2013-05-08, 20:02 | Link #1721 | |
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People are making assumptions, like "why don't L-Elf ruin Haruto" as if it wouldn't doom himself, or "why don't the world powers throw their entire army at the school" like they have the troops to spare. Too many people here are thinking too small and completely failed to see the big picture. L-Elf can't either, which is why he is being pushed aside. His attitude got him nowhere. L-Elf is NOT some superspy. He can kill people, but if you think he can get anywhere doing something other than killing, you are sadly mistaken.
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2013-05-08, 20:05 | Link #1722 | |
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The reveal that he's not human any longer never goes well with the general populace, especially a group of Japanese anime students. (How many times have I seen that...) And we really also have yet to see the full scale of L-11's talents, we don't know if he can play the charmer or not. He doesn't need to act with Haruto because Haruto knows who and what he is. Also he never needed to do so when he infiltrated the school because their mission was get in, steal the Valvrave and then help in the invasion. He had no reason to be nice.
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2013-05-08, 20:08 | Link #1723 | |
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You are acting like this is Haruto vs L-Elf. When it is actually L-Elf begging Haruto to help him when Haruto doesn't need L-Elf in return. There is NOTHING L-Elf can threaten Haruto with that wouldn't screw himself in the process. You are proposing that L-Elf threaten to destroy the school and himself with it. I am starting to think L-Elf isn't the foolish one here. As for stealing the VVV? I love to seem him try, as it seems we have proof each unit can only have one designated pilot.
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2013-05-08, 20:12 | Link #1724 | |
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L-Elf may end up being spurned repeatedly by Haruto so I can see him wanting to make a contract and getting close to Shoko because he knows Haruto loves her.
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2013-05-08, 20:13 | Link #1725 | |
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I'm sure that the Karlstein school taught him more than just how to kill. He would not be an effective infiltrator if he never learned how to blend in. I think you're selling L-11 a little short. Yes killing is his first option, but it is also the most efficient option. If your opponent is dead he can't come back to get you (except for space vampires that is...) but he also seems to know when NOT to kill as well. He didn't kill Yamada when he obviously could have. So there is more to him, we just need to let him be flushed out more. It has only been 4 episodes.
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2013-05-08, 20:22 | Link #1726 | |
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2013-05-08, 20:24 | Link #1727 | |
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If there was one thing L-11 didn't do, it was beg. He never begged Haruto, he commanded him. I never said that L-11 was going to destroy the school or anything like that, but he did promise to save it. He sees this a beneficial for both of them, and he will make Haruto see things his way. And he is right. Right now, all Shoko's plan did was put them under siege. Eventually the bigger issue of Dorssia will need to be tackled in order to truly resolve things. I stand by the fact that L-11 and Haruto WILL eventually make a contract, but Haruto's just being stubborn and deluded at the moment. Right now all he's thinking about is saving his classmates and friends, but like almost every mecha MC, he will eventually learn that in order to do this, he's got to look at the much bigger picture.
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2013-05-08, 20:44 | Link #1728 |
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If anything, he's inept at communication. You can pretty see that at how he's arguing with Haruto in the middle of infiltrating mission in episode 1, and how he's trying to recruit Haruto in recent ep. The guy is actually doing everything alone if everything that's shown is in any indication. Aside from A-Drei, and could be that eye patch guy, I don't really see anyone else actually cares about him. That says great deal about his charisma.
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2013-05-08, 21:28 | Link #1729 | |
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This is NOT "can L-Elf screw Haruto", this is "can L-Elf get what he wants at all". L-Elf have no leverage because he needed the school to survive as much as everyone else. He has nowhere to run.
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2013-05-08, 21:48 | Link #1730 | ||
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2013-05-08, 22:03 | Link #1732 | |
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With no plan for the future at all other than "let's make our own country!".
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There's also hints that there will be competition for Shoko, with L-Elf's interest in her and knowing her importance to Haruto he may very well sweep her off her feet to get her on his wavelength and to pressure Haruto who will keep quiet, for Shoko's sake, and play nice to protect Shoko. |
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2013-05-08, 22:08 | Link #1734 | ||
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2013-05-08, 22:15 | Link #1735 |
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Random spoilers from Newtype posted by 2ch-ers (nothing too major I think, most probably be revealed in tomorrow's episode, or the poster supposedly speculates):
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The conversation moves too fast for me to catch up if any of these are old information then just ignore. |
2013-05-08, 22:31 | Link #1737 | |
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2013-05-08, 22:38 | Link #1738 |
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With the next episode coming out in a little less than 13 hours, and the first subs hopefully a few hours after that, what are everyone's expectations for this episode?
What do you think will happen in episode 5?
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2013-05-08, 22:40 | Link #1739 |
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VVV are individual units, not parts refitted or whatever.
Saki will begin to approach Haruto starting Episode 5 (yeahh Sakiiiii !!). Kibukawa (the male teacher) is a spy. Kibukawa left all the work to Nanami (female teacher) and went underground. Seems like Haruto and co. will grab all the VVV. Are this fact stated by the creators of the anime valvrave? or just some prediction? |
2013-05-08, 22:43 | Link #1740 | |
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