The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[Joe4evr]

Originally Posted by vivify93

...TFEI? Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with the term. I never read Sighs, believe it or not.

It was mentioned in the latest Sighs episode, it's an acronym used by the "Organization" to describe Nagato's kind.

It's not revealed what it stands for.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Why am I so tired.

Spoiler for September the Fifth, Day 4: Hallway- Peering In:

Peering In

IF ItsukoConvo = False AND MissingShoes=True


I didn't know I was so nice. Or, rather, I'd be so nice.

I didn't know that I could be so nice to myself.

Does that make sense?

Although, I wonder if taking shoes that oversized was the right thing to do... I've already tripped five times while trying to follow him, myself, quietly. (For that matter, am I that unobservant?)

Why am I following the boy who is me? Because I want to find out exactly how much is different in this world.

So why am I crouching in front of the Class 1-5 door, with said door open a crack? See my answer to the above question.

It seems as though I sit in the same seat in this world too, and the person sitting behind him... must be his Suzumiya. Pretty sure she's someone Nagato and I ran into yesterday too.

It's difficult to see from this angle, but she seems really good looking. ...Somehow, I don't find that surprising at all.

I hear a voice mention something about the lack of interest in the handball team... so Okabe must be gender-flipped as well. Which isn't surprising either.

All in all, things are pretty much as I thought they would be. Except for the behavior of my own self. I honestly never expected to get these shoes.

...I wonder... could it be because I'm a girl? If so... that is both very awkward and incredibly shallow of him.

---

IF MissingShoes = False AND HijackTrigger < 7


I never realized up until now what a jerk I am. Or, rather, what a jerk I'd be.

I didn't know I could be such a jerk to myself.

Does that make sense?

Okay, maybe I'm sort of in the wrong here, but, still. Not even trying to talk it out wasn't very nice.

After grabbing a random pair of indoor shoes from a second-year locker, I quickly followed myself, him, upstairs to our classroom. He didn't even notice me following him... am I that unobservant?

Why am I following the boy who is me? Because I want to find out exactly how much is different in this world.

So why am I crouching in front of the Class 1-5 door, with said door open a crack? See my answer to the above question.

It seems as though I sit in the same seat in this world too, and the person sitting behind him... must be his Suzumiya. Pretty sure she's someone Nagato and I ran into yesterday too.

It's difficult to see from this angle, but she seems really good looking. ...Somehow, I don't find that surprising at all.

I hear a voice mention something about the lack of interest in the handball team... so Okabe must be gender-flipped as well. Which isn't surprising either.

All in all, things are pretty much as I thought they would be. Except my being a jerk, but hey.

---

IF MissingShoes = False AND HijackTrigger >= 7


Am I that unobservant?

Even though I had doubled back and stalked myself, him, all the way to Class 1-5, he hadn't noticed at all.

Anyway, the question is “why am I crouching in front of the Class 1-5 door, with said door open a crack?” Well, because I want to find out exactly how much is different in this world. The answer appears to be, aside from gender, not too much.

It seems as though I sit in the same seat in this world too, and the person sitting behind him... must be his Suzumiya. Pretty sure she's someone Nagato and I ran into yesterday too.

It's difficult to see from this angle, but she seems really good looking. ...Somehow, I don't find that surprising at all.

I hear a voice mention something about the lack of interest in the handball team... so Okabe must be gender-flipped as well. Which isn't surprising either.

And even Tsuruya-senpai is flipped, judging by the name in the girl's indoor shoes my other self helped me find. I wonder if he even noticed that...

---
If-- Oh crap, I think he noticed me looking at him. Let's just close the door quietly.

Hmm, so, now what to do...


Itsuko: Having fun spying on your animus?

Kyon: Whmmmfffff!


I had the presence of mind to cover my mouth before I actually screamed.

Behind me, a face I never thought I'd be this happy to see had snuck up. (Am I really that unobservant?)

Itsuko is right here, her usual smiling self. Her uniform looks... brand new, as do her rather suspicious indoor shoes. In her left hand, she carries a large shopping bag. But that's not what's important right now.

Kyonko: Oh... oh my god, you're here!


