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Ryuga · 2014-09-20, 13:41

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

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I almost want to say it might've grazed the side of his head, so it was non-fatal. His track record for headshots isn't very good, as Saazbaum pointed out lol. Or maybe Slaine took Saazbaum's tip to heart and actually got Inaho in the dome.

Kazu-kun · 2014-09-20, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Elazul

It was disturbing to see how easily Slaine can pull the trigger.

It's not easy. He always freaks out at first.

Sixth · 2014-09-20, 13:43

Frankly speaking. I don't think the show will be the same without Inaho in Season 2. What can Terran do against Mar without Inaho's guidance?

Let's assumed that Mar conquered the Earth, and then? I don't see much story can be tell from this perspective. Remaining terrans that hiding underground are plotting to take back their planet from MAR? Good luck.

I don't see how Slaine going to fight for Terran side. Slaine will help Martians to butcher the Terran further.

Myssa Rei · 2014-09-20, 13:43

Ryuuga: Added frames of the princess getting shot. Looks like a graze to me.

Irenesharda · 2014-09-20, 13:45

I am literally still shaking from that ending...I...I'm trying to calm down....

Okay, so, what the heck did I just watch? First Dioscuria was OP as all heck, but of course it had all the powers of all the other mechs that came before it. Of course that gives Inaho a jump on it since he knows exactly how to beat it. It becomes a fight to see how they can get the princess to the center of the castle first.

Slaine arrives in his skycarrier and is beginning to have conflicts as he's constantly having to defend himself against Terrans, rather than against Martians. Saazbaum is a great villain even though he pretty much falls apart against Inaho, yet Inaho still has a struggle. Slaine finds himself inside of Tharsis, and oddly enough, is able to activate it. Tharsis seems to have speed abilities so far as we can see. Slaine hears Saazbaum having trouble and comes to his rescue since Saazbaum saved his life. Slaine saves Saazbaum at the last minute right as Asseylum shuts down the system.

However, because Slaine saves Saazbaum, it gives the count the chance to finally kill Asseylum. Slaine overcome with the fact he's the one who allowed this to happen, turns his gun on Saazbaum and attempts to shoot him to death. Inaho, who has been injured, crawls over to the dead princess and we get the "flashbacks of death" as he shows his love for the princess. However, Slaine will not allow it. This is the first time Orange and the Bat have ever met face to face. Slaine will not allow Slaine to touch the princess' body. Inaho realizes that it's "Bat" that he faces and in a very similar to their situation from their first meeting, they draw their guns on each other. However, this time, it's Slaine who not only fires first, but this time, finds his target and kills Inaho.

So, wow, are you telling me that after all of our supposing that it was Yuki and others who had the largest death flags, they subverted all that and made it Inaho and Asseylum, the two characters who everyone knew weren't going to die, be the ones that were killed?!

Sasuga, Aldnoah Zero. You got me...

So, what happens next? I have a feeling next season will be a timeskip and we might be going to Vers more with what's going on. We've lost 2/3 of our main characters, so I'm guessing Slaine and others will pull up the slack. We have to find out why he has Aldnoah rights and if it had something to do with his father or some relation he has to the royal family. I'm guessing that pendent meant nothing since it never came into play at all. It was just a symbol of the princess' hopes and her life.

Slaine is now probably going to try to prevent any of this from happening again, and is going to take down the system that brought about people like Saazbaum. He's going to end the war for Asseylum, using his Aldnoah powers and his connection to the Vers people.

I can't wait till next season, and I'll admit, Aldnoah certainly surprised me with that ending....

Great season finale.

ImperialKnight · 2014-09-20, 13:48

OK I got to ask.

Whose side is slaine on? Why did he bother saving sazzabaum who wanted the princess dead? He pretty much screwed everybody.

Myssa Rei · 2014-09-20, 13:48

You guys are forgetting the best frame of the episode:

Cements Slaine being the show's whipping boy.

ImperialKNight: He kind of sort of sided with the Martians at the spur of the moment. It bit him in the ass, as you could see.

Tranhieu · 2014-09-20, 13:51

What if Slaine escapes the castle at the end of the episode WITH Inaho? I mean, anything is possible in this show

I don't know what to say about the finale, it's shocking in a weird way, people got shot left and right for no reason yet I didn't feel anything at all!

ID555 · 2014-09-20, 13:52

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Originally Posted by ImperialKnight

OK I got to ask.

Whose side is slaine on? Why did he bother saving sazzabaum who wanted the princess dead? He pretty much screwed everybody.

