Episode 8 Discussion

[dot_rain]

yeah , how about this anime ends in hentai way ^o^

[tem]

Originally Posted by Vulkar

Haha. That ending with the green haired nurse is a bit disturbing. Sadly, I don't think the anime will end that way... :P

Ahaha, and that ending was better than the Pink-haired nurse one.

Meh, okay, I don't hate Takayuki. There, I said it. He just angers me more than any other character, and I want to drop kick him to Siberia alot. ^^ But that's all. ::saunters off::

[DragonFly28]

LOL at the green hair nurse ending. And here I was thinking, after watching ep 8, that Takayuki should have his balls cut off with a blunt, rusty object.

[Nothing Special]

Just saw 8...

Mitsuki admitted that she betrayed Haruka... but she didn't accuse Takayuki of the same. *ugh*

Takayuki should be with Haruka (he'll probably treat her better) but only after getting dumped by Mitsuki. He has no right to dump Mitsuki. She put way more into the relationship than he ever did.

The green-haired nurse ending is great. :lol:

[z-kun]

Originally Posted by Whojive

wow totally different take on this ep than most of the people here
1st thing: anime != game, given this Akane's feelings are unknown other than dissappointment in her "big brother"

my take of her standing on a bridge in the rain upset and wornout. she is stressed by the situation, her illusions of what the two people she looked up to are like have been shattered. i think she can't take "It" anymore. she is considering jumping. suicide.

Tak actually gained points this ep (other than sleeping with mitsuki) its obvious that up until this point his relationship with mitsuki has been something that she wanted that he just let happen cause it was easy for him to do to help with his loss of haruka. nowhere has it show that he loves mitsuki, he did say i rather unconvincingly in a few eps but you never really feel that he means it. so when haruka wakes up he is presented with someone he did love, his feelings are a little slow to return because of mitsuki and his not wanting to hurt her. by ep 8 tak has regained the love he had for haruka, he atleast shows it (probably because he sees that mitsuki is forcing stuff on him and it makes him question the whole relationship and he realizes thats how the whole thing has been)

the scar - this does shock tak back to the present, but not because he is repulsed by it more so as a reminder of the accident (him being lovey with haruka he could delude himself tat it didn't happen) and he feels bad because he has been with mitsuki and feels what Akane has about the situation, that he has betrayed haruka by being with mitsuki.

if i missed anything i'll add in another post or respond to any of your responses

i think you all got it WRONG XD

I think Akane was saying that she can't deal anymore with the pain of seeing her sister cheated in that way by Takayuki (after listening @ hospital room door) and that she can't keep the 'time-delay' secret anymore. I'm almost 100% positive that this is it's interpretation. Akane wasn't the mentally unstable type anyway

Seeing Akane's character, she will be the one that will reveal Haruka the truth. She has anyway the role of the clueless one that acts without knowing the whole story. (now that Takayuki has really feeling for Haruka, and does theatrics with Mitsuki)

[Mentar]

> I think Akane was saying that she can't deal anymore with
> the pain of seeing her sister cheated in that way by Takayuki
> (after listening @ hospital room door) and that she can't keep
> the 'time-delay' secret anymore. I'm almost 100% positive that
> this is it's interpretation. Akane wasn't the mentally unstable
> type anyway

Not illogical, but why would she address _Takayuki_ then, in such a vulnerable voice?

"Onii-chan ... watashi ... mou"

If she can't deal with the way Takayuki "cheats" Haruka, why address _him_ this way? Doesn't fit, IMHO.

> Seeing Akane's character, she will be the one that will reveal
> Haruka the truth. She has anyway the role of the clueless one
> that acts without knowing the whole story. (now that Takayuki
> has really feeling for Haruka, and does theatrics with Mitsuki)

I think the story arc showed a clear change in attitude towards Takayuki. Death glares - glares - frowns - neutral - vulnerable, almost teary-dreamy look. He's also back to onii-san, and most of the venom is gone.

(I'd agree that Akane falling for Bakayuki would be a bit much, but I read the signs a bit differently than you do)

[z-kun]

True...

That's what makes this anime so interesting. It gives room for speculation, but you can't see a clear path.... Each path is the opposite of the other. I too doubt that Akane fell for Bakayuki (<---- OMG that name is the invention of the century!!!).

Now that you cut my wings, i begin to doubt as well, since she addressed Bakayuki.... And Akane being torn is something new.

[bluemist]

I don't know, it looks as if Akane is a big wildcard in the anime! This is how I interpret it:

I think Akane started softening in episode 6. After she shunned Mitsuki away from the hospital (*death glare), Takayuki came (*glare), then she fled, but looked back (*neutral) and said 'Narumi-san'.

In episode 7, she saw Haruka and Takayuki holding hands, then she ran and exchanged a bit of dialogue with him (*glare). She said, 'Please don't toy with my onee-san's feelings anymore' (*frown). Then she was congratulated by Takayuki for winning a swimming tournament (*neutral)

But in episode 8, after listening behind the door (*vulnerable), and realizing Takayuki's not coming lately, she finally becomes *teary-dreamy in the rain, calling Takayuki 'onii-chan'.

And so I ask, why the sudden change? At first Akane doesn't like Takayuki 'visiting' Haruka (ep. 6-7). Now she doesn't like Takayuki 'not visiting' Haruka (ep. 8) as expressed by her rain-bathing.