Losing all sense of control, I straighten up, and grab hold of Itsuko in a tight hug.


Itsuko: Hey... what...

Kyonko: Thank god... my cellphone wasn't working, so I was scared that thing Nagato did hadn't worked... I was scared I'd be here all alone...

Itsuko: Don't... worry... now please... if you would release me... you're choking me... also... we should go somewhere quieter...


A few minutes later, we were heading down the corridor, towards Itsuko's “somewhere quieter”.


Itsuko: I am, of course, glad to see you too. We were all so worried about you, after what you said yesterday.

Kyonko: …? What did I say yesterday?


Itsuko stops walking.


Itsuko: ...Why... about how you were afraid you were going insane.

Kyonko: …? What? I don't remember saying anything like that.


What is she even talking about?


Itsuko: …Never mind, then. Nagato-san and Asahina-san are looking forward to seeing you, in any case.

Kyonko: So you've made contact with the two of them?

Itsuko: Yes, I ran into Asahina-san a few minutes ago. He had been sleeping in that park near Nagato-san's place, it seems.


Oh dear. Poor Asahina-senpai.

And Nagato?


Itsuko: Nagato-san actually contacted me last night. He wishes to meet at the top of that stairwell in the Old Shack.

Kyonko: Then why are we heading the other way? And wait, contacted? How? Your cellphone is working?!

Itsuko: No, of course not. He called me on the phone at the place where I was staying... it appears he spent the entire night here at the school, actually.

---

IF MissingShoes = True THEN

Kyonko: So where did you say you were stay-- aaaah!


I trip over my own overlarge shoes again.


Itsuko: My my. Wherever did you get those, anyway?


Grumbling, I pick myself up off the ground.


Itsuko: In any case, we've arrived at our destination

Kyonko: ...The bathroom?


Itsuko holds out that shopping bag she had been carrying.


Itsuko: This contains a brand new uniform in your size, complete with indoor shoes. Can't have you tripping up over those all day, can we?

Kyonko: Ah, thanks! …Where did you get this?

Itsuko: …I would prefer that remain a secret for now. Now go on, go on, get into the bathroom and change.

---

ELSE

Kyonko: So where did you say you were staying?

Itsuko: ...I would prefer that remain a secret for now.


...Huh. Now that's interesting. What is she hiding, exactly?


Itsuko: In any case, we have arrived at our destination.

Kyonko: ...The bathroom?


Itsuko holds out that shopping bag she had been carrying.


Itsuko: This contains a brand new uniform in your size, complete with indoor shoes. I can't have you remain my senpai all day, can I?


What is that supposed to mean?


Kyonko: Thanks! …But, where did you get this?

Itsuko: …I would also prefer that remain a secret for now. Now go on, go on, get into the bathroom and change.

---


Itsuko and her secrets... I'm glad she somehow got this uniform, though. Being in an enclosed space, like this stall, really makes it obvious how much my old uniform stunk.

...It was only after I removed my blouse that I regretted agreeing to change.


You know how it's possible to create specific tan lines by putting some kind of object on your skin while sunbathing? It creates a unique tattoo-like effect. Honestly, I always thought it was kind of cool.

This is the sort of thing that has appeared on my upper arms. But I have no idea how it got there. I haven't been sunbathing since Haruki took us to that island back in July.

Imprinted in the skin of my upper right arm are six Roman characters. Let's see...

K.

Y.

O.

N.

K.

O.

“KYONKO”.

...What on Earth...? Who the hell is “Kyonko”? Is that supposed to be my name? That's not right...


But that isn't the worst of it. The worst of it is what's on my other arm.

It's something that conjures up memories of something that never happened. Something that I don't remember, but do.

Memories I should not have. Memories of a world that no longer exists.

Memories.


Imprinted on my upper left arm, in the same way, is a rather bad drawing. It's a drawing of a little kitty and puppy being eaten by a crocodile.

Gwar.

Ahaha~. Honestly, I considered re-titling this scene "The Crocodile", but that would give it away too early.

The scientific stuff I asked everyone for is next scene. Which I hope to write by the end of tonight. Urrrrgh braindead.

Thank you all for your help.

