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Old 2014-08-19, 09:35   Link #1801
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Idk why people are fussing around with ideas of 'absorbing kinetic energy.'

If you want an explanation, surely the fact that there's Auras in this universe that functionally act as HP bars makes more sense. When Yang's defensive aura goes down, that same amount of energy gets channelled into her attacking power.

- Which is just my theory. I'm clarifying that because some people here do seem to be struggling with knowing the difference between a theory and absolute cast-iron truthfacts.
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Old 2014-08-19, 10:47   Link #1802
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Is it me or do the faces just seem not quite right, at all.
They all are a bit rounder in the cheeks than in the show, giving them something of a "babyfaced" look. I find Ruby and Blake to mostly look okay, Yang to be slightly off (though her facial expression is good), and Weiss to have the most trouble.

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But it contradicts "established" fanon and headcanon. Don't you see...?

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Yeeep, I'm kind of staring at the people calling 'retcon' and going 'You do realise that just because you imagined something, that doesn't make it canon, right?'
Seriously, it's bad enough to have to deal with people screaming "retcon" over the shipping nonsense, without having to deal with it over the actual, substantive content of the show.

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There are all sorts of conservation of energy issues that would restrict the amount of energy absorbed by yang.
Okay, you need to stop right there. This is an anime-inspired show where every human on the planet possesses a nebulous energy force called Aura whose sole narrative purpose for existence is to allow them to do wild and crazy things in combat, both in terms of enduring attacks from enemies, getting smashed through walls, and so on, as well as being able to hipshoot a sniper rifle, fire gauntlets strapped to their wrists, and other things that the laws of physics would otherwise tell you are impossible.

You cannot cite to real-world physics to explain why an in-show RPG-like superpower does not work the way the show says that it works.

Moreover, you can literally go back to the Yellow trailer and watch Yang fight and note that her Semblance works...exactly the way that Ruby says that it does. The only times she shows any "power-up" moments that don't immediately follow taking direct physical damage track directly to moments when her hair is damaged...Oh, wait, that is physical damage, isn't it?

Seriously, we're less than three hours into the running time of the show. Three. Bloody. Hours. If RWBY was a standard one-hour network TV series, that would be Episode 4. Do you seriously think the writers are that incompetent, that they had to rewrite the powerset of one of the main characters almost immediately into the show's run? Or maybe, just maybe it makes more sense that the writers decided to reveal that aspect of Yang's abilities on the first opportunity they had to give her a major fight, while that ability was entirely consistent with every depiction of her fighting seen previously!
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Old 2014-08-19, 12:11   Link #1803
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Okay, you need to stop right there. This is an anime-inspired show where every human on the planet possesses a nebulous energy force called Aura whose sole narrative purpose for existence is to allow them to do wild and crazy things in combat, both in terms of enduring attacks from enemies, getting smashed through walls, and so on, as well as being able to hipshoot a sniper rifle, fire gauntlets strapped to their wrists, and other things that the laws of physics would otherwise tell you are impossible.

You cannot cite to real-world physics to explain why an in-show RPG-like superpower does not work the way the show says that it works.
Oh its magic is a really really weak argument!

If you pose a theoretical world scenario & present control laws that define its functioning then you must expect whatever you include in that world to be held to the control laws.

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Seriously, we're less than three hours into the running time of the show. Three. Bloody. Hours. If RWBY was a standard one-hour network TV series, that would be Episode 4. Do you seriously think the writers are that incompetent, that they had to rewrite the powerset of one of the main characters almost immediately into the show's run? Or maybe, just maybe it makes more sense that the writers decided to reveal that aspect of Yang's abilities on the first opportunity they had to give her a major fight, while that ability was entirely consistent with every depiction of her fighting seen previously!
It would be fine if it was Episode 4, but it's not Episode 4 is it? How many weeks has it been? how many months?

It's not beyond the real of possibility for writers to be incompetent is it? Such ineptitude is an insult to the Audience, and a betrayal those who've grown to love the preceding work in the chronology
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Old 2014-08-19, 12:22   Link #1804
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I'm not really onboard witn RWBY....it's the 3D thing, for sure. :/

If it was hand-drawn, that'd be a different story....maybe.
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Old 2014-08-19, 13:13   Link #1805
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*munches popcorn as she reads through the last 4-5 pages*

I had no idea people were so passionate about this show and all its specifics!
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Old 2014-08-19, 13:36   Link #1806
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I have to end any commentary on the possibility of a RetCon; I may be experiencing Residual Trauma from DC's Final Crisis (Which forced me to Abandon US based comic books and switch to anime and Light Novels)

I'll never forgive them
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Old 2014-08-19, 15:48   Link #1807
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Oh its magic is a really really weak argument!

If you pose a theoretical world scenario & present control laws that define its functioning then you must expect whatever you include in that world to be held to the control laws.
You are completely wrong again. It is NOT magic. It's aura and that's COMPLETELY different (at least if you ask Monty). But seriously look on Boing 747 it's freaking 300 tons of steel flying on sky, which wouldn't work either unless you take in consideration various kind of mechanics involved in it.

Well aerodinamic is pretty common and well know stuff in our world... but how many things you know about aura and dust. How it works, where it come from and what are it's limits.

As one of my favourite authors once claimed: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." and it works other way around as well. If you understand magic (or aura in this case) you can also put it into context of science. If you can't you just have to trust it works if author say so...
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Old 2014-08-19, 15:49   Link #1808
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Oh its magic is a really really weak argument!

