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Christen · 2009-07-31, 07:22

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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

Battler might have been deceived into thinking that the odor came from Natsuhi's gun because he couldn't think there could be another gun (as proven from the fact he illogically thought it was suicide). He then recharged the gun without noticing that the bullet wasn't spent.

Kinda far-fatched, but not impossible.

I was also thinking along these lines. Though the anime makes it harder now.

Freelii · 2009-07-31, 11:54

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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

So now even if he said that the smell came from Natsuhi's gun, as I said, a human being cannot clearly discern the source of an odor. It's not like he's seen the smoke. So if the culprit fired the gun from a close position, Battler might have been deceived into thinking that the odor came from Natsuhi's gun because he couldn't think there could be another gun (as proven from the fact he illogically thought it was suicide). He then recharged the gun without noticing that the bullet wasn't spent.

Kinda far-fatched, but not impossible.

That's the best I can come up with as well.

I just touched on this in the main discussion thread for episode 5 of the anime, but it's better suited to being branched out here. Who else is looking forward to Sayaka Ohara's performance as Beatrice once we get around to Episode 3 material, with all the moé moé "I'm sorry, Battler!

"

Since we've started off with a very mature/deep voice for Beatrice, I'm interested to see how the VA will manipulate that to achieve Beatrice's faux soft personality.

Deathkillz · 2009-07-31, 12:08

I personally dislike the voice and the design for anime Beatrice. The mature/deepness of Sayaka's voice doesn't fit her at all for the fact that it does "feel" young. Despite we never know the age of Beatrice I would say that her actions and appearance (in the game) puts her somewhere around mid 20s. There is a serious side of her but also a child-like personality at times so its really hard to think of her with such a mature, no messing, "Eva" kind of voice. Appearance wise she looks almost too beautiful to be true and that looks back round to making her "ugly". I mean...what the heck is up with the over use of her "slit eyes" expression and oh my god her face is too spaced apart...

Spoiler:

Freelii · 2009-07-31, 12:18

I honestly had more problems with the length of her neck than her face. As for her appearance of age... the way she's drawn in the anime strikes me as a pretty solid 30, or a few years younger. The screenshot you posted isn't all that bad in terms of an "empty face." I can see your point better with:

(courtesy of Mion in the avatar request thread)

The anime rendition of Beatrice seems like a vast visual upgrade over her VN sprite. But then, I'm not exactly a fan of Ryukushi's character designs

sento · 2009-07-31, 12:19

Ohara have a camaleonic voice, really. Probably she will be able to work with all of that issues. And now, she is doing the almost "elegant" Beato of EP1 and first chapters of EP2.

I think that's why she was handpicked.

Marion · 2009-07-31, 12:21

Well we've only seen one side of Ohara's Beatrice so far. She'll probably have to sound a little less mature when EP 3 comes into air and she acts all moe and tsundere.

I bet all the smoking got to her voice~

urusai · 2009-07-31, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Deathkillz

I mean...what the heck is up with the over use of her "slit eyes" expression and oh my god her face is too spaced apart...

Don't worry, when episode 6 comes her character design changes quite a bit (much larger eyes, for one). Thanks DEEN!

chounokoe · 2009-07-31, 12:36

I personally always imagined Beatrice sounding like that.
She is obviously supposed to be within the same age-range as the other children of Kinzô, at least the image that most characters have in their heads...
She has to be able to be a smooth-talking, elegant witch at one point and a bratty, childish, arrogant girly-type woman at another point...but it is always implied that she acts unfit for her apparent age (and that's not talking about her supposed 1000 years).

Well I think people get different pictures in their head all the time, there are always fights about live-action adaptions of novels...so why not about a seiyuu.
We can't force anyone to like her....but I think she's doing a terrific job, especially if she pulls a similar thing as in the drama-cd.

