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You're trying to tell me that they don't suit this series? Besides, if anything, Vivio's abilities are more suited to being a scholar like Yuuno, not a front-line fighter like Nanoha or Fate are.
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2011-02-15, 13:36 | Link #322 |
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You can be a martial artist and still have your beams and explosions, just remeber Street Fighter xD. Gosh, being MAGICAL martial artist this will be even more easy, it's just matter of time before Vivio starts to launch hadokens left and right, she even has her own version of the Kame-Hame-Ha in her fist-powered Divine Buster xD.
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2011-02-15, 13:41 | Link #323 |
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I was referring to hand to hand combat. Close combat weapons are fine. Especially when done in an interesting way, like jet hammers.
And Vivio is a clone of the legendary fighter. The most legendary fighter in the whole series actually. She's just not suited for front attacker position. |
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And Vivio, in StrikerS, was shown to be using unarmed combat. Just like Zafira and Arf in A's did.
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2011-02-15, 13:45 | Link #325 |
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Just as a side note from a realistic angle: Ignoring one's hand-to-hand melee potential is just bad form. Ideally, a well-rounded fighting would work on both short and long range attack and defense techniques. As Hayate shows, if you have no melee potential, then you're extremely vulnerable. And having hand-to-hand techniques is great for when you run low on magic; you can fall back to using plain old punches and kicks. Even punches and kicks themselves might be a way to ration out your magic to outlast your opponent.
It should be noted that Vivio has a number of spells in addition to her Strike Arts. She picked up quite a few from watching Nanoha and Fate, such as Sacred Cluster, Divine Buster, Binds, etc. |
2011-02-15, 14:02 | Link #327 |
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It's true that having some close combat knowledge can be useful to mages, but mind that the time you spend training martial arts and your body can be used to learn new spells, master new summons, strengthen your defenses or create golems/defense programs/whatever Precia summoned.
Traditional mages usually ignore close combat completely. |
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2011-02-15, 14:12 | Link #330 | |
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Hayate can't even beat Caro, in StrikerS, in one-on-one combat. She said it herself. And, this is Nanoha, all the fights ARE close combat. Look at EVERY SINGLE FIGHT IN THE SERIES! They all are close range combat. Nanoha is the only one who does beam-spam. Most everyone gets up close and personal. S1: Nanoha vs Fate, all close combat unless a Divine Buster or Thunder Smasher was used. A's: Belkan Knights SPECIALIZE in close-combat. StrikerS: Teana develops a knife on her own for fighting in close combat if she has to, later revealed to be useless since Cross Mirage has its OWN knife mode. Nanoha fought Vivio in close combat. Fate fought against Tre and Sette in confined space. Erio and Subaru are both close-combat fighters. Force: Hayate's the only one who was going for fighting from a distance and she got stabbied for her troubles.
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2011-02-15, 14:22 | Link #332 | |
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Sounds close range to me. Season 1: Tried to bash Fate over the head with RH. Also tried to block Bardiche's scythe with RH, not very well, mind you, but tried. Season 2: Graf Eisen befriended RH and she tried to block it. Excellion Mode also sent her straight at Reinforce, who got up close and personal and Nanoha had to fight at that range. StrikerS: Fight against Vivio anyone? ViVid: Einhart got up close and forced her to fight. So, yes, Nanoha does go up close range combat if she has to.
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2011-02-15, 14:55 | Link #333 | |
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2011-02-15, 15:11 | Link #334 | |
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Also all this fuss about her being "unsuited" for close combat is just an informed flaw for now. Even if she got beaten, Vivio has done very well on all her on-screen fights, i mean, for someone supossedly unsuiteds she really fights quite well. Probably Nove thinks the same.
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2011-02-15, 15:56 | Link #340 |
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If turns out the Huck's regeneration works like Claire Bennet from HEROES maybe
*imagines Sylar hunting down the Huckebein xDU* But otherwise it will be very difficult, blades do nothing against these guys, much less bare-fisted punches.
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