Nice scene. I pitty Kyon(male) a little now. If he have been nice in the last scene he be the rest of the day with the visitor's shoes hurting his feet. However, this don't matter cause Kyonko found new shoes just after This explai why someone would chose be a jerk last scene, though. Playing by the second timeyu would already know what is going to happen

We are probably going to see that tatoo again right? So I guess it is being a CG here? A fanservice CG?

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Urrrrrrrrgh fuck.

Tired and head hurts. I'll finish this tomorrow. For now:

Spoiler for September the Fifth, Day 4: Old Shack- The Answers (III):

The Answers (III)


Itsuko: Are you feeling alright?


We were heading towards the stairwell in the Old Shack.


Kyonko: …What makes you ask that?

Itsuko: You keep tugging on your left sleeve as though you're trying to hide something.


Ugh. Why do you have to notice every little detail?


Kyonko: I would prefer that remain a secret for now.

Itsuko: Haha, touche. I'll leave you with your secrets, as you will leave me with mine.


That sounds rather like an ultimatum.


Itsuko: You think so? That was not my intention.


...I'm glad we're friends, Itsuko.


Itsuko: Me too.


The place where we were meeting Asahina-senpai and Nagato was that little place at the top of the stairwell that acts as some sort of storage for the art club, a location I've been to a few times. Interestingly, this is the first time I haven't been carried there.


Mitsuuru: Kyon-chan!


The minute Asahina-senpai sees me come up the stairs, he rushes forward as though to hug me... but stops short, and puts his arms behind his back, embarrassed.

Aww. You don't need to feel that way, Asahina-senpai. You can hug me any time.


Mitsuuru: A-Are you feeling better, Kyon-chan?


...Better?


Kyonko: I'm feeling pretty good, yeah.


Aside from the creepy imprints on my arms, yeah, I'm fine.


Mitsuuru: Thank god... I was so worried, with what you said yesterday and all... and since you were all alone last night, I figured...

Kyonko: …? What did I say yesterday?

Mitsuuru: Well, you know about-- er, nothing.


…?

His eyes had darted over to Itsuko as he said that.


Kyonko: …What's up with you two?

Itsuko: I would prefer that remain a secret for now.


Are we going to be firing that back and forth all day?


It was then that the state of the only other person in the stairwell distracted me.

Nagato was standing away from all of us, facing the corner. Honestly, he seemed to have even less presence than usual.


Kyonko: ...Nagato...?

Yuuki: All resources spent maintaining key programs. Noninterference would be appreciated.

Kyonko: ...What?

Mitsuuru: He was like that when I got here, too... he just keeps saying that. I think he's broken.

Itsuko: He mentioned something like that last night, as well. He seems to be having trouble keeping himself active without the support of the TFEI main server.

Kyonko: …

Itsuko: In any case, now that we are, indeed, on the other side, I would like to continue our meeting from yesterday. So, first... why do we not discuss the nature of this universe, now that we have spent more time in it?


Her eyes dart towards Asahina-senpai, who flinches. He was her main opponent yesterday, after all.

Before Itsuko can come out with her latest garbage, I should come up with something.


Kyonko: ...Actually... I have something to point out.

Itsuko: Oh? Please, go on.

Kyonko: The other day, I had been thinking about a theory I once heard... something about how each choice you make spawns an entirely different universe for each choice, leading to an infinite number of universes where each choice is played out....

Itsuko: I assume it was our endless summer that caused this line of thinking.

Kyonko: ...Yeah. What I had thought was the following possibility: What if every single one of the fifteen thousand-odd--

Yuuki: Fifteen thousand four hundred and ninety-eight.

Kyonko: Er, thank you, Nagato. What if every single one of those universes didn't loop back... but continued on instead? I know that's probably impossible, but what if this universe was similar? Like...

Itsuko: ...I'm starting to see where you're going with this. You're talking about Everett's Many-Worlds Interpretation, correct? You're saying that we're in a world where several people we all know just happened to be born the opposite gender.


Thank you for stealing my thunder, Itsuko.


Mitsuuru: Wait, wait. I'm sorry, Kyon-chan, but the Many-Worlds Interpretation isn't even accurate.

Itsuko: Oh, how so?

Mitsuuru: It can't be proven, for one thing.