Deathkillz · 2009-07-31, 12:39

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Originally Posted by Freelii

I honestly had more problems with the length of her neck than her face. As for her appearance of age... the way she's drawn in the anime strikes me as a pretty solid 30, or a few years younger. The screenshot you posted isn't all that bad in terms of an "empty face." I can see your point better with:

(courtesy of Mion in the avatar request thread)

The anime rendition of Beatrice seems like a vast visual upgrade over her VN sprite. But then, I'm not exactly a fan of Ryukushi's character designs

Ah thanks, that was the screen cap I was looking for but couldn't find...it looks absolutely "beautiful" in an ugly way

And heck...I'm completely in love with Ryukishi's sprites

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Originally Posted by urusai

Don't worry, when episode 6 comes her character design changes quite a bit (much larger eyes, for one). Thanks DEEN!

Take away some of Battler's eyes and give it to Beatrice...please

sento · 2009-07-31, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Deathkillz

Take away some of Battler's eyes and give it to Beatrice...please

I think that compared to I-I and I-II, his design improved A LOT.

gtr06 · 2009-07-31, 12:46

What if someone lured Natsuhi out to protect the children? If Natsuhi was pulling an episode 3 ending when the last two were alone in the lobby, then maybe when they broke through to see Natsuhi shot, maybe they instead were shot and everything else was meta world.

Seagull · 2009-07-31, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Marion

Well we've only seen one side of Ohara's Beatrice so far. She'll probably have to sound a little less mature when EP 3 comes into air and she acts all moe and tsundere.

I bet all the smoking got to her voice~

Yep. Hard to imagine tsundere beato with that voice, along with her "undignified" cackling.

Freelii · 2009-07-31, 23:04

Hey, speaking of "beato" ...

..I always assumed the pronunciation was like "bee-toh," similar to how Yukari Tamura (voice of Bern) says "fate-chan" all the time as Nanoha (fay-toh-chan). But listening to the ??? tea party in the anime, I could have sworn I heard Beatrice referred to as "Beato" pronounced as "bey-ah-toh."

This 2nd pronounciation definately sounds more like the 2nd half of "Beatrice" got cut off, but it's a bit confuddling since I've heard it the former way in my head for so long.

urusai · 2009-08-01, 00:58

Yeah, it's indeed pronounced as "bey-ah-toh". It'd be easier to see if you look at the original katakana (ベアト as opposed to ビート).

MeoTwister5 · 2009-08-01, 01:43

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throughout the whole arc, other than the servants (+doctor) and Natsuhi, did ANYONE see Kinzo being alive? Also, can the adults hear the roaring from inside the study when they are banging on the door?
just some queries.

This guy in the episode 5 thread is starting to question if anyone else actually saw Kinzo alive other than the servants, Nanjo and Natsuhi.

Hohohoho. People are catching on. I imagine the look on their faces when perhaps one of the biggest plot twists come around.

Saerianne · 2009-08-01, 01:46

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

This guy in the episode 5 thread is starting to question if anyone else actually saw Kinzo alive other than the servants, Nanjo and Natsuhi.

Hohohoho. People are catching on. I imagine the look on their faces when perhaps one of the biggest plot twists come around.

I saw this too.
Play the game and you will find the answer sooner! DDDD: YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK!
XD

k//eternal · 2009-08-01, 01:58

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

I imagine the look on their faces when perhaps one of the biggest plot twists come around.

I think they'd be more surprised if they weren't catching on, though.

MeoTwister5 · 2009-08-01, 02:04

Or their brains could asplode. It's not fun without exploding brains.

I'm pretty sure my brain exited my ears at 3 times the speed of sound when Ushiromiya Kinzo was dead before the start of every game.

