2018-11-23, 22:36 | Link #18641 | |
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As for this chapter, I don't think there's much fanfiction/doujinshi material, unless you consider Souma eating some ice lolly, or Erina listening about Asahi's daddy issues to be fiction material.
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2018-11-24, 03:18 | Link #18643 |
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gorgeous new hairstyle from Erina
so Souma lived for several years without his dad? I wonder why he never mention his memory about his mom then.. he should have a lot Please change the villain in this arc.. he is too lame... his background story is far from sob story |
2018-11-24, 03:33 | Link #18644 | |
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So the most likely scenarios in my mind are that either Souma beats Asahi without Asahi ever getting the chance to defeat Erina, or Asahi defeats Erina(likely via some contrivance so she doesn't look too bad), and Souma makes a bet to reverse the affects of Erina losing, and then defeats Asahi. |
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2018-11-24, 05:54 | Link #18645 |
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it's simple. 1. asahi vs erina, >erina wins which means asahi'll out of competition-> soma won't face asahi, story wouldn't take this direction. > asahi wins which means asahi get erina-> soma beating asahi is meaningless-> game over. 2. soma vs asahi > soma wins which means he'll face erina as final boss in final, win blue (get erina lol) > asahi wins which means soma'll out of competition, game over if erina beat soma in finals, nope, as it would defeat the purpose of soma to reclaim his first seat title for real. there's likely that soma would overhear asahi and erina aggrement about wedding and try to prevent it by challenge asahi, but there's problem here? what is erina to soma? does soma have a right to meddle with erina's life? as for asahi, why he should accept a challenge from soma which lost to him? i think the only possible outcome is option 2 when soma wins asahi where asahi can't have power to refuse blue's rule.
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2018-11-24, 07:27 | Link #18646 |
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Asahi already told Souma to come to the highest stage of the tournament if he wants compete against him. That's almost the same as accepting the challenge (kind of).
But why would Souma beating Asahi in that first scenario be meaningless? If Souma or Erina beats Asahi, then Asahi can't marry Erina. That's their whole deal. @Skyterror: The bookmaster didn't know about Souma at all before this Blue competition, so it couldn't have been Erina from the get-go. Or Senzaemon. It could only be either Erina's mom or someone else entirely.
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2018-11-24, 08:56 | Link #18647 | |
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I wish we can see the old soma, where he trained and created countless dishes like he did against mimasaka or his curry dish (can’t remember the competition, but it was his first battle against hayama). Remember where he tried different combinations of spices? When he had to study and train for his matches? That’s what I want to see. Not “Muh diner-dish someway, somehow beat Gordon ramsay’s Best dish, because me MC lol”. Tsukasa’s victories are natural, since we know he’s been training and creating gourmet dishes for a long time. He also has travelled to many places, battle other gourmet chefs and constantly improve his dishes. As for soma, the only thing close to tsukasa’s growth he’s had was his stagiare with Shinomiya, which he apparently forgot - notice how he practically never employed his stagiare skills (French culinary techniques)? I can understand sticking with your origins, your roots. But there will be a time where you have to grow. To develop. Look at Shinomiya. His specialty are legumes, which can be said as common, low-level ingredients. But he used them (legumes) to create gourmet dishes. He used Big Mac’s ingredients and foundations to make gourmet burgers and other gourmet dishes. Whereas soma only improved his Big Mac, but not changing what it essentially is - a Big Mac. Remember your stagiare, soma! Employ what you learned there!!
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2018-11-24, 10:53 | Link #18648 |
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He could be doing what someone else on here said: holding back some of his cards until the later stages of the competition. I hope that's what he's doing, and that one of those cards is the techniques he learned during his stagiaire. That'd be good.
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2018-11-24, 11:53 | Link #18649 | |
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as for erina will face asahi first then win, it mean that soma would never has chance to face asahi as he will out ouf blue. to me, soma face asahi first then erina later makes more sense. or erina should lose before face asahi to cancel the agreement. do you know why asahi said that to soma to catch him to 3rd gate? because he's so confident and belittle that soma would never pass 3rd gate as we know his henchmen which he acknowledge being stronger than elite10 would fail soma at 3rd gate. i even never consider it as challenge though.
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2018-11-24, 15:11 | Link #18650 |
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The problem is that there are other scenarios. Souma learns that Asahi made a bet with Erina that she'd have to marry Asahi if he beat her in BLUE. Asahi wins, Erina is obviously uphappy but is willing to keep her word. Souma sees that she's uphappy and makes a bet with Asahi that if Souma beats him in BLUE, Erina doesn't have to marry Asahi. If Asahi won't agree to the bet out of simple arrogance, Souma can probably bet the right to inherit the Yukihara diner if he loses and Asahi would take that. That'd set up a confrontation between Asahi where Souma has everything riding on the outcome. Erina's freedom from the marriage agreement, and Souma's home and dreams of running Yukiahara in the future. Alternatively, since I don't think we saw the conclusion of the agreement after Asahi told Erina about the BLUE aspect, their bet could be conditioned not just on beating Erina, but on Asahi winning BLUE. In which case, Erina can lose to Asahi or Souma and it doesn't matter as long as Souma keeps Asahi from winning BLUE. Either one of those would create a scenario where it's fine for Erina to lose, so that Souma can save the day. |
2018-11-24, 16:04 | Link #18651 |
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One thing that irritated me about this chapter is Erina. The last time we saw her, she was raging hard because Asahi kidnapped her, and had her tied to a chair in a room full of drugs and killer henchman. We get to this chapter, she's standing next to him while he reads their future honeymoon plans to her?... She's stuttering talking to him and the best thing she could do was give him a half ass tsundere routine that is usually reserve for Soma when he mildly annoys her.