Itsuko: And? That doesn't mean it's wrong.

Mitsuuru: Oh, come on. You should know better than to use that defense. An absence of proof is not proof of the thing itself. Furthermore, modern theories like Einstein's special relativity are all solved by assuming one universe.

Itsuko: Funny you should bring up something like physics. Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't time travel itself break established laws of physics?

Mitsuuru: I... that's classified, I can't...

Itsuko: Exactly.


Itsuko turns to me.


Itsuko: It's a well-thought-out idea, but it really doesn't explain why we are here... or why the Suzumiya-san in this universe has any sort of power. Fortunately, I have several explanations.


Oh, here we go.

I really, really want to have Itsuko and Mitsuuru fire off blue and red text at each other, but that would be too blatant.

Good scene, though incomplete. I liked the random theory. It was easy to read to me(who don't have english as primary language), so I guess it won't tire most players, if you keep like that when complete the scene.

Mitsuuru was certanly annoying here, it seens people here don't like him too much. He was not wrong, btw, as the theory is, endeed, not accurate. He did fail in logic for think that not being accurate would also mean it is wrong, though.

Oh, well, looking forward Itsuko's theorys.

Oh, almost forgot. Poor Yuuki, it broke.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Urrrrrrrrgh fuck.

Tired and head hurts. I'll finish this tomorrow. For now:

Spoiler for September the Fifth, Day 4: Old Shack- The Answers (III):

The Answers (III)


Itsuko: Are you feeling alright?


We were heading towards the stairwell in the Old Shack.


Kyonko: …What makes you ask that?

Itsuko: You keep tugging on your left sleeve as though you're trying to hide something.


Ugh. Why do you have to notice every little detail?


Kyonko: I would prefer that remain a secret for now.

Itsuko: Haha, touche. I'll leave you with your secrets, as you will leave me with mine.


That sounds rather like an ultimatum.


Itsuko: You think so? That was not my intention.


...I'm glad we're friends, Itsuko.


Itsuko: Me too.


The place where we were meeting Asahina-senpai and Nagato was that little place at the top of the stairwell that acts as some sort of storage for the art club, a location I've been to a few times. Interestingly, this is the first time I haven't been carried there.


Mitsuuru: Kyon-chan!


The minute Asahina-senpai sees me come up the stairs, he rushes forward as though to hug me... but stops short, and puts his arms behind his back, embarrassed.

Aww. You don't need to feel that way, Asahina-senpai. You can hug me any time.


Mitsuuru: A-Are you feeling better, Kyon-chan?


...Better?


Kyonko: I'm feeling pretty good, yeah.


Aside from the creepy imprints on my arms, yeah, I'm fine.


Mitsuuru: Thank god... I was so worried, with what you said yesterday and all... and since you were all alone last night, I figured...

Kyonko: …? What did I say yesterday?

Mitsuuru: Well, you know about-- er, nothing.


…?

His eyes had darted over to Itsuko as he said that.


Kyonko: …What's up with you two?

Itsuko: I would prefer that remain a secret for now.


Are we going to be firing that back and forth all day?


It was then that the state of the only other person in the stairwell distracted me.

Nagato was standing away from all of us, facing the corner. Honestly, he seemed to have even less presence than usual.


Kyonko: ...Nagato...?

Yuuki: All resources spent maintaining key programs. Noninterference would be appreciated.

Kyonko: ...What?

Mitsuuru: He was like that when I got here, too... he just keeps saying that. I think he's broken.

Itsuko: He mentioned something like that last night, as well. He seems to be having trouble keeping himself active without the support of the TFEI main server.

Kyonko: …

Itsuko: In any case, now that we are, indeed, on the other side, I would like to continue our meeting from yesterday. So, first... why do we not discuss the nature of this universe, now that we have spent more time in it?


Her eyes dart towards Asahina-senpai, who flinches. He was her main opponent yesterday, after all.

Before Itsuko can come out with her latest garbage, I should come up with something.


Kyonko: ...Actually... I have something to point out.

Itsuko: Oh? Please, go on.

Kyonko: The other day, I had been thinking about a theory I once heard... something about how each choice you make spawns an entirely different universe for each choice, leading to an infinite number of universes where each choice is played out....

