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Irenesharda · 2013-06-15, 21:30

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Originally Posted by Key Board

my theory

normal humans (both male and females included) -> food -> biting urges
female vampire -> mating partner -> sexual urges
male vampire -> rival? -> murderous impulse?

Saki will have to warn Akira as to what she could potentially get into when becoming a female Magius. If any of the guys come towards you with fangs and red eyes...throw a human at 'em and run!

zztop · 2013-06-23, 03:49

I wonder if we'll get any more hints re. Haruto's immediate family in the final episode, given how several eps ago Kibukawa alluded to a 'Dr. Tokishima' responsible for developing the Valvraves.
I'm guessing his father, mother, or a relative.

ademolix · 2013-06-23, 04:08

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Originally Posted by zztop

I wonder if we'll get any more hints re. Haruto's immediate family in the final episode, given how several eps ago Kibukawa alluded to a 'Dr. Tokishima' responsible for developing the Valvraves.
I'm guessing his father, mother, or a relative.

I don't recall that scene which episode was it?

NeutralZero · 2013-06-23, 04:23

ep 4 or 5...
if it really is his father responsible forthe valvrave then its most likely for him to appear in the second season to re/build the two additional Valvrave... he might even do something to Haruto's condition... but less likely to the final ep...
In any case
it was mentioned in 11 that both Saki and Haruto also became ministers, was it mentioned in any other media format their possition?

ademolix · 2013-06-23, 04:26

Nope the ep only stated that they were ministers but not their position

KleenexGhost · 2013-06-24, 06:11

I wanna say Haruto would probably be Minster of Defense, but that seems like a job that would be better suited for L-Elf. Maybe Haruto would just be Strike Team leader?

~BC~ · 2013-06-24, 07:40

Minister of Defense sounds about right, actually. Remember L-Elf is only a refugee so he'd need Haruto to hold the position in his stead.

Cosmic Eagle · 2013-06-24, 10:04

Lol, imagine if Saki turns out to be Propaganda Minister

DevilHighDxD · 2013-06-24, 10:16

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Lol, imagine if Saki turns out to be Propaganda Minister

Or the Minister of entertainment/Pop-culture.

KleenexGhost · 2013-06-24, 11:14

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Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

Or the Minister of entertainment/Pop-culture.

Lol The UK actually does have a Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. Saki might not give a damn about sports but the first two would be in her field.

Kurohane · 2013-09-23, 19:22

I want to put out a theory of why only Haruto has these "attacks". Remember at the end of episode one, he was the only Kamitsuki to "die". This state triggered the very first "attack" in the entire show. Once he bit L-elf, Haruto's blood cells gained a blue hue with the mark of the magius. Maybe the injection is just the first step, and in order to become a true magius, you have to die once. He could have been just like the other four if L-elf didn't "kill" him.

Frontier · 2013-09-23, 22:34

I think it has more to do with just having a true RAVE Engine with an entity, instead of the Mirror Rave's that the other pilots have.

It's probably because he has one, and Pino, that Haruto has to replenish his supply of Rune, which is the cause of his "attacks." I'd even go as far to say that he's the only proper Magius out of all the pilots.

Kurohane · 2013-09-23, 23:00

We just know that only Hito has an AI. The speculation that the engine is an original is just an assumption. Ig your going by the fact the engine glows, Akira's engine glowed too when she found her Valvrave. Unit II had the same engine as every Valvrave; Cain just uploaded an AI into it. Also, Haruto couldn't do the harakiri until after dying first. When Hito first activated and attacked the surrounding Dorssian units (so well in fact that I don't believe Haruto was moving it), it stopped once the thermal reaction exceeded it's limit. The reason Haruto said the Valvrave stopped once reaching 100 was because he witnessed it beforehand and there was no change to 666 afterwards.

It's not unreasonable to think there is a process in order to become a true magius. Haruto just doesn't know the steps.

