2016-10-15, 04:47 | Link #18741 | |
Canaan II When?
Join Date: Jan 2016
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But I think Karna is better to fight Divine because you don't need skill CD, just like Euryale - Orion case. |
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2016-10-15, 06:00 | Link #18743 |
大佐
Join Date: Jun 2013
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It really depends on what the situation is. Karna is dependent on the NP on the other hand. With Scathach I could set up a crit situation and wreck just about any divine servant without need of NP. +50% crit damage, +100% against divine and the Quick cards have +50%. When you get a crit, that's pretty gigantic right there. Moreover, comparing NPs it also depends on what your preference is. Taking out a single enemy in one shot or distributing the damage. With my Scathach at NP2 it's 1600% modified by +100% and +50% with the skills. Karna at NP2 has 562.5% against divine enemies.
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2016-10-15, 06:35 | Link #18744 | |
Haven't You Heard?
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: South-east Asia
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Karna came up with NP Charge and NP Seal which IMO is good enough to compensate his lack of damage being AoE NP. Not counting his Bond CE. Shishou may won on damage, being ST NP, but if player roster can't afford good support for her (either NP Charge or star-generator for stable crits) or somehow geared into Buster support, Karna is better than her.
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2016-10-15, 06:39 | Link #18745 | ||
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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2016-10-15, 06:45 | Link #18746 | |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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60 pumpkins for CEs 40 for lore 10 for eliz 60 for all pieces and monuments 170 total If I remember correctly you are assured 60 or so pumpkins from guerilla rewards... this is not counting the potential pumpkin drops they drop at a decent rate. So you need 110 more pumpkins... each pumpkin drop is 3 pcs per stack so with non LB CE you get 4 per stack that means you need pumpkin to drop 28 times. Getting a pumpkin drop 28 times isn't really pushing it. And this is only true if you actually need to buy everything. For someone like me I only bought lore this time... so yeah @Kakurin-san While I agree that Scath is a better option in that fight I'd just like to say that Scath's anti-divine and quick up only lasts for 1 turn and considering that you fight Ozzy multiple times in that battle that means you are going to experience a considerable amount of downtime with Scath if you're facing multiple divine enemies. The same can be said to Karna really but I suppose Karna can actually build his NP fast and can delay NPs during his downtime. But seriously Karna needs his NP interlude =/
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2016-10-15, 06:48 | Link #18747 | |
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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2016-10-15, 07:13 | Link #18749 |
大佐
Join Date: Jun 2013
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His skill may be meant to be spammed, but the cooldown is a turn longer than Scathach's. Moreover it does increase star generation but not star absorption. The downside to Scathach's skill is that it's an 80% chance and not guaranteed.
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2016-10-15, 07:58 | Link #18751 |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Scathach is better vs boss or raid boss simply by virtue of a sure stun. No one except Scathach has a stun that cannot be resisted with MR, which makes her very unique and a top tier servant. She also has a dodge. And the trait multipliers stack for big numbers on her. You do not need to spam NP or worry about rebuilding NP when you can make a one-shot setup.
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2016-10-15, 08:28 | Link #18752 | |
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2016-10-15, 09:54 | Link #18756 |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Tamalancer's charm skill has no demerit to it. And demerit is not a reason for MR bypassing. Her charm bypasses MR because it has no hit rate % in the datamine. This value is needed for debuff success calculation vs MR. Scathach's stun has no value as well and it has been determined by Kyte since her release that her stun cannot be resisted.
The only way I think it can be 'resisted' is when there's a debuff immunity like Sanzou or Ruler Martha's skill (T-shirt icon) which ignores checking MR as well. In one of my first runs against Medb last event, my Phantom ignored her sure charm when he had a T-shirt on him. Scathach's stun bypassing MR should be a well known fact. It's the reason why I was determined to roll for her after Ibaraki event. And previously 'miss' and 'no effect' were lumped together. If enemy is already stunned such as from Waver's NP, it will of course miss (now should get the 'no effect' message instead). |
2016-10-15, 10:12 | Link #18759 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Alright, so finally bought out the shop bar pieces and monuments. Still no CE drops in missions so I'm still plugging away at LB'ing the Halloween CEs.
Seeing as I've got 700K FPs, decided to do some FP rolls to sell for QP. Ended up pulling a second Angry Manju Surprised that they still threw us with the "New Servant" animation despite him being NP2.. guess the boys a bit special, eh? The game even auto-locked him upon summoning. Also surprised that I managed to pull the Halloween 3 star CE in the FP draw as well. |
2016-10-15, 10:16 | Link #18760 |
Shitpost Gremlin
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Formerly Iwakawa base and Chaldea. Now Teyvat, the Astral Express & the Outpost
Age: 44
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Well, even when you push to skip the animation, it WILL still play when you pull a SR or a SSR Servant.
And Scathach is the last of those released that is on my wishlist, other than Ruler Martha. I am not in a hurry for those like Artoria or Gil. |
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