargate series in which he was a rather highly placed general of the age of about 50 which would be his age at the beginning of StikerS. OFM forms before it begins IIRC so that works fine he’d already have been in a position to learn of and Hijack them.

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Well, it depends on how old TKs O'Neill is... mind you, Graham retired when he was in his 70s. Assuming TK's O'Neill is in his 40s, thats 3 decades to work with...
As for post StrikerS the military is basiclly his life though so he’s not going to retire until he’s not longer physically capable. On that note Nano joke or not it raises a good point Lindy ought to be into her 40s by now, but frankly she doesn’t look it at all and the idea that a TSAB humans average lifespan might be somewhat extended can’t be totally discounted IMO. In any case he probably has at least another 10 years in him post StrikerS, but as an officer not so much a field mage anymore he probably wouldn’t go out on missions anymore by about 5 years post StikerS I might make Guardians his last hooray as combat mage. (He shouldn’t really have been doing them at all once he got into the general ranks, but he’s still a soldier at the bottom of it all so he took any excuse he could find to take the field, or just made them up when he couldn’t find a good one.)

He’d be into his 80s by 30 years post StrikerS so that would be pushing it, but the idea that some of the stuff he set rolling before he retired might ultimately culminate in such an event isn’t impossible.
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Good point Although I would still imagine that the TSAB assisted in her creation, thus they'd have at least a rough idea of how she's created.

And my AI's are device independent. They're designed to be able to operate in almost any storage device or empty Intelligent and Armed they can be transferred to. Only with my recent Zubaida Arc and Matsuri Miyama stories though are they physically independent from any devices
I would like to disagree on the point that they helped to create Rein. I mean, if they have a rough idea, why don't they get the entire process out from Hayate while they're helping her?

From what we know, Unison devices are intelligent devices taken to the extreme, But I don't think its so simple. The TSAB may have help Hayate to a point (basic construction of an A.I for example) but I think she has to do the rest herself to make that into a Unison device, Rein. Also if the TSAB has a rough idea, why hasn't Nanoha and Fate ask the TSAB and Hayate to convert Raising Heart and Bardiche to Unison devices. Why go for the more dangerous limit break modes than use an Unison device which helps boost power and a lot safer as well?

The answer I suspect is that Rein's creation is unique to Hayate, via the process similiar to that of the guardian knight system.
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I would like to disagree on the point that they helped to create Rein. I mean, if they have a rough idea, why don't they get the entire process out from Hayate while they're helping her?

From what we know, Unison devices are intelligent devices taken to the extreme, But I don't think its so simple. The TSAB may have help Hayate to a point (basic construction of an A.I for example) but I think she has to do the rest herself to make that into a Unison device, Rein. Also if the TSAB has a rough idea, why hasn't Nanoha and Fate ask the TSAB and Hayate to convert Raising Heart and Bardiche to Unison devices. Why go for the more dangerous limit break modes than use an Unison device which helps boost power and a lot safer as well?

The answer I suspect is that Rein's creation is unique to Hayate, via the process similiar to that of the guardian knight system.
Oh lord not this again...
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