2011-09-12, 19:39 | Link #16501 | |
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And what is this hate on thing? The Brits have been more politically tied to the US than ever before since WWII. If anything, the hatred for US warfare is SHARED by the US; you saw the counterculture against Vietnam spread into Britain, and popular sentiment in the US for the current wars has been anything but high since the years after 9/11. Anyways, I'm gonna have to agree to disagree here. Because when it comes down to it it is opinionated on some level, and from the perspective of a fundamental Muslim I don't think the difference between the US and UK are as noticeable/remarkable as they are to us. |
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2011-09-12, 20:02 | Link #16502 |
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...3JI4.DTL&tsp=1
Two men pleaded not guilty to murder charges Monday in the daylight shooting that killed a 3-year-old boy in East Oakland. Lawrence Curtis Denard, 26, and Willie Torrence, 22, entered their pleas in Alameda County Superior Court in Oakland. Their attorneys declined comment after the brief hearing before Judge Carrie Panetta. anyone know when Anon is scheduling a protest for the little boy?
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2011-09-12, 20:39 | Link #16503 | |
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Among the things where Britain and the US differ noticeably, and which causes most of the friction: * Religious attitudes, Britain is not a very religious country, the United States on the other hand... * Ethnicity, the US contains a mixture of many European ethnicities, Latin Americans, Chinese and Afro-Americans. Britain is much more predominantly British, with the largest minorities being Indians, Pakistanis, Afro-Carribeans and Chinese. Very different cultural mix. * Britain is still quite aristocratic, much power is still held by the landed gentry, just look at the front bench of Conservative party. The United States is Plutocratic, all you need is a lot of money, doesn't really matter how old it is. * Related to the above, Britain has a far larger divide between the (native) working class and the upper classes. The US has it far smaller, though instead it has the large numbers of Hispanics. But you can't really say that the US has a "working class" and an "upper class" culture very easily. *Instead of a class divide, the US has more of a City/Country divide. The UK's City/Country divide is far less pronounced, for one thing it has a far smaller rural population. *The UK has no problems with Socialism, large numbers of people in the US consider socialism an evil to be crushed. *The UK and US do not share the same foreign policies. For instance the UK did not support the US in Vietnam, and the US actually opposed Britain over the Suez crisis. *UK politics works completely differently from the United States. *Very different attitudes to state power, particularly from conservatives. The UK has no problems with centralization of power in the state, in the US it's the opposite, where talk of the federal government being corrupt and evil is widespread. *The UK actually had an Empire, America's Empire is far more figurative. *The UK has more variation in terms of how English is spoken, the United States has less variation given it's size. *The UK has very different tastes in Music, asides from the occasional blast of cross atlantic interest. Right now they're more different then ever. *Very different media landscape. Britain has a strong tradition of Public television and Radio, until the advent of Cable it had very little commercial television. Also, a very different sense of humour. As an example, the US has many long running "family" sitcoms a la the Cosby show. Britain tends to have more varied settings, and few of them are long running. In fact, I can't name a British family sitcom at all. There are parts of the US that the UK shares a lot more in common with, namely New England(coincidentally, where you're from...), but I would not extend that across the rest of the country. I'd certainly say that the South, Mid West and West Coast are very different from the UK. People in the UK would not share much feeling of kinship with people from the South, their attitudes are far too different. Last edited by DonQuigleone; 2011-09-12 at 20:54. |
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2011-09-13, 01:52 | Link #16505 | |
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2011-09-13, 05:33 | Link #16506 |
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Perry targeted by rivals in Republican debate
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7861J620110913
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2011-09-13, 07:30 | Link #16507 | ||
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2011-09-13, 08:58 | Link #16510 | |
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If he is elected prez, God forbid, well, that old aphorism will apply to this whole poor, stumbling country-"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice..." |
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2011-09-13, 09:32 | Link #16511 | |
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The United States does not have a "high culture" or a "low culture" in the way the UK, and other European countries, have. There are cultural divides between different ethnic groups (EG Whites and Hispanics etc.), but within those ethnic groups (particularly whites, the majority culture), it varies more by geography then class. The USA has a considerable economic divide, but a much lower Class divide, the only indicator of class in America is your wealth or fame. But there isn't much of a cultural one. For instance, everyone drinks Coke. In Britain that would be considered distinctly working class. Upper class status is something all Americans can aspire towards, in Britain, a working class person can only at best be described as "nouveau riche". Last edited by DonQuigleone; 2011-09-13 at 10:16. |
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2011-09-13, 11:16 | Link #16512 | |
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- it's easier to get into - many fellow countrymen or family members are already there (see #1) - social benefits - soft police force and justice system (or administration/politics in general) Sometimes one of the western countries gets a bit more hatred than the others, like Denmark when those Muhammad cartoons were published, and yes, probably the US is the most hated. But they still hate all of the western societies. And aside from the economic reasons, they also dream of taking over Europe and turn it into a caliphate. So for them it makes perfect sense to immigrate, especially if they are radical Muslims. |
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2011-09-13, 12:08 | Link #16513 |
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Berlin police officer souses himself with gasoline and burns himself to death
The title says "bullying", but that does not quite fit it, which you'll learn after reading the article. He was only a few months away from retirement, and colleagues say that the reasons lay not in his personal life, but the way his superiors and the police force in general is only aiming to look good in statistics, instead of doing good old police work. He even said to a colleague: "They [the superiors] have burned me up". |
2011-09-13, 14:02 | Link #16514 |
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Taliban attack across Kabul, target U.S. Embassy
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...78B61S20110913 That will not help to accelerate the leaving of foreing troup...
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2011-09-13, 14:33 | Link #16515 | |
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2011-09-13, 15:46 | Link #16517 |
Gamilas Falls
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If things continue as people expect, the PLO is just spinning its wheels for nothing. A US veto will stop the bid cold. i can't tell if it is Israel or Palestine that is being unreasonable in the terms of renewing their talks anymore. Fatah, while more reasonable than Hamas, is still having issues with their own people.
While I'd rather them have just the West Bank, it looks like Israel would rather they had just Gaza, at least based on the levels of settlements going in around the Jordan River. Have there construction and districting commissions even suggested how far they will go pushing into the West Bank?
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2011-09-13, 16:05 | Link #16518 | |
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2011-09-13, 18:12 | Link #16519 | |
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