Itsuko: I assume it was our endless summer that caused this line of thinking.

Kyonko: ...Yeah. What I had thought was the following possibility: What if every single one of the fifteen thousand-odd--

Yuuki: Fifteen thousand four hundred and ninety-eight.

Kyonko: Er, thank you, Nagato. What if every single one of those universes didn't loop back... but continued on instead? I know that's probably impossible, but what if this universe was similar? Like...

Itsuko: ...I'm starting to see where you're going with this. You're talking about Everett's Many-Worlds Interpretation, correct? You're saying that we're in a world where several people we all know just happened to be born the opposite gender.


Thank you for stealing my thunder, Itsuko.


Mitsuuru: Wait, wait. I'm sorry, Kyon-chan, but the Many-Worlds Interpretation isn't even accurate.

Itsuko: Oh, how so?

Mitsuuru: It can't be proven, for one thing.

Itsuko: And? That doesn't mean it's wrong.

Mitsuuru: Oh, come on. You should know better than to use that defense. An absence of proof is not proof of the thing itself. Furthermore, modern theories like Einstein's special relativity are all solved by assuming one universe.

Itsuko: Funny you should bring up something like physics. Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't time travel itself break established laws of physics?

Mitsuuru: I... that's classified, I can't...

Itsuko: Exactly.


Itsuko turns to me.


Itsuko: It's a well-thought-out idea, but it really doesn't explain why we are here... or why the Suzumiya-san in this universe has any sort of power. Fortunately, I have several explanations.


Oh, here we go.

I really, really want to have Itsuko and Mitsuuru fire off blue and red text at each other, but that would be too blatant.

Kyonko actually seems rather sweet here. That's nice to read.

The back-and-forth between Itsuko and Mitsuuru was pretty well-handled. I was more impressed by Kyonko/Itsuko's side of the argument, but that's probably how it should be, particularly given how Mitsuuru was hampered by the "it's classified" problem that he keeps running into.

[CanadaAotS]

Broken Yuuki... Prime example of one of the downsides to remote computing, you're screwed if you lose your internet connection haha.

Assuming I'm right about what's wrong with him.

[Nanao-kun]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Urrrrrrrrgh fuck.

Tired and head hurts. I'll finish this tomorrow. For now:

Spoiler for September the Fifth, Day 4: Old Shack- The Answers (III):

The Answers (III)


Itsuko: Are you feeling alright?


We were heading towards the stairwell in the Old Shack.


Kyonko: …What makes you ask that?

Itsuko: You keep tugging on your left sleeve as though you're trying to hide something.


Ugh. Why do you have to notice every little detail?


Kyonko: I would prefer that remain a secret for now.

Itsuko: Haha, touche. I'll leave you with your secrets, as you will leave me with mine.


That sounds rather like an ultimatum.


Itsuko: You think so? That was not my intention.


...I'm glad we're friends, Itsuko.


Itsuko: Me too.


The place where we were meeting Asahina-senpai and Nagato was that little place at the top of the stairwell that acts as some sort of storage for the art club, a location I've been to a few times. Interestingly, this is the first time I haven't been carried there.


Mitsuuru: Kyon-chan!


The minute Asahina-senpai sees me come up the stairs, he rushes forward as though to hug me... but stops short, and puts his arms behind his back, embarrassed.

Aww. You don't need to feel that way, Asahina-senpai. You can hug me any time.


Mitsuuru: A-Are you feeling better, Kyon-chan?


...Better?


Kyonko: I'm feeling pretty good, yeah.


Aside from the creepy imprints on my arms, yeah, I'm fine.


Mitsuuru: Thank god... I was so worried, with what you said yesterday and all... and since you were all alone last night, I figured...

Kyonko: …? What did I say yesterday?

Mitsuuru: Well, you know about-- er, nothing.


…?

His eyes had darted over to Itsuko as he said that.


Kyonko: …What's up with you two?

Itsuko: I would prefer that remain a secret for now.


Are we going to be firing that back and forth all day?


It was then that the state of the only other person in the stairwell distracted me.

