Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn RE:0096 - General Discussion

[kgrodriguez]

Long time Gundam fan here, but the Unicorn is the first UC calendar series I've really watched. So this next question might sound stupid, but please bear with me -

In a fight between the Nu Gundam and Unicorn, who would come out on top (assuming that they are both in peek condition)? Can the Unicorn snatch control of the Fin Funnels?

[Rising Dragon]

Yes, it can. As for who'd win, it'd otherwise depend on the pilot. If it were Amuro and Banagher, Amuro would undoubtedly decimate Banagher.

[Faux Mecha]

it probably depends on the fiction too despite sometimes being not cannon,
like that time in Dynasty Warriors Gundam where he manages to repel the Turn A's Moonlight Butterfly with the Nu Gundam's Psycoframe without damaging the unit,
yeah i know some people were like HURR-DURR!! because he's the original Gundam protagonist thus representing Gundam franchise's genesis so the staff made him more h4xxxx than Kira Yamato in terms of DBZ Scouter power levels ~derp.

[xeviouses]

Amuro himself doesn't have much experience using NT weaponry, Nu Gundam was his first foray with it.

Specwise the Unicorn is stronger than Nu, being designed to counter Newtypes and all.

But in the end it will fall to piloting skills and Amuro has been at it longer then Banagher has, so his experience should be enough to defeat the Unicorn.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by kgrodriguez

Can the Unicorn snatch control of the Fin Funnels?

Yes, it absolutely can. Even more so if the opponent pilot is Amuro (one of the strongest Newtypes in UC), Unicorn’s NT-D will react like crazy.

Originally Posted by kgrodriguez

In a fight between the Nu Gundam and Unicorn, who would come out on top (assuming that they are both in peek condition)?

Well, considering Amuro’s forte is not really on using Funnels, but melee & sniping, I can see him able to still be on top. Amuro is originally the slayer of MA/MSs that use Funnels on him (thanks to his Newtype reflexes), so he can still find a way to win even if Unicorn uses Nu’s Funnels against him. Rather than the Funnels, Amuro might have a hard time against Unicorn when it goes Berserk (like in the last episode of Unicorn) but can still exploit the Destroy Mode that can only active for five minutes or so. And yeah, veteran Amuro when he’s piloting Nu can’t be compared to the relatively-green Banagher.

[kgrodriguez]

I know it is both due to the following factors, but will a Nu victory be more because Amuro is that good, or it is more due to Banagher being inexperienced?

I'm guessing that if you switch pilots, the Unicorn will eat the Nu alive.

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Yes, it absolutely can. Even more so if the opponent pilot is Amuro (one of the strongest Newtypes in UC), Unicorn’s NT-D will react like crazy.

So the Unicorn's NT-D output also depends on how strong the opponents Newtype is? (Again, this is the first time I'm watching the Unicorn).

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by kgrodriguez

I know it is both due to the following factors, but will a Nu victory be more because Amuro is that good, or it is more due to Banagher being inexperienced?

If both pilots are equally competent, I can see Unicorn has more edge in the fight, which is perfectly normal since Unicorn is the newer Gundam with more advanced tech. For example, Nu only has psychoframes around its cockpit while Unicorn has the frame all over its body. Also, story-wise, Nu is not even a truly finished Gundam. Amuro hurriedly put it together to intercept Char. Hi-nu Gundam from the alternate-UC novel is the more complete version of the Nu Gundam.

Originally Posted by kgrodriguez

I'm guessing that if you switch pilots, the Unicorn will eat the Nu alive.

Yes, it will.

Originally Posted by kgrodriguez

So the Unicorn's NT-D output also depends on how strong the opponents Newtype is? (Again, this is the first time I'm watching the Unicorn).

Well, NT-D is still a bit mysterious of a system (just like Newtype). But one thing we know, it will react strongly to Newtype powers (be it the opponents or the pilot inside).

[kgrodriguez]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

If both pilots are equally competent, I can see Unicorn has more edge in the fight, which is perfectly normal since Unicorn is the newer Gundam with more advanced tech. For example, Nu only has psychoframes around its cockpit while Unicorn has the frame all over its body. Also, story-wise, Nu is not even a truly finished Gundam. Amuro hurriedly put it together to intercept Char. Hi-nu Gundam from the alternate-UC novel is the more complete version of the Nu Gundam.