DevilHighDxD · 2013-09-23, 23:08

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Originally Posted by Kurohane

We just know that only Hito has an AI. The speculation that the engine is an original is just an assumption. It your going by the fact the engine glows, Akira's engine glowed too when she found her Valvrave. Unit II had the same engine as every Valvrave; Cain just uploaded an AI into it. Also, Haruto couldn't do the harakiri until after dying first. When Hito first activated and attacked the surrounding Dorssian units (so well in fact that I don't believe Haruto was moving it), it stopped once the thermal reaction exceeded it's limits. The reason Haruto said the Valvrave stopped once reaching 100 was because he witnessed it before hand and there was no change to 666 afterwards. It's not unreasonable to think there is a process in order to become a true magius. Haruto just doesn't know the steps.

Actually it was revealed quite awhile already that VVV-01's engine and VVV-02's are original, rest are copied.

Kurohane · 2013-09-23, 23:11

In what source? The threads I looked at never mentioned this.

DevilHighDxD · 2013-09-23, 23:26

^ Valvrave-04 Mirror RAVE and so is Valvrave-03 and Valvrave-05

^ Valvrave-01 is just RAVE

Info on Valvrave-02 was reveal on the novel, Kakumeiki Valvrave Undertaker.

Kurohane · 2013-09-23, 23:45

Alright, thanks for telling me DevilHigh. Still, it asks the question how Jior was able to reverse engineer this thing, how did they get an original let alone two in the first place (cause you know they didn't make it), why Unit 1 was on that platform in the beginning and not the last one built, and why an original engine Valvrave was basically decommissioned, and put in storage.

MK-95- · 2013-09-24, 10:49

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Originally Posted by Kurohane

Alright, thanks for telling me DevilHigh. Still, it asks the question how Jior was able to reverse engineer this thing, how did they get an original let alone two in the first place (cause you know they didn't make it), why Unit 1 was on that platform in the beginning and not the last one built, and why an original engine Valvrave was basically decommissioned, and put in storage.

I think they decommissioned VVV II because it was too powerful or something along those lines. VVV II's engine was designed to surpass VVV I's. So apparently they really outdid themselves, because they shut down the project before completion.

They didn't create the technology, they simply copied & reapplied what they learned. That's all there is to it.

For VVV III-VI, they simply used the same data that was used for VVV I's engine but placed limiters on them for who knows what reason.

Kurohane · 2013-09-24, 13:50

That's where the AI comes in right? How many latent abilities are released when a Valvrave has an AI like Pino or Ploo, or rather what purpose does the AI serve in general? From what we know, JIOR only had Pino in VVV Hito; Cain had to upload Ploo into Valvrave II. VVV II could have been put in storage because it actually required an AI to be present, without it, no one could get it to work. Also, why was Hito the one on that platform in the beginning. Usually, you would have the last one being built up there for maintenance, which I guess would be Akira's. Also, if limiters were used, they must have put one on Hito as well, because I see no reason why it has to go to 100 first then to 666.

KleenexGhost · 2013-09-25, 14:20

So when do you think we'll find out more about Haruto's parents?

Kibukawa has said that Dr. Tokishima had a part in creating the Valvraves. How do you guys think this revelation will affect Haruto?

2013-06-24, 06:11	Link #26
KleenexGhost Riding the Ange Express Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sunriseland	I wanna say Haruto would probably be Minster of Defense, but that seems like a job that would be better suited for L-Elf. Maybe Haruto would just be Strike Team leader? __________________ "You know what these are, Mom? They're gazebos! They're BULLSH*T!" - Eddie Kaspbrak

2013-06-24, 10:04	Link #28
Cosmic Eagle 今宵の虎徹は血に飢えている Join Date: Jan 2009	Lol, imagine if Saki turns out to be Propaganda Minister __________________

2013-09-23, 19:22	Link #31
Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	I want to put out a theory of why only Haruto has these "attacks". Remember at the end of episode one, he was the only Kamitsuki to "die". This state triggered the very first "attack" in the entire show. Once he bit L-elf, Haruto's blood cells gained a blue hue with the mark of the magius. Maybe the injection is just the first step, and in order to become a true magius, you have to die once. He could have been just like the other four if L-elf didn't "kill" him. __________________