She also says she doesn't get involved with people she doesn't even know? (I mean, he's a dark chef, he kidnapped you, and trying to force you to marry him, what more do you really need to know?) She allows him to tell her his sob story that may or may not be true. Instead of just simply walking away from him (You're not tied to chair still?). After he tells his story, she gets fluster over his quirky personalty and is not sure if he's serious, but thinks she saw his true self while staring at him? Then she still engages him afterward as his continues to plan their honeymoon? And this also after he admitted he wants to eliminate Soma and become him... I know what Tsukuda was trying to do here, but I found this interaction a joke and felt like the situation was getting treated like one too. |
2018-11-24, 17:28 | Link #18652 |
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She still doesn't like him Asahi, though, and I don't think she's completely forgiven him for having kidnapped her. She just can't get rid of him.
@LeftSeven: The way I interpreted it is also as just Asahi having to win BLUE to marry Erina. IIRC, that was also their deal that he put in front of her when he kidnapped her. That if her side wins BLUE, he won't marry her. Also, even if it's that he marries her if she loses to him, Souma can still save the day by making another bet with him where if he (Souma) wins, Asahi will have to back off.
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The whole thing was jarring as fuck. No matter how annoying Asahi was being, it makes no sense for her to give him any attention. The expected course of action would have been to simply act cold toward him and ignore him. The funny thing is this chapter should have got some attention since Erina showed up after a while, but then Tsukuda writes things in a way that is sure to anger most of his Japanese fans (sure, other fans too, but I'm sure most of the money he gets comes from his local fans). Quote:
As for Jouichirou, he's pretty much the same as Souma. Not to mention he has a thing for being away whenever it counts. He's a terrible character, little more than a plot device.
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2018-11-25, 03:29 | Link #18656 |
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The funny thing is that whilst Azami's issue was something that Jou wasn't directly responsible for (Azami's beef wasn't with Jou but with the "system" that caused him to burn out), the issue with Asahi is entirely his fault. There was nothing preventing Jou from adopting him. Unless the circumstances surrounding his wife's death were really messy and he didn't want to involve Asahi in all that mess (and I highly doubt that's the case), then there was nothing stopping him from making Asahi his son. Even if he couldn't immediately do all the paperwork, he could have done so after things settled down, which would have involved a couple of months at worst.
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2018-11-25, 09:03 | Link #18657 |
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Yeah, Souma's motivation really is too bland. I also don't like how he's completely indifferent about BLUE itself.
As for Erina. She still doesn't want to marry Asahi and that's enough for me. There's no NTR here (well, technically, she and Souma aren't really in love yet anyway -- though the fact that her ideal man is Jouichirou who is a lot like Souma, does mean that Souma has more of a chance that Asahi).
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2018-11-26, 04:00 | Link #18659 |
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The weird feeling I have after seeing Asahi's sad story of his.
And then watching Souma's usual positive personality filled with optimism trait of his and his smile. I just don't take this series seriously. I remember way back when Souma punch the wall after his loss against Shinomiya, and Dojima watching that Souma. In these recent chapters, I don't see that side of Souma at all. |
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they completely live in different life and upbringing, soma's mom take care of soma with warm and gentle heart like mother always do. remember when joe said soma really resemble his wife. while asahi had bad mother..bad mother. is easy right? shinomiya arc has the purpose to open soma's eyes that cooking was not limited by yukihira only, but now soma has improved after that. btw, why did you only remember that when there's so many case where soma show his growth, like festival arc, polar dorm demolishing, joe's past, hayama rematch, and the last with saito. it's clearly that people want soma to suffer and see his loss his confident so he can improve..lol Quote:
remember the chat between soma and erina on balcony about their rematch? i think that foreshadowing soma would face erina in blue, erina losing to asahi would means that soma can't show the world that he's fit for first seat while this blue is his chance to beat her for sure. so, i think beating asahi first then erina is like killing two bird with one stone, one to prevent asahi marry erina and other to be first seat for sure by beating erina. Quote:
lol.. i think that winning blue just for asahi to get as much as guest when the day of their wedding. instead, beating erina is priority for asahi for now. what would he bet then? yukihira? nope, asahi want the world and nakiri. become soma? he defeated him once so he's soma now. become jou's son? not that matter anymore. do you remember the chat between soma and erina on balcony about their rematch? i think that's foreshadowing that they would faced each other, erina doesn't have reason to lose if that happend.
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