Nagato was standing away from all of us, facing the corner. Honestly, he seemed to have even less presence than usual.


Kyonko: ...Nagato...?

Yuuki: All resources spent maintaining key programs. Noninterference would be appreciated.

Kyonko: ...What?

Mitsuuru: He was like that when I got here, too... he just keeps saying that. I think he's broken.

Itsuko: He mentioned something like that last night, as well. He seems to be having trouble keeping himself active without the support of the TFEI main server.

Kyonko: …

Itsuko: In any case, now that we are, indeed, on the other side, I would like to continue our meeting from yesterday. So, first... why do we not discuss the nature of this universe, now that we have spent more time in it?


Her eyes dart towards Asahina-senpai, who flinches. He was her main opponent yesterday, after all.

Before Itsuko can come out with her latest garbage, I should come up with something.


Kyonko: ...Actually... I have something to point out.

Itsuko: Oh? Please, go on.

Kyonko: The other day, I had been thinking about a theory I once heard... something about how each choice you make spawns an entirely different universe for each choice, leading to an infinite number of universes where each choice is played out....

Itsuko: I assume it was our endless summer that caused this line of thinking.

Kyonko: ...Yeah. What I had thought was the following possibility: What if every single one of the fifteen thousand-odd--

Yuuki: Fifteen thousand four hundred and ninety-eight.

Kyonko: Er, thank you, Nagato. What if every single one of those universes didn't loop back... but continued on instead? I know that's probably impossible, but what if this universe was similar? Like...

Itsuko: ...I'm starting to see where you're going with this. You're talking about Everett's Many-Worlds Interpretation, correct? You're saying that we're in a world where several people we all know just happened to be born the opposite gender.


Thank you for stealing my thunder, Itsuko.


Mitsuuru: Wait, wait. I'm sorry, Kyon-chan, but the Many-Worlds Interpretation isn't even accurate.

Itsuko: Oh, how so?

Mitsuuru: It can't be proven, for one thing.

Itsuko: And? That doesn't mean it's wrong.

Mitsuuru: Oh, come on. You should know better than to use that defense. An absence of proof is not proof of the thing itself. Furthermore, modern theories like Einstein's special relativity are all solved by assuming one universe.

Itsuko: Funny you should bring up something like physics. Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't time travel itself break established laws of physics?

Mitsuuru: I... that's classified, I can't...

Itsuko: Exactly.


Itsuko turns to me.


Itsuko: It's a well-thought-out idea, but it really doesn't explain why we are here... or why the Suzumiya-san in this universe has any sort of power. Fortunately, I have several explanations.


Oh, here we go.

I really, really want to have Itsuko and Mitsuuru fire off blue and red text at each other, but that would be too blatant.

Itsuko: Funny you should bring up something like physics. Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't time travel itself break established laws of physics?

Hm? I could have sworn time travel didn't break the laws of physics... or has this summer been too long?

[Jintor]

Spoiler for September the Fourth, Day 3, Universe 1: School Gate- Bells are Ringing:

Bells are Ringing


Kyon: "They... left the school..."


"Nagato and I are at the school gates, being stared at by a couple of groups of girls under a tree. Hey, nothing to look at here, go back to gossiping."

"As an aside, I'm exhausted."


Kyon: "Now... what do... we do... Nagato...?"

Yuki: "…..."


"...Something seems a little off about her."

"At that moment, the bell rang, signaling the end of lunch."

"Well, I suppose we should..."


[DECISION POINT HERE]

1)"Give up because I'm tired."
2)"Give up because the bell just rang."
3)"Give up because Nagato seems tired."


Lazy Way Out


Kyon: "Hey... Nagato... I'm tired. Let's just... go back."

Yuki: "…"


"Without any kind of response, Nagato turns around starts walking back to the school."

"I follow her, since I want to ask about what the hell is going on."


Kyon: "...So, uh... what, exactly... was that?"

Yuki: "…"

Kyon: "...Why did we chase him on foot when he was jumping straight through windows?"

Yuki: "…"

Kyon: "...Are you okay, Nagato?"

Yuki: "...Yes."

Kyon: "Should I... walk you to class...?"

Yuki: "...No need."


"We part at the doorway."