2013-09-23, 23:00	Link #33
Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	We just know that only Hito has an AI. The speculation that the engine is an original is just an assumption. Ig your going by the fact the engine glows, Akira's engine glowed too when she found her Valvrave. Unit II had the same engine as every Valvrave; Cain just uploaded an AI into it. Also, Haruto couldn't do the harakiri until after dying first. When Hito first activated and attacked the surrounding Dorssian units (so well in fact that I don't believe Haruto was moving it), it stopped once the thermal reaction exceeded it's limit. The reason Haruto said the Valvrave stopped once reaching 100 was because he witnessed it beforehand and there was no change to 666 afterwards. It's not unreasonable to think there is a process in order to become a true magius. Haruto just doesn't know the steps. __________________

2013-09-23, 23:11	Link #35
Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	In what source? The threads I looked at never mentioned this. __________________

2013-06-23, 03:49	Link #22
zztop Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013	I wonder if we'll get any more hints re. Haruto's immediate family in the final episode, given how several eps ago Kibukawa alluded to a 'Dr. Tokishima' responsible for developing the Valvraves. I'm guessing his father, mother, or a relative.

2013-06-23, 04:23	Link #24
NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	ep 4 or 5... if it really is his father responsible forthe valvrave then its most likely for him to appear in the second season to re/build the two additional Valvrave... he might even do something to Haruto's condition... but less likely to the final ep... In any case it was mentioned in 11 that both Saki and Haruto also became ministers, was it mentioned in any other media format their possition?

2013-06-23, 04:26	Link #25
ademolix Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012	Nope the ep only stated that they were ministers but not their position

2013-06-24, 07:40	Link #27
~BC~ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Minister of Defense sounds about right, actually. Remember L-Elf is only a refugee so he'd need Haruto to hold the position in his stead.

2013-09-23, 22:34	Link #32
Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	I think it has more to do with just having a true RAVE Engine with an entity, instead of the Mirror Rave's that the other pilots have. It's probably because he has one, and Pino, that Haruto has to replenish his supply of Rune, which is the cause of his "attacks." I'd even go as far to say that he's the only proper Magius out of all the pilots.

2013-09-23, 23:26	Link #36
DevilHighDxD Zero Two Best waifu 2018 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Living the NEET dream Age: 27	^ Valvrave-04 Mirror RAVE and so is Valvrave-03 and Valvrave-05 ^ Valvrave-01 is just RAVE Info on Valvrave-02 was reveal on the novel, Kakumeiki Valvrave Undertaker. __________________

2013-09-23, 23:45	Link #37
Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	Alright, thanks for telling me DevilHigh. Still, it asks the question how Jior was able to reverse engineer this thing, how did they get an original let alone two in the first place (cause you know they didn't make it), why Unit 1 was on that platform in the beginning and not the last one built, and why an original engine Valvrave was basically decommissioned, and put in storage. __________________

2013-09-24, 13:50	Link #39
Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	That's where the AI comes in right? How many latent abilities are released when a Valvrave has an AI like Pino or Ploo, or rather what purpose does the AI serve in general? From what we know, JIOR only had Pino in VVV Hito; Cain had to upload Ploo into Valvrave II. VVV II could have been put in storage because it actually required an AI to be present, without it, no one could get it to work. Also, why was Hito the one on that platform in the beginning. Usually, you would have the last one being built up there for maintenance, which I guess would be Akira's. Also, if limiters were used, they must have put one on Hito as well, because I see no reason why it has to go to 100 first then to 666. __________________

2013-09-25, 14:20	Link #40
KleenexGhost Riding the Ange Express Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sunriseland	So when do you think we'll find out more about Haruto's parents? Kibukawa has said that Dr. Tokishima had a part in creating the Valvraves. How do you guys think this revelation will affect Haruto? __________________ "You know what these are, Mom? They're gazebos! They're BULLSH*T!" - Eddie Kaspbrak