2012-08-18, 12:07 | Link #242 | |
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General purpose operating systems, especially if a software vendor is going to provide basically only "one code branch" should be a Swiss Army Knife. It should be configurable and it shouldn't force only one kind of "desktop view" though a style may permeate for branding blah blah.
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2012-08-18, 12:08 | Link #243 | ||
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2012-08-18, 16:47 | Link #244 |
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Businesses are slow to adopt new practices. Let's not pretend that new releases of software have any immediate impact on Microsoft's business side of things, especially when MS seems comitted to pushing out OS releases every couple years now.
I'm sure when businesses finally feel like they have no choice but to upgrade from Windows XP, there'll be an OS waiting for them. Whether that's 9, 15, Server 32, or whatever. To pretend that Windows 8 was going to be it, regardless of what it looked/felt/operated like, is naive. Heck, we've got servers still running NT, and my employer employs tens of thousands of employees. I'm sure there are some unique snowflakes out there who's businesses keep at the cutting edge, but that's definitely not true for most. On a personal side, I agree that the new Start menu is infinitely superior to the old, and that the grousing is similar to the grousing you hear every single time the UI has been changed, starting from the very first introduction of a graphical UI at all. Heck, there was a time when I was a young and overly emotional where I vowed to be command line forever, so it's not like I'm innocent of overemotional faux outrage. My only real issue with the Metro UI is that it doesn't do a better job of meshing touch and mouse/keyboard interaction. It should be a seamless experience moving between the two ways of interacting with the UI, and right now, it isn't. A very seemingly obvious first would be to let the mouse actually act identical to one's finger(s) on a touchscreen. ie: Press your left mouse button down, and drag/swipe should do the exact same thing as pressing your finger down and swiping. Right now, it doesn't, and thus scrolling with your mouse isn't as refined as scrolling on a touchscreen with your finger. As the Metro UI seems to encourage scrollable interfaces, I'm kind of surprised this wasn't resolved early on. It's possible it's fully capable of doing just that when a competent dev writes an app for Metro, but I've yet to see an app that does yet, and like any app store, the Windows store is 99% filled with garbage apps coded without an ounce of heart or effort. I do really like Cocktail Flow, and a music player plugin would make it super sweet. An app that I'd love to see for those aspiring app writers out there? A live tile clock. It's possible one exists, but I have no patience for wading through app stores. Again, I reference my comment about how every single app store on the planet is 99% useless junk. That said, it's also obvious that due to the Metro UI, Windows 8 is going to be a transitional OS, and that Windows 9 will likely be a more refined experience at seamlessly gaping the mouse/keyboard-touch experience.
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2012-08-18, 17:04 | Link #245 | |
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Now, while I have gotten used to it after nearly a year of using Windows 8, it's still not the best use of a mouse in my opinion. As far as scrolling is concerned, I prefer to scroll with the scroll wheel, whether horizontally or vertically. I personally like that Windows 8, for the most part, uses different interactions between mouse and touch. |
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2012-08-18, 22:54 | Link #248 | |
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I've had and used a dual-screen setup (and went to a tri-screen setup in my research lab) for years now, but I never got the impression that it was really a mainstream thing. My favorite multi-monitor software was Ultramon, which I used with Windows XP. I doubt we'll see anything like that baked into an operating system as long as single-monitor systems are the majority standard.
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2012-08-19, 10:17 | Link #249 | ||||
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Despite the benefits of multiple monitor setups, less than 15% of desktops have more than 1 monitor hooked up, and less than 5% of laptops are ever hooked up to external monitors. The survey is skewed towards high end, so the real numbers are actually even lower. [citation] |
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2012-08-19, 11:30 | Link #250 |
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So 1 in 10 users has at least dual monitors... and that's not significant for it "not to suck so bad"?
It's not really even such a big deal: one option here on how edges are interpreted, some option for desktop backgrounds, some key for uh, I don't know, lock you in a screen or something? FFS a monkey could program it for peanuts.
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2012-08-19, 12:13 | Link #251 | |
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Actually the number of traders who use multi-screen setups are increasing, especially those dealing in futures. And as traders become more electronic, no doubt in the future trading on two screens or more will be a norm.
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2012-08-19, 13:01 | Link #252 |
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Okay, I will change my terminology. Please replace "normal people" with "plebeians who don't realize the benefits of multiple monitors." My point still stands that we multi monitor users are few and far between.
As for the problem with hot corners and multi monitor setups, just don't bother with them. Use the shortcuts. Even if you use single monitor only, its a much better way of doing things if you don't have touch. WinKey brings up StartScreen/Search, WinKey+C brings up charms. |
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2012-08-19, 15:49 | Link #254 | |
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Otherwise, you can use the Windows key and the Left/Right arrow keys to snap an active window to the left/right of the screen as well as the Windows key and the Up/Down arrow keys to maximize/restore an active window. |
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2012-08-19, 16:02 | Link #255 |
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Here's an image I found: Keyboard shortcuts for Windows 8
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2012-08-20, 12:47 | Link #256 | |
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2012-08-21, 10:45 | Link #257 | |
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Registration is officially open for the $14.99 (U.S.) Windows Upgrade Offer.
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2012-08-24, 11:33 | Link #258 | |
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Windows 8 Tells Microsoft About Everything You Install, Not Very Securely
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As a Linux user, nearly all my applications come from repositories which could, in theory, be monitored to compile a list of all applications downloaded to my IP address. However there are literally hundreds of repositories across the globe, and I can use any one that I choose. In the case of Windows 8 there's only one registry located in Redmond, Washington, and thus under the jurisdiction of the Department of Homeland Security.
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2012-08-24, 12:54 | Link #259 | ||
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2012-08-24, 13:02 | Link #260 |
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Can I ask? Is spreading FUD a bannable offense? also, I've used Linux myself and I like it, but I'm not going to act superior in an obvious windows thread like I had some kind of moral high ground.
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