"…"

"What a strange day... I should get to class before I have to hear-"


Haruhi: "Kyon, you're late!"


"...that."


Observant Way Out

Kyon: "Hey, Nagato... Let's stop. It's... time for... class."

Yuki: "…"


"She nods, and turns around, and heads back to the school building."

"I follow her, since I want to ask about what the hell is going on."


Kyon: "So, uh, what, exactly, was that?"

Yuki: "…Unknown."

Kyon: "...That so?"


"I find it kind of hard to believe Nagato of all people doesn't know exactly who or what we were chasing, but since when has Nagato ever lied to me?"


Kyon: "…But, uh why did we chase him on foot when he was jumping straight through windows?"

Yuki: "Draws attention."

Kyon: "...You have a point..."


"We don't want that to get back to Haruhi, after all."

"Oh god, she's going to hard to deal with when she hears about all this."

"We end up separating at the front door. I guess I should hurry, since I don't want to hear-"


Haruhi: "Kyon, you're late!"


"Again..."


Concerned Way Out


Kyon: "Hey, Nagato... You're... tired of this, right...? Let's just... go back."

Yuki: "…I am fine."


"Even as she says that, Nagato turns around and heads back towards the school building."

"I follow her, since I want to ask about what the hell is going on."


Kyon: "So, uh, what, exactly, was that?"

Yuki: "…"

Kyon: "...Nagato?"

Yuki: "…Humanoid Interface?"


"…That would explain the jumping through windows, then."


Kyon: "Another one... like Asakura? Where did... he come from, anyway?"


"Nagato stops dead."


Yuki: "Unknown."

Kyon: "...That so?"


"Well, if Nagato says she doesn't know, she doesn't know. Still, that's strange. Nagato should know about her own people..."


Kyon: "If he was another interface, why were we following him on foot? Why didn't you follow him through the windows and walls?"

Yuki: "Draws attention."

Kyon: "...You have a point."


"We don't want that to get back to Haruhi, after all."

"Oh god, she's going to hard to deal with when she hears about all this."


Kyon: "You sure you're alright, Nagato?"

Yuki: "…"


"She nods, just like always. But..."


Yuki: "...Thank you."


"Is the last thing she says to me."

"...Another Humanoid Interface... huh? Wonder where he is now."

"We end up separating at the front door. I guess I should hurry, since I don't want to hear-"


Haruhi: "Kyon, you're late!"


"Again..."

[dragon4dudes]

Originally Posted by HikariNiwa

Itsuko: Funny you should bring up something like physics. Forgive my ignorance, but doesn't time travel itself break established laws of physics?

Hm? I could have sworn time travel didn't break the laws of physics... or has this summer been too long?

I guess it depends on the interpretation of time travel and how it is done. If you assume time travel requires exceeding the speed of light, then it break's Einstein's theory, but if you assume some other method, then it may not. Fully depends on your interpretation of time travel.

[Jintor]

In any case, since Koizumi can (like us) only speculate as to how Time-Travel works, that line is internally consistent.

[otai]

Look up time travel on the Wiki. Time travel is only possible as a thought experiment. Relativity provides us with examples where time doesn't flow right, but you have to violate other laws of nature to actually exploit it; such as having a NEGATIVE amount of energy.

Also I would like to issue a correction to the SF content I suggested to the writeup. It should be Einstein's General relativity that should be referenced, not Special Relativity. Special Relativity, despite being called "special", is the boring one; and General Relativity, is the cool one that speculates all the time travel shennanigans. Honestly, Special Relativity should have been called Specific Relativity, as the theory is only applied to the observations of motion. (this is probably thanks to incompetent translation of German to English, which I think all of us here are familliar with )

The distruption and inconvenience resulting from this is deeply regretted.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

In all fairness, flying around as a big red(or in Itsuko's case, blue) orb doesn't exactly follow the laws of physics, either.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by otai

Look up time travel on the Wiki. Time travel is only possible as a thought experiment. Relativity provides us with examples where time doesn't flow right, but you have to violate other laws of nature to actually exploit it; such as having a NEGATIVE amount of energy.