Sazzazabaum made Slaine dance like a puppet on strings.

Kazu-kun · 2014-09-20, 13:52

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Originally Posted by Tranhieu

I didn't feel anything at all!

It's not surprising. These characters are barely more than drawings with names.

coded321 · 2014-09-20, 13:56

If you think about it, what happened was an excellent way for the show to keep viewers dedicated. Because of what happened, we are all going to wait till the second season to confirm that inaho and seylum are actually dead. Personally, i dont think they actually killed inaho, even if the frame by frame does not show any ambiguity. I dont know about you guys, but i know no anime/manga/light novel were the mc was permanently killed half way thru the series. To do so would be a guaranteed way to lose viewers or readers, which the writers dont want, because no viewers means no money.

Kazu-kun · 2014-09-20, 13:57

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Originally Posted by coded321

To do so would be a guaranteed way to lose viewers or readers, which the writers dont want, because no viewers means no money.

Perhaps that wouldn't happen in this cause, since Inaho wasn't all that popular in Japan to begin with. Slaine is the most popular character by far there.

Thess · 2014-09-20, 13:58

I'm so incoherent of how much I loved this episode!

I was bracing myself for a weak finale, but I got what I wanted at last. It's too bad Rayet and Slaine never met though.

Sixth · 2014-09-20, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Perhaps that wouldn't happen in this cause, since Inaho wasn't all that popular in Japan to begin with. Slaine is the most popular character by far there.

How can you be so sure that Slaine's popularity wont't get plummeted after this episode?

Zoks · 2014-09-20, 13:59

I had a feeling Inaho wasn't going to make it through this episode. I hate that he's dead, not because I like him (which I do) but because I'm worried where the show will go from here. Most of its appeal to me was Inaho's tactics to beat the superior brawn of the Martians. Now I'm worried it'll just become another Mech vs. Mech show.

Speaking of tactics, Inaho apparently has read Clausewitz's On War. That explanation he gave to Asseylum about war being negotiation by another means is straight out of Clausewitz. I wonder if that's a required reading for high school kids in this series.

Key Board · 2014-09-20, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

You guys are forgetting the best frame of the episode:

Cements Slaine being the show's whipping boy.

ImperialKNight: He kind of sort of sided with the Martians at the spur of the moment. It bit him in the ass, as you could see.

"brain problems"

Fjoergyn · 2014-09-20, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Thess

I'm so incoherent of how much I loved this episode!

I was bracing myself for a weak finale, but I got what I wanted at last. It's too bad Rayet and Slaine never met though.

She will probably get revived by aldnoah magic. more curious about how inaho is going to survive. That shot seems fatal

Kazu-kun · 2014-09-20, 14:01

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Originally Posted by noobita

How can you be so sure that Slaine's popularity wont't get plummeted after this episode?

Because the fans in Japan don't seem to like Inaho and the princess all that much. So why would they care if Slaine killed him?

coded321 · 2014-09-20, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Perhaps that wouldn't happen in this cause, since Inaho wasn't all that popular in Japan to begin with. Slaine is the most popular character by far there.

I would like to think that, because of this episode, support would go to inaho. I can't imagine that slaine would still be popular now, considering how he f*ked everything up there at the end. Why was slaine considered to be more popular than inaho anyway?

Tranhieu · 2014-09-20, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

It's not surprising. These characters are barely more than drawings with names.

And that's the problem I have with this show. People are supposed to feel something when the protagonists get killed, yet from what I could gather from this thread everyone just went wtf and that's it.

And to join in the fun, I would say Inaho will make it next season. The frame where he was lying in his blood showed that it wasn't his head that got shot, might be somewhere on the back judging from where his blood leaking out.

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2014-09-20, 13:43	Link #124
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Ryuuga: Added frames of the princess getting shot. Looks like a graze to me. __________________