[Tboz]

Haruka wants Takayuki to visit, she even made a remark in one of the scene. Could Akane have gone to see him for her sister's sake?

I have to admit the atmosphere doesn't seems right though, why did she ran away when she saw Takayuki? If she is doing it for her sister, she could just have confronted him face to face.

Maybe she is hesitant about it? She doesn't want to see Takayuki cheating on her sister anymore, but yet she can't bear with Haruka's forlorn look...

Just some thoughts.

[Mentar]

I happened to rewatch ep2 recently after a longer time and took some time to concentrate on Akane a bit more than usual. Gotta love her for bullying Takayuki like this ... sooo funny.

Anyway, it's obvious that her interest in Takayuki (not romantic back then, but interest) was very strong and genuine. Also remember a teary Akane begging Mitsuki to take care of onee-san _and_ onii-chan. I guess that maybe in the present a good part of her wants to go back to the "happier" times of old. She really liked him alot - otherwise she wouldn't have pestered him so much.

Thinking back, Takayuki never showed any hostility towards her, even when she was lashing out in her rage he was kind to her, and complimenting her efforts and achievements. Moreover, she doesn't seem to have anyone else to talk to, and I can assure you guys that caring for a family member in a hospital for THAT long a time puts an incredible strain on you. I guess she wants some kindness towards her in return ...

Just some random thoughts.

[bluemist]

I thought Akane was the most mature and stable person in the anime, and now she's breaking apart as well (it's either her own venom bites her, or Takayuki's torment is just too contagious).

The strange thing is she's still getting high points in her swimming, even with all her angst/loneliness. Mitsuki couldn't do that, as seen in ep. 5.

But I think I finally understand my own POV on the "Onii-chan ... watashi ... mou" part. Akane thinks of the idea of telling the truth about the 'time delay', and she's trying to make a win-win situation out of it (Haruka should understand, and Takayuki and Mitsuki would leave them alone). I think she's trying to make everyone happy, just like the old days...

But then again, if she did tell the truth, chances are Haruka will get into a second coma!

[Mentar]

> But I think I finally understand my own POV on the "Onii-
> chan ... watashi ... mou" part. Akane thinks of the idea of
> telling the truth about the 'time delay', and she's trying
> to make a win-win situation out of it (Haruka should
> understand, and Takayuki and Mitsuki would leave them
> alone). I think she's trying to make everyone happy, just
> like the old days...

Hmmm *ponders*

I see two problems with this: First, it would directly go against Haruka's wishes to do so ... she had done so 1-2 times in the past, but would she hurt Haruka like this especially since there are chances for her to get together with Takayuki? Possibly, but ...

The second and more grave point: By doing so Mitsuki would "win". And if there's one defining trait of the "present" Akane, then it's the hatred for her. She made it clear: "I won't let you feel better, you have to suffer much more!"

And yeah, you're right - At the going rate, I'm afraid poor Haruka is headed for another shock. Coma number two would be very possible.

Intriguing stuff. It was no "sudden" development IMHO, she gradually thawed towards Takayuki. And I want to see ep9 kinda like RIGHT NOW

[HeeroX]

I think that Akane will confess to Takayuki in ep9.

[Baka_XD]

In fact, I think the anime follows closely to HARUKA's ending......

And, I really hope it won't end as same as the game's ending does....becoz...

Spoiler:

MITSUKI will suicide when HARUKA leaves the hospital

[Keitaro]

Originally Posted by Baka_XD

In fact, I think the anime follows closely to HARUKA's ending......

And, I really hope it won't end as same as the game's ending does....becoz...

Spoiler:

MITSUKI will suicide when HARUKA leaves the hospital

Spoiler:

I don't like Mitsuki very much, but I don't want her to commiut suicide, does this really happen in the game

[Baka_XD]

In HARUKA ending, the scene has not been shown directly but....

Spoiler:

When HARUKA, TAKAYUKI and SHINJI are on HARUKA's father's car and the car is going away from the hospital, HARUKA suddenly call her father to stop. Then she run back to the hospital. When TAKAYUKI ask her why running back, SHINJI and HARUKA tell him to turn on his mobile phone......

He hears a voice message from MITSUKI, says that she will keep
the ring(the one that TAKAYUKI gives MITSUKI) for a while more. Then, HARUKA tell TAKAYUKI that MITSUKI has gone to the roof of the hospital (MITSUKI has visited HARUKA before TAKAYUKI arrived). And, TAKAYUKI look at the top of the building and he can't find anybody....After that, SHINJI, HARUKA and TAKAYUKI cry together....(and say something that too long to post here)

Although, MITSUKI has told HARUKA she will leaves the city for a while, it still appears that she has commited suicide.

However, in the ED song, it shows a picture which four of them take together (not the firework festival one). It seems that MITSUKI has not died...

Please correct if there is any error.(Both my English and Japanese are not very good)

[Key Board]

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[Key Board]

Originally Posted by Key Board

No no no...

MAJOR SPOILER for Haruka's ending.

Spoiler:

Mitsuki doesn't commit suicide

Mitsuki decides to leave town, since it's going to be very painful for her if she stayed in that town.

Fast forward a few years and they all eventually meet up again and take one last group picture under the Oak tree.

Afterwards everyone goes their own seperate ways.

As for the anime ending,

Spoiler:

Things are in favor of Haruka right now, but certain things heavily forshadow a Mitsuki ending