Also I would like to issue a correction to the SF content I suggested to the writeup. It should be Einstein's General relativity that should be referenced, not Special Relativity. Special Relativity, despite being called "special", is the boring one; and General Relativity, is the cool one that speculates all the time travel shennanigans. Honestly, Special Relativity should have been called Specific Relativity, as the theory is only applied to the observations of motion. (this is probably thanks to incompetent translation of German to English, which I think all of us here are familliar with )

The distruption and inconvenience resulting from this is deeply regretted.

Even in reality, this isn't necessarily true.

I remember learning in Chemistry/Physics, that we know very little about what goes on within a black hole. The laws of physics might go entirely out the window within a black hole.

[Joe4evr]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

The laws of physics might go entirely out the window within a black hole.

Given that not even light is able to escape a black hole, I'd say it's pretty certain.

[scify]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

Even in reality, this isn't necessarily true.

I remember learning in Chemistry/Physics, that we know very little about what goes on within a black hole. The laws of physics might go entirely out the window within a black hole.

Actually, from what I remember, we know absolutely nothing about what goes on inside of a black hole, except that, in some cases, it produces gamma-rays that come shooting out of them (assuming, of course, that the Active Galactic Nuclei that we observe are in fact black holes. We're not sure, given that we can't actually see them).

Add that to the fact that there isn't a unified theory that successfully unites macro physics (Galaxy and Universe scale physics) with micro physics (sub-atomic scale physics) and we have a whole other range of problems.

This is why there are so many theories about time travel and black holes, actually--most of them (that aren't just under-researched Hollywood plot devices, at least) could be feasibly correct under a particular physics theory.

Finally, a point which might make the rest of this post sorta pointless storywise: The Asahina's don't have a perfect understanding of time travel, as has been noted a couple of times in the VN. Kyon picks up on this in BLR (moreso in the anime, IMO) when he points out that, given Mikuru's earlier explanation of time travel, his actions in the past didn't make very much sense.

[Binjovi]

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[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Originally Posted by Binjovi

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... Getting a bit of an "Itsuki" vibe from the face and bangs... I'm not really much help, am I?

[vivify93]

Originally Posted by Binjovi

<insert picture of awesomeness>

Hot!

I don't get much of an Itsuki vibe m'self. It's there, but I always fancied Haruki to be the unholy union of Itsuki and Kyon's looks, Haruhi's mannerisms, and a bunch of tropes. Which makes him awesomepants.

The best part of him? His hair. I swear, Binjovi, that hair is amazing. It's the perfect blend of Haruki and Haruhi.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Originally Posted by vivify93

unholy union of Itsuki and Kyon

Only the resident yaoi fanboy of the group could get away with saying this...




Taking things out of context is FUN!

[vivify93]

Well, I do loathe me some Itsukyon-MM.

srsly, worst pairing in any fandom ever. Even as a CRACK pairing.

Itsukyon-FF, now that is hot.

...And yes, this just goes to show you how much I hate the Itsukyon-MM pairing.

Now, as I've ranted many times in the past, Harukyon (for any gender combination) is a great pairing.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

... I dislike most pairings involving Kyon... unless it's with Haruhi. She's pretty much the only person in the series that can dish out as much as him. The other brigade members(male and female) have enough to worry about without Kyon screwing around, Haruki would probably kill him... and Kyonko has suffered more than enough as it is.

[Heatth]

Originally Posted by Binjovi

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Awesome work. For layman eyes, like mines, the art is flawless. I also loved his expression. It is close to a 'neutral face', yet he still has a mischievous smile.

I just find kinda weird this bangs(is that the word? The long part of his haird overing his hairband and ears). I believe most fanart of him don't have it right? But then, intrigued with vivify's post, I looked at Haruhi and noticed she also has then. Interesting touch.

PP:

Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

... I dislike most pairings involving Kyon... unless it's with Haruhi. She's pretty much the only person in the series that can dish out as much as him. The other brigade members(male and female) have enough to worry about without Kyon screwing around, Haruki would probably kill him... and Kyonko has suffered more than enough as it is.

You will hate me if I say he makes a good pair with Yuki right?

Thinking on that now, I don't really think Yuuki and Kyonko make a good pair... Probably because I haven't read a genderbend Disappearance yet.