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kenjiharima · 2013-01-22, 00:03

^because he wanted a younger audience so he made Raiden, but it didn't appeal to the people and they wanted Solid Snake. Kojima learned this lesson.

One reason why Raiden was so butchered in MGS3 and made into a comic character.

Kyero Fox · 2013-01-22, 00:38

But look at him now!

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2013-01-22, 00:49

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Originally Posted by kenjiharima

^because he wanted a younger audience so he made Raiden, but it didn't appeal to the people and they wanted Solid Snake. Kojima learned this lesson.

One reason why Raiden was so butchered in MGS3 and made into a comic character.

As I say, the main issue is that he didn't tell people what he was doing until they already bought the game.

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

But look at him now!

MGS:R is exactly as advertised. The problem with MGS2 was never about Raiden; the problem was trying to sell something under false pretences.

The thing is, MGS2 as a story only makes sense if the player actually expected to play as Snake. So Kojima HAS to deceive his own customers to make his point. But you really can't treat your paying customers like a social experiment like that. He overstep his bounds and didn't realise that he insulted people.

kenjiharima · 2013-01-22, 01:10

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

As I say, the main issue is that he didn't tell people what he was doing until they already bought the game.

He wanted it to be a surprise, but instead it backfired because people wanted to play as Solid Snake.

Which he learned from MGS2 to not keep people in the dark anymore if there are new characters.

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Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

But look at him now!

Now a Cyborg Ninja with high heels.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-22, 02:30

You know, since we changed Devil May Cry 5 to DmC, maybe we should do the same for Rising

?

kenjiharima · 2013-01-22, 03:04

Let's change Mario as well to this http://sadpanda.us/images/1364168-S16XZ3T.jpg

Either way I'm very glad this game brought something new to the table slicing almost anything in the way you want.

Also NT kissing Kamiya's butt. Didn't they know that kamiya is not involved with MGR? lol makes them laughable.

http://www.vg247.com/2011/12/12/kami...l-gear-rising/

then they tweet this

http://sadpanda.us/images/1361875-NC78O9H.jpg

Also more gaming journalism

http://www.oxm.co.uk/48910/previews/...came-a-badass/

Mad Pierrot · 2013-01-22, 09:44

NT and Kamiya sitting on a tree!

Tong · 2013-01-22, 17:50

Let's all download the Demo and try!

Btw, whens PC demo?

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-23, 08:04

@#$%!

....I don't think I'm getting the demo this week for my region... Reason being that the Dead Space 3 demo has only just arrived on my PSN...

defki · 2013-01-23, 10:02

Create an US PSN account and download the demo there.

Kaihan · 2013-01-23, 10:06

UK also got it as well, its a 3.43 GB download btw.

Tong · 2013-01-23, 11:04

Mine's 1.8GB (360)

Anyways, I liked this hack n slash... very technical and at the same time beautiful;
Only thing that annoyed me was the camera >_>

defki · 2013-01-23, 11:23

The PS3 demo is 3.4 GB. Less compression for movies or something.

Yeah the camera is a little bit annoying. But this game is so awesome.

Parrying attacks and slicing things makes so much fun. And the music when fighting against the Blade Wolf is just badass.

Duo Maxwell · 2013-01-23, 11:59

It's fantastic. I just wish they include Hard difficulty in the demo, as normal is quite easy even for the first timer as me. I've heard some people complain about the control, but I think they are quite easy to learn and Blade Mode surprisingly not hard to utilize.

I really love the boss BGM.

Kanon · 2013-01-23, 12:17

The parry button being the same as the attack button is a bit of an odd choice, and will take me some time to get used to. Bayonetta's gameplay was more intuitive. Got my ass kicked by the boss once because of that.