If you pose a theoretical world scenario & present control laws that define its functioning then you must expect whatever you include in that world to be held to the control laws.
You're making very little sense. Nothing here contradicts what has gone before, and in fact it make certain things make more sense. Moreover, nothing in this series has stated that they operate on real-world concepts of conservation of energy, or for that matter any other basic laws of physics we're familiar with besides gravity (and even that can be iffy). And they have shown us (show, don't tell) that these kids can violate most laws of physics at will. Magic (so to speak) isn't a weak argument: it's the argument. The show has never given you a reason to believe it conforms to our world's physical laws. You assuming that it does is your failure, not the show's.

And I am astonished you're bringing up the Deathstalker. Leaving aside the distance, the interference by the Nevermore's feathers, and the fact that Yang is not one of the faster characters in the group, she didn't make the rescue because the scene wasn't written for her to do so. That scene was Weiss' dramatic rescue in order to have her and Ruby have a little talk that got them cooperating. That was hardly an appropriate time to reveal Yang's power, since if they had done so, Weiss and Ruby never would have started getting along.

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I have to end any commentary on the possibility of a RetCon; I may be experiencing Residual Trauma from DC's Final Crisis (Which forced me to Abandon US based comic books and switch to anime and Light Novels)
Could do us a favor and keep your anger aimed at the appropriate targets, at least?
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Old 2014-08-19, 16:50   Link #1809
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Forgive me; I didn't expect anyone to mistake my use of “Oh it's magic”, or for it to be misunderstood for anything other than a Metaphor for a weakly constructed Panacea.

In visual media one would expect details to put forward in both audio & visually. I suppose it is unfair of to expect everyone to understand that something like using the recoil of a heavy calibre weapon establishes certain facts about the physics of the said scenario.

Those who are Oblivious (Deliberately or otherwise) can not be expected to appreciate certain attributes that relate to the quality of presented visual media. In the end; it only maters to me if I allow it.
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Old 2014-08-19, 16:57   Link #1810
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In visual media one would expect details to put forward in both audio & visually. I suppose it is unfair of to expect everyone to understand that something like using the recoil of a heavy calibre weapon establishes certain facts about the physics of the said scenario.
Given that no weapon in existence is capable of permitting the weilder to imitate flight the way these girls sometimes do, and any weapon so powerful would seriously injure or kill the person trying to fire it, I believe our points stand.

I am amazed that you can slectively ignore the fantastical elements of this work (which is to say, pretty much EVERYTHING IN THE SERIES) for the sake of trying to argue that it has to run by our laws of physics.
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Old 2014-08-19, 19:00   Link #1811
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I'm just going to be quietly baffled that there's a line where realism and scientifically accurate explanation has to come into play, and that line is after 'some people have animal parts from entirely different creatures growing out of their bodies' and after 'portable railgun that turns into a trident' and after 'soulless monsters' but before this one character's superpower.
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Old 2014-08-19, 19:16   Link #1812
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She could not have possibly made it anyway, that freaking distance between her and Ruby was massive. Even with Weiss glyphing her way to Ruby it took her until the last second, when the stinger was already heading down to stop it with ice. How on earth do you expect Yang, a character whose main strength is power and not speed, to 'activate' her Semblance when it's completely insufficient anyway at that point to save Ruby which she can't, is unbelievable.

And Monty (word of RWBY God) literally posted the 'explanation in a nutshell' in his Twitter, and I'm just explaining what that picture meant. If the creator's words themselves cannot be treated as a fact then I don't know what can. Like seriously, read, the damn, thing before you reply?
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Old 2014-08-19, 22:32   Link #1813
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I have to end any commentary on the possibility of a RetCon; I may be experiencing Residual Trauma from DC's Final Crisis (Which forced me to Abandon US based comic books and switch to anime and Light Novels)
Sad to say while anime and light novels may not go thru retcons as often to their western counterparts, that's because they hardly even have the chance to do so. Few anime will actually devote time and resources to flesh out the mechanics and laws of their world and even then it's mostly done in supplementary material where at best it's supporting evidence instead of being done in-world by throughout the medium. Light novels like A Certain Magical Index and The Irregular at a Magic High School does provide explanations to establish ground rules but I'm unsure how that will be to your liking.

I don't see how RWBY can reasonably satisfy your expectations but it's up to each viewer to decide how to enjoy the show.
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Old 2014-08-20, 00:01   Link #1814
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Hey, quick question to insert here.

When Ruby mentioned Yang's power, she didn't say, "That's her semblance", she said "That's what makes her special". What do you think, any chance of this being something other than whatever a Semblance is and finally giving some backstory on Yang?
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Old 2014-08-20, 00:50   Link #1815
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Well in "RWBY Crew chat" was mentioned her berserk state is her semblance. On wiki there is link to it.
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Old 2014-08-20, 02:33   Link #1816
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Why do people even go into tangent over "how it doesn't make sense that she absorbs the kinetic energy" or something.

"She gets stronger when she takes damage", isn't that enough? It can just as well be related to her emotions.
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Old 2014-08-20, 03:07   Link #1817
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*munches popcorn as she reads through the last 4-5 pages*

I had no idea people were so passionate about this show and all its specifics!
The Con I went to last week had its own RWBY panel complete with the speakers dressed up in RWBY fashion. I'm surprised to see it got such as fast following.
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Old 2014-08-20, 03:09   Link #1818
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Hey, quick question to insert here.

When Ruby mentioned Yang's power, she didn't say, "That's her semblance", she said "That's what makes her special". What do you think, any chance of this being something other than whatever a Semblance is and finally giving some backstory on Yang?
Monty Oum posted this (whatever that means) so it is her Semblance... assuming you can make sense of that picture. Looks like a health gauge and a powerup bar from a fighting game or something?
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Old 2014-08-20, 03:57   Link #1819
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It looks like any game's Power Meter. Probably the type that fills up as you take hits. It depletes as you use specials.
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Old 2014-08-20, 04:33   Link #1820
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Well, it's not like we've seen a Limit Break literally put into an anime that much.
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