2014-09-20, 13:45	Link #125
Irenesharda Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago	I am literally still shaking from that ending...I...I'm trying to calm down.... Okay, so, what the heck did I just watch? First Dioscuria was OP as all heck, but of course it had all the powers of all the other mechs that came before it. Of course that gives Inaho a jump on it since he knows exactly how to beat it. It becomes a fight to see how they can get the princess to the center of the castle first. Slaine arrives in his skycarrier and is beginning to have conflicts as he's constantly having to defend himself against Terrans, rather than against Martians. Saazbaum is a great villain even though he pretty much falls apart against Inaho, yet Inaho still has a struggle. Slaine finds himself inside of Tharsis, and oddly enough, is able to activate it. Tharsis seems to have speed abilities so far as we can see. Slaine hears Saazbaum having trouble and comes to his rescue since Saazbaum saved his life. Slaine saves Saazbaum at the last minute right as Asseylum shuts down the system. However, because Slaine saves Saazbaum, it gives the count the chance to finally kill Asseylum. Slaine overcome with the fact he's the one who allowed this to happen, turns his gun on Saazbaum and attempts to shoot him to death. Inaho, who has been injured, crawls over to the dead princess and we get the "flashbacks of death" as he shows his love for the princess. However, Slaine will not allow it. This is the first time Orange and the Bat have ever met face to face. Slaine will not allow Slaine to touch the princess' body. Inaho realizes that it's "Bat" that he faces and in a very similar to their situation from their first meeting, they draw their guns on each other. However, this time, it's Slaine who not only fires first, but this time, finds his target and kills Inaho. So, wow, are you telling me that after all of our supposing that it was Yuki and others who had the largest death flags, they subverted all that and made it Inaho and Asseylum, the two characters who everyone knew weren't going to die, be the ones that were killed?! Sasuga, Aldnoah Zero. You got me... So, what happens next? I have a feeling next season will be a timeskip and we might be going to Vers more with what's going on. We've lost 2/3 of our main characters, so I'm guessing Slaine and others will pull up the slack. We have to find out why he has Aldnoah rights and if it had something to do with his father or some relation he has to the royal family. I'm guessing that pendent meant nothing since it never came into play at all. It was just a symbol of the princess' hopes and her life. Slaine is now probably going to try to prevent any of this from happening again, and is going to take down the system that brought about people like Saazbaum. He's going to end the war for Asseylum, using his Aldnoah powers and his connection to the Vers people. I can't wait till next season, and I'll admit, Aldnoah certainly surprised me with that ending.... Great season finale. __________________ "Someone who cannot forgive lies or secrets, will never trust another." - Major Kyosuke Hyobu

2014-09-20, 13:48	Link #127
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	You guys are forgetting the best frame of the episode: Cements Slaine being the show's whipping boy. ImperialKNight: He kind of sort of sided with the Martians at the spur of the moment. It bit him in the ass, as you could see. __________________

2014-09-20, 13:58	Link #133
Thess Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	I'm so incoherent of how much I loved this episode! I was bracing myself for a weak finale, but I got what I wanted at last. It's too bad Rayet and Slaine never met though. __________________ *"Who* would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"**

2014-09-20, 13:43	Link #123
Sixth Hu Tao Join Date: Oct 2006	Frankly speaking. I don't think the show will be the same without Inaho in Season 2. What can Terran do against Mar without Inaho's guidance? Let's assumed that Mar conquered the Earth, and then? I don't see much story can be tell from this perspective. Remaining terrans that hiding underground are plotting to take back their planet from MAR? Good luck. I don't see how Slaine going to fight for Terran side. Slaine will help Martians to butcher the Terran further.

2014-09-20, 13:48	Link #126
ImperialKnight Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007	OK I got to ask. Whose side is slaine on? Why did he bother saving sazzabaum who wanted the princess dead? He pretty much screwed everybody.

2014-09-20, 13:51	Link #128
Tranhieu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013	What if Slaine escapes the castle at the end of the episode WITH Inaho? I mean, anything is possible in this show I don't know what to say about the finale, it's shocking in a weird way, people got shot left and right for no reason yet I didn't feel anything at all!

2014-09-20, 13:56	Link #131
coded321 He Who Games Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: the virtual world	If you think about it, what happened was an excellent way for the show to keep viewers dedicated. Because of what happened, we are all going to wait till the second season to confirm that inaho and seylum are actually dead. Personally, i dont think they actually killed inaho, even if the frame by frame does not show any ambiguity. I dont know about you guys, but i know no anime/manga/light novel were the mc was permanently killed half way thru the series. To do so would be a guaranteed way to lose viewers or readers, which the writers dont want, because no viewers means no money.

2014-09-20, 13:59	Link #135
Zoks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	I had a feeling Inaho wasn't going to make it through this episode. I hate that he's dead, not because I like him (which I do) but because I'm worried where the show will go from here. Most of its appeal to me was Inaho's tactics to beat the superior brawn of the Martians. Now I'm worried it'll just become another Mech vs. Mech show. Speaking of tactics, Inaho apparently has read Clausewitz's On War. That explanation he gave to Asseylum about war being negotiation by another means is straight out of Clausewitz. I wonder if that's a required reading for high school kids in this series.