Kyral · 2013-01-23, 12:29

Oh, it's not on the German x-box marketplace, what a surprise. *sarcasm*

Well the Dead Space 3 demo is. So... if it's not because of the 18+ USK seal, then what's the hold up? *grmbls*

Mad Pierrot · 2013-01-23, 12:33

I wonder how many difficulties will they include. The PS2 Metal Gear games had several difficulty levels

Very Easy - Easy- Normal- Hard- Extreme- European Extreme

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-01-23, 16:12

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

I wonder how many difficulties will they include. The PS2 Metal Gear games had several difficulty levels

Very Easy - Easy- Normal- Hard- Extreme- European Extreme

Four difficulties:

Easy
Normal
Hard
Revengeance

Kyero Fox · 2013-01-23, 17:08

Should be

Casual
Lightning
Revenge
Vengence

and a super hard mode

Revengence

kenjiharima · 2013-01-23, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Kaihan

UK also got it as well, its a 3.43 GB download btw.

3.43 GB?! Iam also glad I got the Zone of Enders HD collection. Didn't need to DL that much.

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kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	^because he wanted a younger audience so he made Raiden, but it didn't appeal to the people and they wanted Solid Snake. Kojima learned this lesson. One reason why Raiden was so butchered in MGS3 and made into a comic character. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

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Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	But look at him now! __________________

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Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	You know, since we changed Devil May Cry 5 to DmC, maybe we should do the same for Rising ? __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

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kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Let's change Mario as well to this http://sadpanda.us/images/1364168-S16XZ3T.jpg Either way I'm very glad this game brought something new to the table slicing almost anything in the way you want. Also NT kissing Kamiya's butt. Didn't they know that kamiya is not involved with MGR? lol makes them laughable. http://www.vg247.com/2011/12/12/kami...l-gear-rising/ then they tweet this http://sadpanda.us/images/1361875-NC78O9H.jpg Also more gaming journalism http://www.oxm.co.uk/48910/previews/...came-a-badass/ __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2013-01-22, 17:50	Link #408
Tong Many RPGs, Little Time Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BR Age: 32	Let's all download the Demo and try! Btw, whens PC demo? __________________

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Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	NT and Kamiya sitting on a tree!

2013-01-23, 08:04	Link #409
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	*@#$%!* ....I don't think I'm getting the demo this week for my region... Reason being that the Dead Space 3 demo has only just arrived on my PSN... __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2013-01-23, 10:02	Link #410
defki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Create an US PSN account and download the demo there.

2013-01-23, 11:04	Link #412
Tong Many RPGs, Little Time Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BR Age: 32	Mine's 1.8GB (360) Anyways, I liked this hack n slash... very technical and at the same time beautiful; Only thing that annoyed me was the camera >_> __________________

2013-01-23, 11:23	Link #413
defki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	The PS3 demo is 3.4 GB. Less compression for movies or something. Yeah the camera is a little bit annoying. But this game is so awesome. Parrying attacks and slicing things makes so much fun. And the music when fighting against the Blade Wolf is just badass. Last edited by defki; 2013-01-23 at 11:36.

2013-01-23, 11:59	Link #414
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	It's fantastic. I just wish they include Hard difficulty in the demo, as normal is quite easy even for the first timer as me. I've heard some people complain about the control, but I think they are quite easy to learn and Blade Mode surprisingly not hard to utilize. I really love the boss BGM. __________________

2013-01-23, 12:17	Link #415
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	The parry button being the same as the attack button is a bit of an odd choice, and will take me some time to get used to. Bayonetta's gameplay was more intuitive. Got my ass kicked by the boss once because of that. __________________

2013-01-23, 12:29	Link #416
Kyral OC Belka Scriptor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 40	Oh, it's not on the German x-box marketplace, what a surprise. sarcasm Well the Dead Space 3 demo is. So... if it's not because of the 18+ USK seal, then what's the hold up? grmbls __________________

2013-01-23, 12:33	Link #417
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	I wonder how many difficulties will they include. The PS2 Metal Gear games had several difficulty levels Very Easy - Easy- Normal- Hard- Extreme- European Extreme

2013-01-23, 17:08	Link #419
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	Should be Casual Lightning Revenge Vengence and a super hard mode Revengence __________________