Has there ever been an animation featuring the Hi-Nu? I've always wanted to see that in action.


So again, another hypothetical, with equally competent pilots, who would win between the Hi-Nu and the Unicorn?

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by kgrodriguez

Has there ever been an animation featuring the Hi-Nu? I've always wanted to see that in action.

Aside from games, Hi-Nu has been animated in Gunpla Builders Beginning OVA (but only as the Gunpla version, not the actual mech) and I think there are some bits and pieces in Gundam Build Fighters.

Originally Posted by kgrodriguez

So again, another hypothetical, with equally competent pilots, who would win between the Hi-Nu and the Unicorn?

With equally-competent Newtype pilots, and no surprise attacks or guerilla warfare, Unicorn will still win the fight in an open duel.

[darkone45]

This might sound unrelated, but did Sunrise say anything about doing G reco movies ? someone on Reddit told me, but ANN has no info on that so dose Crunchyroll, should I assume this person was lying or misinformed ?

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by darkone45

This might sound unrelated, but did Sunrise say anything about doing G reco movies ? someone on Reddit told me, but ANN has no info on that so dose Crunchyroll, should I assume this person was lying or misinformed ?

It would be a TV Series compilation G-Reco movie (first out of three, with the other two to follow if the first does well) and Tomino reportedly mentioned in a public lecture which we have some transcripts from. Don't think Sunrise has actually officially it announced yet though.

Might be better off being asked in the Gundam Q&A or G-Reco thread though, depending on where you're going with this.

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[Mad Pierrot]

Dumb question. Is there some sort of machine in the series that can change Fullfrontal's voice? I mean, he sounds identical to Char.

[xeviouses]

Originally Posted by amaterasu4

Dumb question. Is there some sort of machine in the series that can change Fullfrontal's voice? I mean, he sounds identical to Char.

Spoiler for Necessary for those who don't know:

Considering they have the tech to implant someones memories to another, I don't see why they can't modify his voice. It would really sell the illusion that he is 'Char'. Though Full Frontal himself would admit he isn't.

[Mad Pierrot]

Episode 8 was a bit meh. They did a lot of recapping. Hopefully Sunrise will make up for this

Originally Posted by xeviouses

Spoiler for Necessary for those who don't know:

Considering they have the tech to implant someones memories to another, I don't see why they can't modify his voice. It would really sell the illusion that he is 'Char'. Though Full Frontal himself would admit he isn't.

I was going to guess he is literally a clone like Elpeo.

[Rising Dragon]

Full Frontal is a bit tricky.

Spoiler for Background and later plot details:

Full Frontal is, physically, a clone of Char Aznable/Casval Deikun. However, this aspect of him is further reinforced by having the memories of Char implanted in him, taken from the echo of Char stored in the Sazabi's Psycoframe cockpit, presumably recovered after Char's Counterattack (along with his corpse, I would imagine). I also believe it's been theorized that a shade of Char himself exists within Full Frontal, more than just memories, due to what happens to him at the end of the storyline.

[kgrodriguez]

So wait, his name really is Full Frontal? As in, Mr. Full Frontal?

[Rising Dragon]

I don't think he has a proper registered name beyond that. It's a pretty tongue-in-cheek one, all things considered.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by kgrodriguez

So wait, his name really is Full Frontal? As in, Mr. Full Frontal?

Hey, it’s still better than Quattro Vagina .

Casval/Char was never good in making up his own cover name. The name Edouard Mass and Char Aznable were already given to him, but when he had to make up a name of his own during Zeta Gundam’s period, he came up with Quattro Vagina . And since Full Frontal has Char’s memory, I assume he shares Char’s sense of making odd names for himself (unless Full Frontal is another given name).

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

Hey, it’s still better than Quattro Vagina .

Casval/Char was never good in making up his own cover name. The name Edouard Mass and Char Aznable were already given to him, but when he had to make up a name of his own during Zeta Gundam’s period, he came up with Quattro Vagina . And since Full Frontal has Char’s memory, I assume he shares Char’s sense of making odd names for himself (unless Full Frontal is another given name).