Marion · 2009-08-01, 02:42

Spoiler for EP 3:

Jimprovement · 2009-08-01, 02:49

Spoiler for Episode 4:

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Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	I personally dislike the voice and the design for anime Beatrice. The mature/deepness of Sayaka's voice doesn't fit her at all for the fact that it does "feel" young. Despite we never know the age of Beatrice I would say that her actions and appearance (in the game) puts her somewhere around mid 20s. There is a serious side of her but also a child-like personality at times so its really hard to think of her with such a mature, no messing, "Eva" kind of voice. Appearance wise she looks almost too beautiful to be true and that looks back round to making her "ugly". I mean...what the heck is up with the over use of her "slit eyes" expression and oh my god her face is too spaced apart... Spoiler: Empty face is empty __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

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chounokoe Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Düsseldorf, Germany Age: 40	I personally always imagined Beatrice sounding like that. She is obviously supposed to be within the same age-range as the other children of Kinzô, at least the image that most characters have in their heads... She has to be able to be a smooth-talking, elegant witch at one point and a bratty, childish, arrogant girly-type woman at another point...but it is always implied that she acts unfit for her apparent age (and that's not talking about her supposed 1000 years). Well I think people get different pictures in their head all the time, there are always fights about live-action adaptions of novels...so why not about a seiyuu. We can't force anyone to like her....but I think she's doing a terrific job, especially if she pulls a similar thing as in the drama-cd. __________________ 愛が無ければ・・・視えない！！

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MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	Or their brains could asplode. It's not fun without exploding brains. I'm pretty sure my brain exited my ears at 3 times the speed of sound when Ushiromiya Kinzo was dead before the start of every game. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

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Marion The Great Dine Join Date: Feb 2009	Spoiler for EP 3: Just imagine the look on their faces when Beatrice ultimate trolls them with her moe act XD Oh man, if they're surprised at Beatrice appearing and Bernkastel then they'll die with EP 3 coming around.

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Jimprovement Televangelist Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA. Age: 33	Spoiler for Episode 4: I'm more interested to see all the reactions to the Ep. 4 ???? Delicious yandere Bernkastel~

2009-07-31, 12:18	Link #1644
Freelii (￣▽￣)ノ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dodging spoilers...	I honestly had more problems with the length of her neck than her face. As for her appearance of age... the way she's drawn in the anime strikes me as a pretty solid 30, or a few years younger. The screenshot you posted isn't all that bad in terms of an "empty face." I can see your point better with: (courtesy of Mion in the avatar request thread) The anime rendition of Beatrice seems like a vast visual upgrade over her VN sprite. But then, I'm not exactly a fan of Ryukushi's character designs

2009-07-31, 12:19	Link #1645
sento Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	Ohara have a camaleonic voice, really. Probably she will be able to work with all of that issues. And now, she is doing the almost "elegant" Beato of EP1 and first chapters of EP2. I think that's why she was handpicked.

2009-07-31, 12:21	Link #1646
Marion The Great Dine Join Date: Feb 2009	Well we've only seen one side of Ohara's Beatrice so far. She'll probably have to sound a little less mature when EP 3 comes into air and she acts all moe and tsundere. I bet all the smoking got to her voice~

2009-07-31, 12:46	Link #1651
gtr06 Golden Watch Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canada Age: 40	What if someone lured Natsuhi out to protect the children? If Natsuhi was pulling an episode 3 ending when the last two were alone in the lobby, then maybe when they broke through to see Natsuhi shot, maybe they instead were shot and everything else was meta world.

2009-07-31, 23:04	Link #1653
Freelii (￣▽￣)ノ Join Date: May 2009 Location: Dodging spoilers...	Hey, speaking of "beato" ... ..I always assumed the pronunciation was like "bee-toh," similar to how Yukari Tamura (voice of Bern) says "fate-chan" all the time as Nanoha (fay-toh-chan). But listening to the ??? tea party in the anime, I could have sworn I heard Beatrice referred to as "Beato" pronounced as "bey-ah-toh." This 2nd pronounciation definately sounds more like the 2nd half of "Beatrice" got cut off, but it's a bit confuddling since I've heard it the former way in my head for so long.

2009-08-01, 00:58	Link #1654
urusai Member Join Date: Jul 2009	Yeah, it's indeed pronounced as "bey-ah-toh". It'd be easier to see if you look at the original katakana (ベアト as opposed to ビート).